Biden Says to Expect 'Real' Food Shortages Due to Ukraine War

[WarGamer]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/biden-says-expect-real-food-175308088.html

Fucking wonderful.

9-11

Wars.

Beheading videos

COVID

Insurrection.

Then inflation and gas prices...

Now food shortages.

The 21st Century sucks.

Thanks Vlad!


"It’s going to be real,” Biden said at a news conference in Brussels. “The price of the sanctions is not just imposed upon Russia. It’s imposed upon an awful lot of countries as well, including European countries and our country as well.”

Ukraine and Russia are both major producers of wheat, in particular, and Kyiv’s government has already warned that the country’s planting and harvest have been severely disrupted by the war.

[harumph]

1. You seem surprised.

I don't think food shortages will be great in the US.
Europe will undoubtedly suffer more. Yes it sucks - but
Putin started this shit show.

[WarGamer]

2. Not surprised. Was more of a sarcastic "wonderful"

[getagrip_already]

11. We do import a lot of food.....

And export a lot as well.

Prices will certainly go up as global buyers compete for available harvests. No doubt us producers will sell to the highest bidders which may be foreign markets.

We will have food, but prices will be high and selection low. The poor will really suffer since food banks will get far less.

Fertilizer prices are already way up. Fuel is way up. That alone will drive prices up.

[bucolic_frolic]

3. Starve a Republican

It ain't all bad.

[ck4829]

4. We may need to tighten our belts and billionaires will definitely need to cut back on the opulence

[WarGamer]

7. The wealthy never cut back on anything.

Usually they make MORE money when the common man suffers.

[Kaleva]

5. Climate change is going to make you forget all that

[WarGamer]

6. Yeah but CC is HERE and there's nothing man can do about it.

[CousinIT]

14. There is a LOT man/governments can do about it and should have already done. Problem is...

...they're owned and controlled by the big polluters. THink Joe Manchin on STEROIDS. NOTHING changes because of them. Renewables have been available, affordable, possible for decades. INSTEAD, we keep propping up big oil, fossil fuel companies with gargantuan subsidies, they make enormous profits and pay zero taxes.

"Nothing man can do" is bullshit. Absolute bullshit.

[WarGamer]

20. A lot of experts would argue...

No... it's inevitable.

It's take a LOOOONG post for me to make my case BUT I'll give you a summary.

CO2 emissions are growing at an uncontrolled rate. Any reductions in CO2 emissions are being FAR surpassed by increases in different parts of the world.

No amount of Chevy Volts or Solar Panels can change that.

We're done.

Palm trees in the polar circle by 2100.

We, as a human species need to start PREPARING today.

[WarGamer]

47. There is no evidence those things will help, as I've explained.

Time to PREPARE for a different future.

[WarGamer]

49. I'm in favor of green energy plans

But they will do VERY little and are NOT a solution.

Like i said... for every % of reduction in CO2 emissions from a Western Country, 3X that amount is being produced by China, India and African nations MORE than the previous year.

[Kaleva]

41. We can adapt or at least make an effort to

The effects of climate change will not be uniform around the world. Some regions will be devasted, others won't be so bad and there will be areas that will become more suitable for human habitation.


If one's plan to deal with the effects of climate change is to not do anything and accept death, I see no rational reason to be worried about events taking place today.

[WarGamer]

48. Mitigation is a fairy tale.

And you're right, time to prepare society for a much different future.

Plan WHERE agriculture will prosper in 20 years, build cities and infrastructure to handle the massive coming needs, etc...

I'm VERY much in support of preparing. But I also realize that green energy and whatever is like finding an extra box of sponges on the Titanic while she's sinking.

[Kaleva]

50. We agree

[WarGamer]

51. Awesome!

[WarGamer]

10. The ONLY way you get Russian boots out of Ukraine

Is with the full might of the USAF and 2-3 Armored Divisions on the ground...

And around the same time that happens... nukes start popping off.

[WarGamer]

16. I hear ya... and I share your feelings.

But.

There is NO NEED to escalate. The Ukrainians are (depending on definitions) WINNING the war already.

The Russians will be ready for a humiliating peace deal soon...

IMHO, this war is the end of Putin. One way or another, maybe he is granted asylum in China on a 1000 acre Mountain hideout... or whatever...

But within a few years (or sooner), Russia will have a moderate leader and grow closer to the EU.

And just a reminder, humankind has a history of "might being right" and "big guys rules" and those such things. They aren't changing because they're human nature.

Even in social democracies, there is ample unfairness and bias. It's a human thing.

[LudwigPastorius]

29. "NATO can stop it"

Yes, it can.

However, the costs and consequences must be considered.

Would you be willing to fight in Ukraine? Or, would you send your child or grandchild? Because somebody’s children have to go. That’s the cost.

As far as consequences, are you willing to risk global thermonuclear war? Because there is a less than zero chance of that happening if NATO attacks Russian forces.

[LudwigPastorius]

38. "Question is, where do we make our stand?"

The answer, for me at least, is with our NATO allies that we've pledged to defend.

In the mean time, we support Ukraine with as much as we can muster, short of shooting at the Russians ourselves.

[RussBLib]

17. I'm still cutting Garland some slack

he's facing one of the biggest, messiest, most tangled-up investigations in history, and each week we learn something that factors in. we got mafia money, we got huge dark money, we got Russian oligarch money, we got some entangled US Senators, House members and SCOTUS members all tied up together.

biggest investigation in history? could be, and it ain't over by any means.

[Kingofalldems]

34. Wow. Almost every day.

[WarGamer]

37. almost every day, what... koad?

[WarGamer]

12. Also, there's a third option and the most likely one.

Maybe before summer, Russia and Ukraine sign a peace deal that ends the war.

Yeah, there'd be concessions for Russia but it ends the problem which is hurting the WORLD.

Pyrrhic victory... is it worth it to get every Russian boot out of Ukraine, no matter the cost?

If yes... our Tardigrade successors will be happy.

[uponit7771]

45. +1,

[C_U_L8R]

9. Our friends in Croatia are worried about famine.

A lot of counties depend on Ukraine's agriculture. That's partly why Russia is trying to destroy it.

[Initech]

18. This has seriously been the worst decade ever.

[uponit7771]

46. +1, ... 2020s be like ... fuck all ya'll

[yellowdogintexas]

22. I was at the supermarket today and it was depressing to see the big empty spaces

on many of the shelves, particularly in non perishables like pasta.

[WarGamer]

23. And the cat food section... wiped out!!

[Meowmee]

27. The cat food section as far as cans has been frequently wiped out nearly everywhere since midway

Into the pandemic. No explanation why.

[WarGamer]

32. I know this sounds petty...

But I like Caffeine Free Diet Coke and it was mostly unavailable for 1+ years...

I try to avoid Caffeine and thoroughly enjoy 1-2 cans a day...

[Meowmee]

36. Well I won't hold it against you 😹

I hope it comes back in. Maybe you can make your own. I have a device that makes carbonated drinks.

[Deminpenn]

24. Maybe we in the US will stop

wasting so much food.

[Meowmee]

25. Did anyone say which foods?

I saw a lot of bare shelves at WF the other day but I think it was due to a storm and they are like that sometimes even in normal circumstances. Prices are going up on many items I buy since the war started. The start of the pandemic was the worst and things never got back to normal, price gouging started then.

[WarGamer]

26. We were having issues before the war, too...

Remember "supply chain issues"? Haven't heard that phrase on the news lately.

[Meowmee]

28. Yes I remember

It may still be partly that.

[WarGamer]

31. definitely.

[Ritabert]

33. The only things I've seen missing are ramen noodles

....and pasta.

[Meowmee]

35. Thanks

I can’t eat any grains now, but will try to stock up for my brother. I just biught him more spaghetti at bjs. That was the only box left but because it was on sale, all the other pastas werw well stocked. The Noodles packs he doesn’t eat mostly.

[NickB79]

40. I've been keeping 3 months worth of food on hand for years now

That's 3 months worth for my entire family, not just myself. It came in very handy during quarantine. Now would be a good time to stock up if you have the money and space. Canned vegetables, beans, rice, lentils, pastas, tuna, chicken, sauces, etc will all last years if need be.

Also a good time to work on your vegetable garden plans. Mine will be huge (huger?) this year, and I'm going to really double down on canning and dehydrating. I'm down to my last 40 jars of tomato sauce, salsa and chili starter. The bread and butter pickle reserves are holding strong though, thank God 🤣

[keithbvadu2]

42. Genius strategy by Putin acc to Trump

[roamer65]

43. Bread, pasta...anything wheat based will see a lot of price inflation.

During WW1, the US government advocated the consumption of corn bread over wheat bread so the crop could be used to feed Europe and our soldiers.

There will be wheat based products in North America, they just will be a LOT more expensive.

India, Pakistan, Africa and the Middle East are going to see war-based famine.

[Hortensis]

44. Glad to see gardening mentioned. It IS spring, after all.

?

With a little planning ahead (shop the seeds), famines and cyber war needn't keep us from enjoying salads from our own artisanal mixes. Or just the tomatoes. Seriously, growing things feeds body and soul and makes us happy.

[MissB]

52. I just spent the afternoon setting up a new raised bed.

Still have four more to either put in place or assemble (then put in place). I’m using birdies raised beds because I’m able to just stand and plant/harvest rather than bend down. I’ll be maxed out this year for bed space.

I have a ton of vegetables and flowers starting. I ended up doing a lot of winter sowing and am just now getting to spring sowing. My onions, leeks and kales are getting planted out this weekend.

I could spend a good hour plus a day in the yard working on the garden area. Generally this time of year, I do. Hurts like heck to prep beds but it’s so worth it by summer.

[Hortensis]

56. :) Sounds wonderful, MissB. The planning alone's such fun,

before you even get to the pleasures of fussing and watching everything grow.

We're twixt and between these days with moving seasonally, and I really miss starting seeds in the winter and getting to put them out. So I mainly do some fast salad-type greens that grow fast in a couple raised block beds we threw together, and herbs. When I get back to it for real, it will definitely be raised beds. Crawling around on the ground and leaning in is darned uncomfortable; how didn't I notice that all those years?

Enjoy. I know you will.

[Ilsa]

53. I guess we'll all be gluten-free. Will there be beer shortages? nt

[BGBD]

54. Let more immigrants in

[BootinUp]

55. Vlad and his predecessors are involved,

one way or the other, in a lot of the crisis you mention.