DAMN! Andrew Sullivan on ABC: Romney wins VA & FL? South's Electoral Map will = Confederate States

[trailmonkee]

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/andrew-sullivan-to-abc-if-romney-wins-florida-and-va-its-the-confederacy/

During this Sunday’s edition of ABC’s This Week, Daily Beast writer Andrew Sullivan claimed that if Republican nominee Mitt Romney wins back Florida and Virginia in the upcoming 2012 presidential election, especially due to the white vote, then the South’s electoral map will look exactly like the pro-slavery United States Confederacy during the Civil War.

This observation came in response to host George Stephanopoulos noting that the latest polls show that six out of ten white Americans intend to vote for Romney.

[Savannahmann]

1. I saw a bumper sticker

If at first you don't secede, try try again. Not sure if that's related to this, but it makes you wonder.

[trailmonkee]

2. where did you see that one?

[Savannahmann]

5. Outside of Savannah Ga.

Perhaps it's relevent, perhaps not. I just thought of it when I read the post.

[trailmonkee]

13. definitely relevent...

[WillyT]

3. K & R !!!

[Fawke Em]

4. No mention of the mid-western states that will vote in the Romney column?

Of course not, that wouldn't fit the Southern-bashing meme.

[trailmonkee]

7. there are no victims here... I think he was just pointing out a reality

[Fawke Em]

14. So why has there not been a slew of posts

concerning how red Nebraska or the Dakotas or Missouri or Utah or Montana are?

Yes, we get the occasional "What's the Matter with Kansas?" thread, but that's only because there was a book by the same title.

I guess my point is that there are good, strong Democrats in the Southern states - more so than in Utah or Oklahoma, the two reddest states on the map - and our challenges are much more difficult than those living in blue states. We've got far more of a battle on our hands than a Democrat in New York or California has.

[arely staircase]

15. or missouri or indiana

a lot of things that aren't red on your map will be red in Nov. we both know that. and while your analysis of white southern sympathies is largely correct, your implication that rigthward .leanings among whites (particularly males) is a uniquely southern thing leaves you open to accusations of stereotyping.

[John2]

6. Sullivan

left out North Carolina. Romney has not won North Carolina even though the State's Rights Party (Republican) and Dixiecrats would like to think so. There is a mini civil war going on in North Carolina. North Carolina is going down to the wire on election day, that will be the shocker of this election if North Carolina adds another lie to the GOPs many lies. If Obama takes North Carolina, it will not even be close and you will hear a drumbeat of the GOP's death the entire evening. The Confederacy's last ray of hope ended in Durham County North Carolina.

[trailmonkee]

8. I don't think he mentioned since Nate Silver has NC at 82.5 Romney

[John2]

11. That

is why I said it will be a shocker. Romney is behind in the early voting of North Carolina by a significant margin. He is going to run out of troops just like Robert E. Lee. He needs to recruit minorities to plug up the hole. It will be too late then.

[reformist2]

9. This has been true since 2000. I think his term "Cold Civil War" is spot on, though.

[hfojvt]

10. not this crap again

as if Kansas, Nebraska, Wyoming, Montana, Idaho, Utah, the Dakotas and Alaska were part of the confederacy.

Oh, and just for fun, check out the states that the Democrats took in 1920 http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/ and 1908 and 1924

[Fawke Em]

16. + 1 million

[Honeycombe8]

12. Yes, I think that's the general consensus. Anything can happen, though. nt

[yardwork]

17. How many white Americans voted for w over Kerry? And w over Gore?

I suspect that a similar margin of white people - especially white men - have been voting Republican for a long time.