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Swede

(33,233 posts)
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 02:25 PM Mar 2022

Blown up russian equipment, fire, Ukrainian troops after fierce battle,and in walks a Ukrainian girl

The Russians are gonna lose this war.




Blown up russian equipment, fire, Ukrainian troops after fierce battle,... and in walks a Ukrainian girl with a Kalashnikov, no helmet, no bullet proof vest, sunglasses, who is fighting with the battalion.




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Blown up russian equipment, fire, Ukrainian troops after fierce battle,and in walks a Ukrainian girl (Original Post) Swede Mar 2022 OP
Woman. cbabe Mar 2022 #1
+1 n/t progressoid Mar 2022 #6
Annnd, she's a redhead, no problem, God bless her. n/t SheilaAnn Mar 2022 #17
what cbabe said. debsy Mar 2022 #40
Was expecting to see a girl. That's a woman. betsuni Mar 2022 #55
Seriously. Was expecting a 6 year old. Not Sarah Connor. spudspud Mar 2022 #81
+1,000 Pacifist Patriot Mar 2022 #108
Instant meme jackpot Tetrachloride Mar 2022 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #3
What we called the "thousand yard stare" nt MarineCombatEngineer Mar 2022 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #15
She probably earned it! COL Mustard Mar 2022 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #44
Never a good look on anyone sanatanadharma Mar 2022 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #43
Any song reference in that post? BMW2020RT Mar 2022 #48
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #51
I knew it! BMW2020RT Mar 2022 #56
There are no words that adequately express how much I admire these people. highplainsdem Mar 2022 #4
I'm with you Deuxcents Mar 2022 #8
What he said 👆 sarchasm Mar 2022 #49
Seriously. They are so bad ass. smirkymonkey Mar 2022 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #100
Rambo is a wimp Jerry2144 Mar 2022 #5
For Many Of Those Places You Name... GB_RN Mar 2022 #33
Amen to everything you said. Lonestarblue Mar 2022 #38
Too true... txwhitedove Mar 2022 #39
Please add to your list . . PhylliPretzel Mar 2022 #52
I will Jerry2144 Mar 2022 #107
Put her in a room with Vladdy... orwell Mar 2022 #7
Ukrainian girls are formidable. Dale in Laurel MD Mar 2022 #9
Ukraine Has Some Very Beautiful Women... GB_RN Mar 2022 #34
Don't tell me ironflange Mar 2022 #60
My mother-in-law and I were always very polite to each other. Dale in Laurel MD Mar 2022 #103
Kick dalton99a Mar 2022 #10
So where are we on the Terminator timeline that Sarah Conner is Ukrainian? JHB Mar 2022 #11
LOL-- right? LymphocyteLover Mar 2022 #30
WOMAN! She looks like a young adult woman to me. MineralMan Mar 2022 #12
Precisely. At first I thought it referred to a child coming upon a scene of destruction. tblue37 Mar 2022 #13
Well, we do call our troops "our boys". Brits & other do the same oldsoftie Mar 2022 #21
We used to. I think the turning point was either Vietnam or when gangsters took over the term... Hekate Mar 2022 #23
I don't. MineralMan Mar 2022 #98
Its a term of endearment. Presidents have said "Our boys" for decades oldsoftie Mar 2022 #104
No. It is a way to diminish them. It always has been. MineralMan Mar 2022 #106
"Ukraine girls really knock me out, they leave the West behind" Walleye Mar 2022 #16
Besides Paul McCartney, they knock out helicopters and tanks, too! nt Gore1FL Mar 2022 #18
Yes. The new refrain from the Russian infantry and tank soldiers Walleye Mar 2022 #19
Walleye is channeling Beach Boys "California Girls", not Paul McCartney. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2022 #35
Nope. McCartney was channeling the Beach Boys when he wrote... reACTIONary Mar 2022 #45
You are correct. Thanks! I looked up lyrics: "Back in the USSR" has that exact line. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2022 #91
Back in the U.S.S.R. Gore1FL Mar 2022 #73
Heh BeyondGeography Mar 2022 #20
Vlad ... pack up your shit and go home. lpbk2713 Mar 2022 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #24
Hollywood Character #1: "Is that a man?" Grokenstein Mar 2022 #25
I knew when dipshit MTG said Ukraine was going to lose, they got this. Norbert Mar 2022 #26
LOL-- seriously! LymphocyteLover Mar 2022 #28
The Ukrainian soldier heard in the background: "Here comes our heroine" Beastly Boy Mar 2022 #27
This Soldier is fighting for her home. sky_masterson Mar 2022 #29
This is all so surreal IronLionZion Mar 2022 #31
Like former GB Air Marshall Philip Osborne said.... paleotn Mar 2022 #53
Run you Russkies, that woman has a jar of cucumbers in her bag Brother Buzz Mar 2022 #32
Ummm, jar of tomatoes! pazzyanne Mar 2022 #76
Um, jars of tomatoes are reserved for babushkas Brother Buzz Mar 2022 #86
O-ka-a-ay. nt pazzyanne Mar 2022 #105
Link is to a reply, not the tweet you quote. Can't see anything, no photo, no tweet that you referen Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2022 #36
Reminds me of John Milius' 1984 movie, "Red Dawn." sop Mar 2022 #37
Ok,I'm waiting to see WOLVERINES painted on a Ukrainian tank...or a dead russian T72.. mitch96 Mar 2022 #50
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #58
If you can shoot and cover my 6, I don't care who you are. paleotn Mar 2022 #46
Before you fall in love with Vita Zaverukha, know that's she's a neo-NAZI Steven Maurer Mar 2022 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #54
Lol, more interesting than Sarah Connor waitress before turning badass anyway. Hortensis Mar 2022 #57
I don't buy it for a second. orangecrush Mar 2022 #65
What's your source for identifying the woman in the video in the OP as highplainsdem Mar 2022 #59
The GRU. orangecrush Mar 2022 #62
Spread russian disinformation much? orangecrush Mar 2022 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #67
You betcha. nt orangecrush Mar 2022 #69
I've been doing a lot of searching and have yet to find one credible source highplainsdem Mar 2022 #70
Thanks orangecrush Mar 2022 #72
How do you know it's her? she is shooting russian invaders.. mitch96 Mar 2022 #64
Yeah, Putin would never lie orangecrush Mar 2022 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #102
Yep, I posted below (before I saw your post). n/t demmiblue Mar 2022 #75
Is she Azov Battalion? Ruby the Liberal Mar 2022 #77
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #82
From what I have read, she had associations with Azov members, and was part of the... demmiblue Mar 2022 #90
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #94
A low post member just "happens" to spout poot propaganda alphafemale Mar 2022 #85
I don't think it looks like the same woman, comrade. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #93
Four tanks taken out. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #63
I hate that Ukrainians are being forcibly taken to Russia, tanyev Mar 2022 #66
There is some speculation in the comments that this woman is Vita Zaverukha: demmiblue Mar 2022 #71
Smells like disinfo orangecrush Mar 2022 #74
I'll believe a real news source. So far no media confirmation. highplainsdem Mar 2022 #78
Umm, ok (as if they are going to cover this). demmiblue Mar 2022 #83
Trombly is uncertain enough himself that although he's referring highplainsdem Mar 2022 #87
I don't think that signifies much of anything, really. demmiblue Mar 2022 #92
I disagree. I'll wait for a more credible source. Especially since highplainsdem Mar 2022 #96
Whatever. demmiblue Mar 2022 #97
The sort of Twitter account posting this claim tends to be highplainsdem Mar 2022 #101
Her clothes look spotless and uncreased, FWIW. TheRickles Mar 2022 #80
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This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #88
Yep YoshidaYui Mar 2022 #79
don't mess with Slavic women. WarGamer Mar 2022 #89
Iconic Moments! Cha Mar 2022 #95

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COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
42. She probably earned it!
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 04:51 PM
Mar 2022

I wouldn't want to know what their lives are like right now but damn they're fighters!

Response to COL Mustard (Reply #42)

sanatanadharma

(3,699 posts)
41. Never a good look on anyone
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 04:50 PM
Mar 2022

So sad, the insanity of the human condition, not fully redeemed by the tenacity of the human condition.

Response to sanatanadharma (Reply #41)

BMW2020RT

(139 posts)
48. Any song reference in that post?
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 05:02 PM
Mar 2022

Edited:

I had an arrangement to meet a girl, and I was kind of late
And I thought by the time I got there she'd be off
She'd be off with the nearest truck driver she could find
Much to my surprise, there she was sittin' in the corner
The girl with far away eyes

And if you're downright disgusted
And life ain't worth a dime
Get a girl with far away eyes

If not, sorry. That Stones song popped into my head.

Short skirt / Long jacket by Cake is a good one for that video. You know, to conceal that weapon she is carrying.

Music always enhances film.

🙂🇺🇦

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smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
99. Seriously. They are so bad ass.
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 06:23 PM
Mar 2022

And I don't mean that in a glib way. They really are strong, resilient people. They amaze me.

I would be cowering in a corner, wetting myself. Not able to function. I don't know how they do it.

Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #99)

Jerry2144

(2,099 posts)
5. Rambo is a wimp
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 02:36 PM
Mar 2022

compared to this young Ukrainian woman. She's the definition of badass. Calmly walking by as if she were on her way to Starbucks. Freaking Poo Tin. Putting all these people through this hell.

When will humanity move to the next level and stop all wars, not just Ukraine, but also in Yemen, Syria, Libya, Ethiopia, Niger, Chad, Myanmar, and too many other places to name? Too many people getting killed for dumb reasons when we should be focusing our attention on Climate Change, famines, and diseases.

GB_RN

(2,347 posts)
33. For Many Of Those Places You Name...
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 04:34 PM
Mar 2022

Those wars won't end until people get over religion. Warring over religion/in the name of one's deity is the absolute height of human stupidity and more people have died in the name of some god than any other cause in our collective history.

Then, we have to get over our tribalism and fear of "the other". We have to realize beyond the differences that are literally no deeper than the depth of our skin, we are all the same. Look at a skeleton or a heart from an Asian and compare it to a Pacific Islander, African, European, South American Native, etc, and unless you were told which came from what body, you would LITERALLY never know what organ or bone came from what body.

All wars are a waste and are started by rich people with large egos. All wars are fought by the poor and the poor suffer the consequences for the rich people's egos.

Dale in Laurel MD

(698 posts)
103. My mother-in-law and I were always very polite to each other.
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 06:49 PM
Mar 2022

I could never be sure how much English she understood, and she could never be sure how much Ukrainian I understood. (Not much, alas, in both cases...)

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
12. WOMAN! She looks like a young adult woman to me.
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 02:57 PM
Mar 2022

Do we call young, adult male Ukrainians who are bearing arms for Ukraine "boys?" I don't think so.

Let's not juvenilize young Ukrainian women, please!

Hekate

(90,644 posts)
23. We used to. I think the turning point was either Vietnam or when gangsters took over the term...
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 04:21 PM
Mar 2022

I tried placing it n my mind awhile back when a buncha posters insisted America had never called our fighting men “boys.” Yes we did. They were always “some mother’s son” in popular sentimental parlance. Hence, “our boys.”

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
98. I don't.
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 06:23 PM
Mar 2022

We ask them to risk their lives, but call them boys? How does that make any sense at all. I was 19 when I voluntarily enlisted in the USAF in 1965. I was not a boy. It was an adult decision. My father was 20 when he was a first pilot in a B-17, flying bombing missions in WWII. A "boy?" Disrespectful!

I find it offensive, to say the least...

oldsoftie

(12,531 posts)
104. Its a term of endearment. Presidents have said "Our boys" for decades
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 07:24 PM
Mar 2022

Its an affectionate term. Athletes use terms like "me and the boys" is used all the time. Wrestlers call themselves "the boys". You can take offense but I'm sure you're in the small minority. It never bothered me or anyone I served with. My older relatives spoke using that term as well

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
106. No. It is a way to diminish them. It always has been.
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 08:01 PM
Mar 2022

We finally gave 18-year-olds the vote, after so many lost their lives in Vietnam. It was too late for them. For the rest of us to refer to them as boys or girls is simply disrespectful. If they want to call themselves that, that's their choice, but it is not right for the rest of us to do so.

That young Ukrainian woman going to war to defend her country is not a girl. She is a brave woman who is risking her life in going into battle. To say otherwise is to minimize her bravery and adulthood . It is a deep shame to do so.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
45. Nope. McCartney was channeling the Beach Boys when he wrote...
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 04:54 PM
Mar 2022

... Back in the USSR. And Chuck Berry.

The story I heard was that the Beatles and the Beach Boys were both on tour in the USSR, and the Beatles took inspiration from the Beach Boys to write a pastiche. And echo Chuck Berry's Back in the USA.

Clever lads.

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Grokenstein

(5,722 posts)
25. Hollywood Character #1: "Is that a man?"
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 04:22 PM
Mar 2022

Hollywood Character #2: "Yeah, you're damn right it is!"
Real Life: "Get f***ed, clowns."

(Source for HC#1 and 2: Philip Kaufman's The Right Stuff, 1983)

Beastly Boy

(9,310 posts)
27. The Ukrainian soldier heard in the background: "Here comes our heroine"
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 04:26 PM
Mar 2022

No doubt in his mind how to address her properly.

sky_masterson

(416 posts)
29. This Soldier is fighting for her home.
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 04:27 PM
Mar 2022

I agree the Ukrainians will win. Their Hearts are in it, and the Russians aren't.
Also, that lady is a Bad-Ass!

IronLionZion

(45,427 posts)
31. This is all so surreal
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 04:27 PM
Mar 2022

It's a dystopian world out there. Yes, Russia needs to lose and/or give up. They're not going to defeat the Ukrainian people.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
53. Like former GB Air Marshall Philip Osborne said....
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 05:07 PM
Mar 2022

paraphrase..."it's a country of 40 million people. If they don't want you there, it's going to be impossible to hold." She's one of those 40 million who don't want them there.

Skip to ~3:50. The whole conversation is interesting, even if it is a bit dated (Mar. 6).



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paleotn

(17,911 posts)
46. If you can shoot and cover my 6, I don't care who you are.
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 04:56 PM
Mar 2022

Heard that more than once from some of the "ground pounders" i've known over the years. All hands on deck in Ukraine's fight for freedom from tyranny.

Steven Maurer

(459 posts)
47. Before you fall in love with Vita Zaverukha, know that's she's a neo-NAZI
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 05:00 PM
Mar 2022

She's got a past, and it isn't the romantic kind.




Yes, she's bad-ass. She's also a bad guy. Her husband is massively worse.

But war makes strange bedfellows.

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Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
57. Lol, more interesting than Sarah Connor waitress before turning badass anyway.
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 05:12 PM
Mar 2022

If half the things a quick google turns up are true! Including that she was identified as being part of a violent attack on a Ukrainian Women's March on International Women's Day.

orangecrush

(19,535 posts)
65. I don't buy it for a second.
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 05:20 PM
Mar 2022


A. Woman is not identified in video. Could be anyone. Also could be photoshopped, which Russia has done before to demonize anti russian groups.

B. The poster's having this is much too convenient.

orangecrush

(19,535 posts)
61. Spread russian disinformation much?
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 05:15 PM
Mar 2022


Russia photoshopped swastikas onto the banners of anti russian protestors in the Crimean takover.

It's also easy to photoshop a face into a picture.

And you just "happened" to know her identity and had this on hand, right?

I call bullshit.

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highplainsdem

(48,968 posts)
70. I've been doing a lot of searching and have yet to find one credible source
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 05:25 PM
Mar 2022

identifying that woman as Zaverukha. Only pro-Russian, anti-Ukraine, anti-Biden accounts.

mitch96

(13,891 posts)
64. How do you know it's her? she is shooting russian invaders..
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 05:20 PM
Mar 2022

we will deal with her politics later. I believe these are the Nazis putin was talking about. Cleanse the Donbas of these people is what I think he said. The AZOV battalion and C12 are neo Nazi right wing nut jobs in Mariupol. I think that's why they are trying to level this town..The Nazis live there..or so they say..
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ukraine-russia-war-azov-battalion-putin-premise-war-vs-nazis/

Response to mitch96 (Reply #64)

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
77. Is she Azov Battalion?
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 05:37 PM
Mar 2022

They are neo-nazis that joined the fight with Ukraine when Russia attacked and have been doing some heavy lifting in Mariupol.

I was just watching a thing on them last night - they used to be at odds with the government, but didn't hesitate to jump in to help defend when the attacks started.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Battalion

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oldsoftie

(12,531 posts)
93. I don't think it looks like the same woman, comrade.
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 06:15 PM
Mar 2022

It'll take a lot more than some convenient pics to convince me.

tanyev

(42,550 posts)
66. I hate that Ukrainians are being forcibly taken to Russia,
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 05:21 PM
Mar 2022

but part of me wonders if the Russians are really, really going to regret that.

demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
71. There is some speculation in the comments that this woman is Vita Zaverukha:
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 05:28 PM
Mar 2022





Hate to burst everyone's bubble but I am 99% sure that this is longtime neo-Nazi activist Vita "Nazist Terror Pussy Riot" Zaveruha, infamous for an alleged war crime, involvement in a cop killing, and attacks on LGBT activists. More than happy to show my work if necessary.

The tl;dr is that this is the first pic on Zaveruha's instagram and this is in her story from yesterday (along with video of the scene in OP from her own POV)





Yes, and when it comes to media exposure of far-right activists, much of it is coming from unwitting* Western/friendly media. Whereas Russian accounts are lazy & recycle the most infamous pics of 2014-15 and take the "Ukronazi" line as a given

*I'd hope

Be remiss not to mention that in 1 respect, her views have become more tolerant. She was infamously pictured with a PG-7 with "Death to the Orthodox" written on it. But today she fights with Bratstvo, an org whose ex-UNA-UNSO founder once described it as the "Orthodox Taliban"




demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
83. Umm, ok (as if they are going to cover this).
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 05:53 PM
Mar 2022


The person I linked to appears to be credible and has notable followers, including: Olivia Messer, Benjamin Wittes, Sarah Kendzior, Adam Serwer, Human Rights Watch, ...

Dan Trombly
@stcolumbia

Researching political violence, radicalism, paramilitarism, antisocial movements, plus subculture content. Poli sci PhD student @ GWU. Tweets are my own views.

District of Columbia

Joined September 2010

1,002 Following 7,969 Followers

Followed by Olivia Messer 🌞, Don Winslow, and 10 others you follow

highplainsdem

(48,968 posts)
87. Trombly is uncertain enough himself that although he's referring
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 06:04 PM
Mar 2022

to what he says is her Instagram account, he won't post the link to that account -- which other people can't find; I couldn't -- on Twitter but says people will have to DM him.

demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
92. I don't think that signifies much of anything, really.
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 06:15 PM
Mar 2022

Also, he seems pretty certain to me:

Hate to burst everyone's bubble but I am 99% sure that this is longtime neo-Nazi activist Vita "Nazist Terror Pussy Riot" Zaveruha, infamous for an alleged war crime, involvement in a cop killing, and attacks on LGBT activists. More than happy to show my work if necessary.

highplainsdem

(48,968 posts)
96. I disagree. I'll wait for a more credible source. Especially since
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 06:18 PM
Mar 2022

he isn't willing to link to the Instagram account he's claiming as his main evidence.

highplainsdem

(48,968 posts)
101. The sort of Twitter account posting this claim tends to be
Fri Mar 25, 2022, 06:31 PM
Mar 2022

like that of Big Habibi @TokensDeals. Pro-Russian, anti-Ukraine, anti-Biden. So far that grad student in DC is the only exception.

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