The Manhattan "investigation". I really, really hate to get involved with speculation but remember..

[TreasonousBastard]

that Ghouliani was the downtown US Justice attorney and then NYC mayor. He is now a somewhat demented Trumpian and one wonders just what connections he still might have in the myriad departments of NY, city or state, that could affect what's going on with the Trumpco investigation.

Remember also that the RE business is worth billions to NYC and has some huge players in it-- most of whom have been playing Trumpian tricks with mortgages and taxes for far longer than he has. They would likely prefer that less attention be paid to the business.

[OLDMDDEM]

1. You could be right on this.

However, they are all a bunch of vultures that would eat each other alive. I'm sure they would love to see TrumpCo. gone.

[Irish_Dem]

2. And isn't it all connected to the NY Mob?

[Woodswalker]

6. Not Really

Back in the day yes. Not much since the big mob smackdowns of the 1980-90s. One thing I still give Rudi credit for

[Irish_Dem]

7. I've read that Trump was involved with the NY mob. Is that not true?

[TreasonousBastard]

20. Of course he was-- just buying cement for a building involves the mob. Construction unions have...

their own ties.

How involved he was is a question. Mobsters may not have been geniuses, but they knew he was a big mouthed asshole.

Roy Cohn was one of his earliest advisors, and taught him a lot of the dirty tricks he used. Roy Cohn also drove Lionel Trains close to bankruptcy, foretelling the Orange Blob's business success.

BTW, I've always enjoyed thinking that Giuliani's mob prosecutions were to get rid of the old-fashioned Italians so the Russians could take over.

[WhiteTara]

10. I believe the mob connection

is Russian.

[Irish_Dem]

11. Yes that is a given.

[uponit7771]

21. +1,

[Miguelito Loveless]

3. I have lost all faith in the US criminal justice system

There are two systems: One for the rich and powerful that seldom prosecutes and when it does, punishments are trivial. The other is for the rest of us, which is vindictive, unmerciful, cruel and arbitrary. If you are non-White then you get the worst of the system at every turn.

[CrispyQ]

9. +1

I'm surprised at the amount of faith so many on DU still have in the system.

[Irish_Dem]

12. Harsh realities are hard to face.

Some need to keep hoping as long as they can.

[Hoyt]

8. Maybe the duly elected Democratic DA knows they don't have the evidence to get trump.

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[Irish_Dem]

13. Trump's life has been one long crime spree. And he is no genius.

And he doesn't listen to advice.

I do not believe there is not one shred of evidence for the many crimes he committed. If that is the case, he is a genius, or there is something very wrong with our laws.

[Hoyt]

14. As far as I'm concerned, he was convicted by the ultimate court-- voters.

[Irish_Dem]

16. That won't deter the next criminal who installs himself into the WH.

[Hoyt]

17. Neither will a loss in court.

[TreasonousBastard]

18. I suspect a large part of the problem (or the whole part of the problem) is simply that we never...

prosecuted a President before and we really don't know how to do it. We have the remedy of impeachment, but that's about it, and it ends up being sidelined by political bullshit, not law.

There should be a fairly obvious way to prosecute a former president, but it doesn't seem to exist. Truth is, we haven't really need one until now.

[Irish_Dem]

19. Many people seem to be afraid to take this step.

It will be painted as political retribution. So the attorneys are paralyzed with fear.

Same thing with Putin. We are afraid to do too much to stop him. Afraid what new hell he will unleash.

So this is what the world has come to.

Bullies/criminals/evil wins the day by scaring everyone into compliance.

[lagomorph777]

15. Seems plausible.

[moondust]

22. Was The Ghoul complicit

in TFG's and other mob crimes back when he was in charge? Passively by looking the other way? Many people are asking.