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(9,777 posts)wnylib
(21,146 posts)underestimated Biden and Zelensky.
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)People already formed their opinions on TFG and it's mostly bad that got him to lose in 2020. Those swing/independent voters aren't going to say "lets give this person a chance" like they would if GoP nominate a new face.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)They keep trying to, and although they keep failing, there are NO CONSEQUENCES OR PUNISHMENTS for them having tried, so you can be 100% certain they'll try again, something different this time.
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)Weakest nominee doesn't mean he has no chance to win. He was close last time so it's very possible he could win in 2024. I am just saying that he is the weakest among the GoP because people already have a strong opinion formed for him. The "lets trying something new" excuse that the swing/independent voters normally use doesn't work with Trump as their nominee while other new faces would.
As far as the rigging, I can't worry about too much about it because there isn't a thing I can do about it personally. I rather stand strong for our nominee and present our side with all the goods we do and worry less about their bad behaviors. I basically expect them to rig the election but we have to overcome it by getting more voters out to vote for democrats.
Justice matters.
(6,874 posts)in bombed maternity and hospitals will not swing them back over, AND with INSURRECTION footage...
Metaphorical
(1,601 posts)I'm coming to see the MAGAt's as almost being an altogether different party. They increasingly distrust the non-MAGAt Republicans as much as they do Democrats, and I think this is going to pose a real problem for the Republicans in November 2022, especially given the split along largely MAGAt lines wrt Putin. You're going to see GOP vs GQP in the primaries, and if the GQP candidate does not win in the primaries, I suspect the MAGAts will stay home in the general election. Similarly, I think the ability of the Republicans to carve off the Independents will face the same conundrum.
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)Though, I've seen similar dynamic before (2016 with Trump winning the nomination) that supposedly principled republicans will not vote for Trump but they all unsurprisingly held their noses and voted for Trump, worked with Trump during the Trump era, etc. I am unfortunately not going to bet that they will stay home. Their hatred of us will be enough to unite them to go vote.
DENVERPOPS
(8,679 posts)be careful what you wish for............
They are going all out this time, and coming at Biden and Dems with every thing they've got, from every direction.
Maybe someone can point out to me all the things the Dems are doing to confront this Red Tsunami..........?????
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)Also part of the "Never Say The Shithead's Name" Club.
PortTack
(32,606 posts)Extremely so. This was the prefect time for President Biden to speak up as NATO allies are very concerned about another dotard in 24.
Ohio Joe
(21,656 posts)FakeNoose
(32,356 posts)Let him try, we'll finish him off for good!
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)You can be sure that third party will draw a lot from GoP and almost none from our side giving 2024 a guaranteed win for us.
But I am still skeptical about GoP nominating anyone but TFG at this point.
KS Toronado
(16,911 posts)know IQ4.5 is a loser but don't have the balls to kick him to the curb. They're probably waiting on the
Jan 6th Committee to indict him so they can say "Oh no, we had no idea"
wnylib
(21,146 posts)is that good for us? It would make him the nominee again.
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)I prefer not to have to endure that again because I know how stupid some Americans can be. So I would much rather someone else getting the republican nomination. But then, in today's GoP, they are all just as bad as TFG anyways.
wnylib
(21,146 posts)MAGAts and establishment Rs, with each putting up their own candidate.
Claustrum
(4,845 posts)But I don't see where the "establishments" are in the current GoP. They are mostly out of power or left the party. The so-called moderate/establishments candidates (Liz Channey, Adam Kinssinger) seems to hold no say or power within the current GoP and have no chance of winning the nomination or even becoming a remote threat to TFG at this point.
Celerity
(42,666 posts)Many of those other Senators too. They are just gutless ATM, but if they think they can still win AND also pull a Caesar, they will do it in a heartbeat. The ones I am talking about are pure snakes. The QMAGAt ones like Cruz, Hawley, etc (including some new ones from 2022, dog forbid) are the ultra koolaid drinkers who just might stay and fight so hard they may go down with the SS Shithole into its orange maelstrom.
DENVERPOPS
(8,679 posts)DeSantis, who in many ways is just as despicable and even more treacherous............
Maeve
(42,224 posts)ffr
(22,649 posts)He speaks softly and carries a very big stick.
DarthDem
(5,253 posts)What a pitch-perfect answer. Just amazing. He was self-deprecating, respectful to the questioner, confidence-inspiring, and totally comprehensive. Oh, yes, and he tossed in a bit of shade at the end. Just a bit.
Bravo, Mr. President. Bravo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
budkin
(6,691 posts)Another YUGE record will be set by Donald.
Native
(5,935 posts)BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)We have a President back in the White House!
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,483 posts)......... .............
Damn shame too few Americans will hear it and listen.......
Warpy
(110,913 posts)when he told the right wing reporter she was just playing games with her silly lie disguised as a question he'd already answered.
It's not that he refuses to suffer fools gladly, he refuses to suffer them at all.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)swag
(26,480 posts)live love laugh
(13,009 posts)Blue Owl
(49,934 posts)JohnnyRingo
(18,581 posts)Why would this time be any different?