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Former Nixon White House Counsel John Dean is calling on federal prosecutors to take over the halted investigation of Donald Trump from the Manhattan District Attorneys Office after the full text of the lead investigators resignation letter to DA Alvin Bragg was published in The New York Times.
It is now clear that Mark Pomerantz, a senior prosecutor who came out of retirement to lead the prosecution of the former Presidents business dealings, including alleged fraud involving manipulation of the valuations of his properties for tax and credit purposes, resigned in protest.
The letter itself is scathing and makes clear the team that has been investigating Mr. Trump harbors no doubt about whether he committed crimes he did. It also throws into question Braggs claim that the investigation has not been halted and that it is continuing:
You have reached the decision not to go forward with the grand jury presentation and not to seek criminal charges at the present time. The investigation has been suspended indefinitely, Pomerantz states.
John Dean, now a CNN commentator, via Twitter said: The latest Trump travesty is still unfolding. Why or why would any prosecutor give this openly criminal miscreant a pass?
SOURCE: https://www.rawstory.com/john-dean-calls-for-feds-to-take-over-manhattan-das-halted-investigation-and-indict-trump/
spanone
(135,795 posts)malaise
(268,724 posts)RFN!
dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)2naSalit
(86,378 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Scottie Mom
(5,812 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)patphil
(6,150 posts)What did he get in return for halting the investigation?
Marthe48
(16,908 posts)bragg is another person you should investigate. Thank you.
Jetheels
(991 posts)Annual Mar-a-lago vacations
Oligarch yacht privileges
Gets to stay alive.
Who knows really, but somethin sure is awful stinky.
Obvious85
(259 posts)of that I am sure.
llashram
(6,265 posts)will get the shaft, the top level of the criminal enterprises in New York and higher are going to skate free, it seems. No indictments...nothing! So far Trump will skate also it seems. American justice, 2 joints years in prison. High crimes all the way to the White House to the POTUS and 640 million given to his grifting daughter et al? So far nada. I just hope there is a strategy to firmly plant trump and his grifting family BEHIND IRON BARS in a very small prison cell.
Four years of planting hate in his ignorant base of racist, sexist FOOLS! And now decent people are left with his garbage dump stinking to high heaven. I have am a very patient person yet this seems to be going on and on. But what do I know...
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)OnDoutside
(19,948 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_County_District_Attorney
https://www.manhattanda.org/criminal-justice-system/
(The Center Square) Calls are growing louder in New York for Gov. Kathy Hochul to take action against Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg after the newly elected prosecutor announced policies his office will seek prison time only for matters involving significant harm.
.... Under Article XIII, Section 13 of the New York State Constitution, the governor can remove a district attorney who fails to faithfully prosecute someone charged in their jurisdiction. The provision calls on the governor to give notice to the district attorney. It also gives the DA a chance to defend themselves. ......
OnDoutside
(19,948 posts)calimary
(81,139 posts)Urge your governor to step in! She's in a position to do something about this!
DO IT!
gab13by13
(21,264 posts)DanieRains
(4,619 posts)He may have a different perspective.
Grins
(7,199 posts)Poiuyt
(18,118 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,427 posts)quakerboy
(13,917 posts)The last person involved in any way has died of old age, then maybe it could be considered.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,165 posts)ffr
(22,665 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)trump is still fu&*ing us over.
KS Toronado
(17,158 posts)Majority of us are truly disappointed in his decision and believe he needs to be looked into.
Nobody should be above the law.
Carlitos Brigante
(26,497 posts)constitutes valuable evidence. GTFO of here with that. Also, criticism, based on what his own team is saying, does not equal hate. You wanna keep doing this "Washington Generals" routine, which has taken us further down into the authoritarian hole, be my guest. The rest of us have had enough. FFS!
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)guy hired just to look at trump.
If the voters wantt odump him in 2025, fine.
Carlitos Brigante
(26,497 posts)not doing his job? Oh right, because the previous DA was just walking down the street and went:
"Hey you, whatever your name is. You're hired!"
"To do what?"
"To investigate Trump."
"Sure, but don't you want to know if I'm even a prosecutor?...."
I'm sure it went down something like that.
Your constant mealy mouthed fealty to authority (as if theory could never be wrong) gets really old. How is it that it's so terribly difficult to nab the dumbest, biggest mouth criminal in the history of this country? And why is it that lots of people who just happen to look like me, are filling up our jails for lesser crimes, while these dickheads keep walking between the rain drops?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)same responsibilities.
And one of the DA's responsibilities -- as the only elected official in the office -- is to decide if the office should spend untold resources when they can't find a witness who is willing to testify that trump was directly involved in falsifying records.
Your "constant" need for retribution is holding us back from much more important things. It's not going to change a damn thing to indict trump.
I do agree that people are being incarcerated for lesser crimes way too much. I suspect Alvin Braggs -- the first POC elected to the DA office in NYC -- will do more about that, than recalling him.
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"A LIFETIME DEMANDING JUSTICE -- Alvin Bragg was overwhelmingly elected Manhattan District Attorney, becoming only the fourth person elected to this office in 80 years. A son of Central Harlem, Alvin has spent the better part of two decades standing up to the powerful and fighting to get justice."
https://www.alvinbragg.com/
Carlitos Brigante
(26,497 posts)available. Nor have I advocated for that anywhere. So stick to handling the words out your mouth and I'll do the same. If asking this man to handle the difficult tasks is too much for him. Maybe he should think about the oath he took.
Second, my calls for law and order aren't doing jack shit to hold anyone back. Since I don't run anything and no ones gives half a fuck about what I have to say. Ironic that you chose those words, even though the one seemingly holding things back is the guy who you seem just so impressed with.
Lastly, I don't know what a link to his site telling me how awesome he is supposed to do. Or the courtroom sketch for that matter. I know what he looks like. As I have access to this thing called the internet, were one can find actual photos.
Sadly, it's people like you who will politely and with civility, just sit there and watch our descent into authoritarianism wondering what happened. Good luck with all that. Either we're a country of law, as people love to self-righteously proclaim. Or we're full of shit.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)d. The more we dwell on him, the more GOPers win.
You can spend the rest of your life bemoaning trump, bashing good Democrats like Bragg and Garland because things don't go your way, whatever. It will accomplish nothing and GOPers end up winning.
Take care.
Carlitos Brigante
(26,497 posts)Whew! Sorry about that I'm
OK, OK I'm good now I promise...... Right, because your knee jerk, milquetoast, naive, wishful thinking need to only "look forward" has really taught those fascist pricks a lesson... I'll ignore the rest of your straw man bullshit, or let's just say "I'll look forward" past it, to say this is about criminals being held accountable. No mater their name, jab, status, connections, yadda, yadda, yadda. This need for accountability applies to the entire criminal enterprise known as the republican party. Your whole "thank you sir! may have another..." attitude (sadly shared by many) is what's gotten us to this point. We fucking told you if the Rumsfelds, Cheneys, Roves of the world were not taken to task. They'd devolve even further and get bolder. Now look what the fuck happened..... pathetic....
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Carlitos Brigante
(26,497 posts)As far as I can tell democracies have courts and laws. You're cool with the wealthy (in this case the fake wealthy) having a different lane. That's on you. Don't expect some of us to whistle pas the graveyard with you. Maybe you prefer the Russian or Turkish system. I hear they're doing great!
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Carlitos Brigante
(26,497 posts)Marius25
(3,213 posts)What makes you think Bragg wasn't bought off?
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)was bought off?
The only thing you have is that Bragg didn't indict trump, but could later, just like Garland and prosecutors across the country.
Not sure that justifies your calling a Democrat a criminal because he didn't do what you want.
I enjoy seeing GOPers eat their own. I don't enjoy it when it's Democrats.
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)Marius25
(3,213 posts)tells me there's something wrong with him.
Most of NYC elected Eric Adams too, and one of his first actions was putting Anti-LGBTQ extremists in his administration.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)see the big picture and is a whiner.
Not sure why Bragg is considered the chump in this, other than we all want trump behind bars and some folks are fine bashing anyone who doesnt throw caution to the wind and indict trump.
MissMillie
(38,533 posts).
KS Toronado
(17,158 posts)SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)Wanna bet?
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Not optimistic they will add anything to their scope.
Plus, the Manhattan investigation is about state violations. I don't think they have jurisdiction.
MadameButterfly
(1,040 posts)because a president can't pardon a state crime.
if NYS doesn't have the nerve to go after Trump, who will? Why can this guy commit crimes constantly and get away with it?
Does Hochul have the strength to step in? i'm convinced Letitia James would if she were governor. Now she's our only hope but a Civil Case won't put him in jail or keep him from running for president.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Me.
(35,454 posts)wnylib
(21,347 posts)was based in NY, but does business out of state.
Doesn't mean the Feds will take it over, but they might be able to if they were inclined.
Joinfortmill
(14,397 posts)SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)DOJ couldn't care less, and will do NOTHING.
For those who say otherwise, don't worry, I can wait. I'd just like to know when you'll admit that NOTHING is going to happen?
We're not the same Party we were back then.
BadgerMom
(2,770 posts)The Republicans are not the party they were then. During Watergate, Republicans could still be embarrassed by their own and fellow Republicans actions. They possessed a moral compass. They knew right from wrong and actually believed they should do the right thing. It seems as though afterwards they spent all their efforts trying to make certain they wouldnt get caught or punished again, not that they wouldnt act criminally again.
jalan48
(13,842 posts)Nixon signed the the bill setting up the EPA.
MyOwnPeace
(16,920 posts)Back during the Watergate hearings and the 'tapes' came out, it was a group of Republicans that went to Nixon and told him to resign or he would be impeached.
Can you imagine ANY Republican having the integrity, guts, balls, courage to do that to TFG - or to take any positive action regarding TFG's obvious crimes?
HA!
Carlitos Brigante
(26,497 posts)good strategy? Nonsense!!!
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)Wild blueberry
(6,617 posts)Appreciate getting to finally read Mr Pomerantz's letter of resignation.
Is DA Bragg a coward? Or being paid off? Something smells real bad.
wnylib
(21,347 posts)Someone has dirt on him or has threatened his family?
Or he ran for office with the intention of dropping the case because .... he has Trump contacts?
Rebl2
(13,471 posts)this happens, but doubt it will.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Trump seems to control all of the prosecutors that try to pursue his criminal actions.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)behind the scenes. I do wonder what financial statements they have and which ones they are looking at. There could be hundreds of them with different "as of" dates. The right is saying he undervalued his assets on FS's. Surely bullshit, but it would be very interesting to me to see accumulated statements. I mean, I could see them being conniving enough to make sure a particular statement on a particular date for a particular loan was closer to reality.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)FakeNoose
(32,599 posts)After Biden wins his 2nd term, and some things get changed or moved around in DoJ. I believe that Merrick Garland wants to do it, but political realities keep hitting him in the face.
GB_RN
(2,338 posts)Statute of limitations on Agent Oranges crimes will have run out before then.
And this is why statute of limitations laws need to be reevaluated. Just because a crime is old doesnt mean someone shouldnt be held accountable for it.
Takket
(21,529 posts)Kick his worthless ass out. Prosecutors that wont prosecute are asking for criminals to permeate their territory.
aggiesal
(8,907 posts)fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)To take over the Manhattan DA investigation.
This would send a clear message to future Trumps
Fiendish Thingy
(15,555 posts)fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)I get it, if it doesn't work that way.
But I'm not sure what Democracy is the reason that Trump isn't indicted.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,555 posts)fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)For instance in August 2021, Biden wrote an executive order, directing the Attorney General to NOT renew contracts with private prisons.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/01/26/executive-order-reforming-our-incarceration-system-to-eliminate-the-use-of-privately-operated-criminal-detention-facilities/
Fiendish Thingy
(15,555 posts)When it comes to law enforcement, theres supposed to be a firewall between the WH/President and the DOJ/AG. They only communicate with each other through their respective legal counsels, and only in a very restricted manner,
He can fire Garland if he is unhappy with his performance, but thats it.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)If that's illegal, it seems like we could have gotten Trump on this.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,555 posts)gab13by13
(21,264 posts)if one of them indicts Trump then Bragg should resign.
Evolve Dammit
(16,702 posts)NBachers
(17,085 posts)Scrivener7
(50,922 posts)Too many i's to dot and t's to cross for the Feds on that one, John!
gab13by13
(21,264 posts)seeing as the ducks are already lined up. The discovery is the one that makes me laugh out loud. DOJ can't indict because it would have to give up discovery that has already been plastered all over the MSM.
Give the case to Mimi or Tish, they have guts.
Scrivener7
(50,922 posts)RANDYWILDMAN
(2,664 posts)at least Dean realized what letting Nixon off created the ability for someone as shitty as Trump to come in and do what he did...
No one is above the law...unless they are a republican president, prove me wrong
PatrickforB
(14,561 posts)clearly NOT acting in the public interest. When I first heard this, the first question the came to my mind is how much money changed hands for this kind of corrupt decision to happen?
Snackshack
(2,541 posts)What a gigantic disappointment garland and the doj is.
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)Is he a confidential informant?
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)Cha
(296,893 posts)do his JOB!
💙💛
BSdetect
(8,995 posts)orangecrush
(19,436 posts)And quickly.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)He has been paid off, threatened or other factors maybe.
I hope they do what Dean suggests, but will whoever runs a federal case be any better?
Blue Owl
(50,291 posts)Jesus fucking Christ....
bucolic_frolic
(43,064 posts)Fear of something. TDFG has the dirt on everyone everywhere??