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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKate Middleton appears to pull back (recoil) from Jamaican official
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Prince William and Kate Middletons tour of the Caribbean was supposed to be a celebration of Queen Elizabeths Platinum Jubilee, but its been fraught with nothing but controversy from the start. With the critics pointing out the royals tone-deaf approach to Britains history of colonialism, the latest video clip with the Duchess of Cambridge didnt do anything to help that narrative.
Kate is finding herself under the social-media microscope after being caught recoiling away from Jamaicas Minister of Culture, Gender, Entertainment & Sport, Olivia Grange, on Tuesday. (See the video HERE.) The Jamaican official is seen trying to gently reach for the royals hand to guide her over to speak with her. The Duchess of Cambridge keeps stepping further and further back, which makes it an awkward and uncomfortable situation to watch. The account that posted the clip reminded their followers about Prince Williams famous quote after Prince Harry and Meghan Markle interview with Oprah Winfrey, We are very much not a racist family.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/lifestyle-buzz/kate-middleton-is-in-hot-water-over-this-clip-of-her-appearing-to-pull-back-from-a-jamaican-official/ar-AAVpxyA
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Why is the Jamaican gentlemen next to her (closest to us in foreground) also stepping backwards as the clip begins?
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Living in a mean period when hateful behaviors are epidemic and infectious doesn't make it okay.
Thtwudbeme
(7,737 posts)to be that close to a stranger?
I am; I am still masking.
The Queen recently had Covid.
IOW, I don't think this proves racism- maybe it does, but I would have to see more evidence than a two second phone clip.
Arkansas Granny
(31,512 posts)The only close physical contact I have these days is among family and friends who I know to be fully vaxxed and boosted. I maintain social distancing with anyone else.
yardwork
(61,585 posts)First, there's no context for the clip. The whole scene looks chaotic and yes, Kate looks uncomfortable - but it's not clear why. Two years of Covid? Discomfort with being in a crowd?
The trip was a bad idea and it's not going well. This clip is an example of the bad optics of the entire thing - but to me it doesn't prove anything in particular about anyone in it.
I couldn't even imagine shaking hands w anyone I didn't reside with at the moment. I'm still masking for goodness sakes!
obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)And, I'm not any kind of fan of her. She isn't "recoiling," she just doesn't want to be touched. I don't like people I don't know touching me or grabbing my hand, either, and just because she is a Royal doesn't mean she has to allow it.
I have no idea if Kate Middleton is racist or not -- she probably is, many white people are -- but this doesn't show it.
And, you may not have heard about it, but there's this thing called Covid, and some of us actually think it can still kill you and still wear masks.
madaboutharry
(40,199 posts)I think this criticism is a real stretch.
It seems to me that over the years that Kate has turned into a real snob, but I am not seeing her "recoiling" from the official. She just looks uncertain.
IzzaNuDay
(362 posts)IIRC, commoners are not supposed to touch royalty. Although this was an outdoor event, we are still in a pandemic.
Which leaves me to wonder: why are these folks traveling in the first place?
wnylib
(21,417 posts)Kate did not grow up as a royal. She has no doubt been thoroughly schooled on protocol since her engagement to William.
Add the covid pandemic isolation and distancing to that.
That's not to say that the British royals are not racist, just that this clip does not look like an example of it.
Lovie777
(12,222 posts)news slow day.
lapucelle
(18,229 posts)and then were instructed to step forward. Their actions mirror each others.
questionseverything
(9,646 posts)obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)I'm not a fan at all of Middleton, or colonialism, but some people are stretching stuff.
Lovely pic, thanks for posting!
JI7
(89,244 posts)Demovictory9
(32,443 posts)Celerity
(43,240 posts)lapucelle
(18,229 posts)Celerity
(43,240 posts)What exactly is your point?
It was posted as an example of racist bullshit from certain corners of the Royal defenders back in the UK.
lapucelle
(18,229 posts)involving the Jamaican cultural minister. It's about something else entirely.
I guess I'm just not invested enough in the whole Team Meghan - Team Kate rivalry to feel impelled to counter one bullshit story with different a "racist bullshit" story culled from a right wing website.
Celerity
(43,240 posts)Same for the Swedish Monarchy.
The entire concept of nobility/royalty is antithetical to my core inner philosophy.
I am constantly amazed at the level of royal defending and even adoration that I see so many US-dwelling Americans exhibit.
Pretty ironic for a nation that fought the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812 to get out from under the Royal whip hand.
lapucelle
(18,229 posts)Celerity
(43,240 posts)About the Royal Family
https://www.royal.uk/role-royal-family
Members of the Royal Family support The Queen in her many State and national duties, as well as carrying out important work in the areas of public and charitable service, and helping to strengthen national unity and stability.
The role of the Monarchy
https://www.royal.uk/role-monarchy
Monarchy is the oldest form of government in the United Kingdom.
In a monarchy, a king or queen is Head of State. The British Monarchy is known as a constitutional monarchy. This means that, while The Sovereign is Head of State, the ability to make and pass legislation resides with an elected Parliament.
lapucelle
(18,229 posts)Royal Family is a proper noun, while Royal whip hand is not.
The BBC doesn't capitalize monarchy (except in a story title or as the first word in a sentence), and the BBC is British.
Celerity
(43,240 posts)Done here.
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Emrys
(7,227 posts)and a pitiful example of the worst sort of muckraking opportunist tabloid hack. If you were laying bets on which of that breed were going to go with this line, Wootton would be at the head of the pack. Here's an example of his past output:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Wootton
His abilities can be gauged by the fact that he's progressed from holding down jobs at The News of the World (a scandal-riden scandal sheet, forced to cease publication after it was revealed to have hacked celebrities' phone numbers), the Sun and the Mail (not really any better, despite its generous photo budgets and major online presence making it popular among some DUers) to clinging on at MailOnline - hence his stream of rabid clickbait articles pandering to the worst of human nature - and joining the sinking ship that is the far-right GB News.
LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)I'm surprised those who are racists against Meghan aren't blaming her for the war putin started against Ukraine. As you rightfully point out, a lot of black woman are surely targeted and blamed for everything else.
Look at how the racist reich-winged males on the Senate are going after KBJ. Look at how that old, racist, dumb wench Blackburn aka Home Economics KAREN, went after KBJ.
JI7
(89,244 posts)hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)These types of videos give fake news credence. Its a couple of seconds in time trying to ruin a famous person.
I need more than that to believe someone is racist.
bamagal62
(3,246 posts)But, I know my daughter has PTSD from being a toddler living in China. She has porcelain skin and was constantly being touched by strangers that were in awe of her skin. I constant had to politely ask people not to touch her. She cant stand for anyone to invade her personal space after that. Its an automatic reaction. You just cant judge people by a short clip.
Demovictory9
(32,443 posts)No one has ever asked... they just go for it.
bamagal62
(3,246 posts)mahina
(17,637 posts)As others have said, Im not saying she isnt racist but come on.
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)There are many explanations for Kate, but overall I believe their reception has been generally cool. Colonialism has to end.
jcgoldie
(11,623 posts)Looks like bunch of nothing to me.
JoanofArgh
(14,971 posts)Vinca
(50,248 posts)demmiblue
(36,833 posts)It just looks like she is trying to figure out where she is supposed to stand.
I can't believe that a whole "news" article is dedicated to some dumbass reaction from a random Twitter account. Wait, yes I can.
LexVegas
(6,041 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)ananda
(28,854 posts)I've always thought they were racist.
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)That makes you racist?????
Could be any number of reasons to pull back from someone.
obamanut2012
(26,049 posts)malaise
(268,844 posts)scumbag.
That is all Fuck the royals and fuck Babsie!
dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)https://www.glamour.com/story/why-kate-middleton-always-carries-a-clutch
It's got nothing to do with race. I would have to imagine there are security concerns, also.