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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsExclusive-U.S. assesses up to 60% failure rate for some Russian missiles, officials say
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States assesses that Russia is suffering failure rates as high as 60% for some of the precision-guided missiles it is using to attack Ukraine, three U.S. officials with knowledge of the intelligence told Reuters.
The disclosure could help explain why Russia has failed to achieve what most could consider basic objectives since its invasion a month ago, such as neutralizing Ukraine's air force, despite the apparent strength of its military against Ukraine's much smaller armed forces.
The U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the information, did not provide evidence to support the assessment and did not disclose what precisely was driving high Russian missile failure rates.
Reuters was unable to independently verify the figures.
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uponit7771
(90,336 posts)... supposed to be used for ongoing maintenance for some bullshit.
Lets say they didn't for the nuclear arsenal, I don't trust the Russians not to screw up the maintenance of the missiles.
ProfessorGAC
(65,035 posts)...there has long been suspicions that a 10-20% "did" rate has been considered success, for decades.
During the cold war, it may have been higher than 20%.
With that starting point, corruptly diverting just a little maintenance could make that value skyrocket. (Pun acknowledged, but not intended.)
Weapons designers have believed, at least since early 70s, that the USSR built quantity because they never believed in their own quality. Especially on the nuclear side.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)During the Second World War, 'dud' rates typically ran about fifteen to twenty percent. Old stocks, like in the Philippines in '42, ran to about one in three, but the stuff dated back more than twenty years.
ProfessorGAC
(65,035 posts)...and much better base technology.
Did rates are nothing close to those values and haven't been for decades.
Weapons designers expect our nuclear arsenal to have a >95% chance of every nuclear warhead would function.
Any design that jeopardized that standard would never go into production.
In addition, in WWII, our best weapons manufacturing personnel went to war. A huge percentage of the workforce took a couple years to get to the high competency that was sacrificed.
It's only natural during such a learning curve, that some categories of weapons would be less reliable than others.
But, your point is taken.
The Magistrate
(95,247 posts)I expect even fuses are a bit more complex, and there's so much more to fail with a missile and warhead. I don't think the claimed failure rate unthinkable.
tanyev
(42,556 posts)LiberalFighter
(50,928 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,375 posts)That's a polite way to say the money was stolen.
OAITW r.2.0
(24,469 posts)You don't find $750MM USD for a pleasure craft or a $1BB luxury dacha without diverting money from somewhere.
jcgoldie
(11,631 posts)"Trumped" the Russian military.
Kaleva
(36,299 posts)poli-junkie
(1,002 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,375 posts)when we liaised with their equivalent of combat engineers, their equipment, at least that they didn't sell for booze/drugs, was in piss poor shape and they didn't seem to give a damn.
Kaleva
(36,299 posts)Both consider RU aircraft to be junk. At least when compared to Western military aircraft.
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)Seems it preferred taking a nap in a forest
roamer65
(36,745 posts)ProfessorGAC
(65,035 posts)The US has tactical missile that fly above Mach 5. Their technology isn't unique to their war industry.
There'll be nothing on that missile that would teach weapons designers a thing.
The media hyped up some of their tech, but "vacuum bombs" (a really dumb moniker) and hypersonic missiles are nothing new.
relayerbob
(6,544 posts)Jam, redirect, or disable the arming and detonation systems would make it utterly useless. Beyond that, I agree.
ProfessorGAC
(65,035 posts)Russian R&D is not ahead of the west.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)If even just to get an understanding of their design philosophy.