Another General killed.

[Old Crank]

From the Bbc yet another general is killed.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/another-russian-general-killed-in-ukraine/ar-AAVwazH?ocid=AMZN

Good.

[Emile]

1. Wow, does that make 5 or 6 generals killed?

[Amishman]

3. Seven if you count the Chechen warlord

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_generals_killed_during_the_2022_invasion_of_Ukraine

[Emile]

4. Oh my god, it's almost like Russian troops are killing them off.

[BootinUp]

5. I've been keeping track

of what our military experts say on this.

2 things which I think explain it, without any rebellious actions needed.

1. Communications are broken for them
2. They have no non-commissioned officers corp. (Sergeants)

[Irish_Dem]

6. Also RU have a very rigid chain of command. Field officers, NCOs not allowed to make decisions.

It may mean more top brass have to be in field positions. The officers and NCOs who are in the field and actually dealing with events in real time are not able to act without orders.

Japan and Germany had the same problem in WWII. The Germany military particularly was greatly weakened by Hitler's megalomania desire to control every aspect of the military, really weakening experienced officers.

In contrast American troops in the field were given more latitude and discretion to get the mission accomplished.

[BootinUp]

7. I think they are much more exposed

than our generals. The other comment by an analyst was that it seems the RU generals are very motivated.

[Irish_Dem]

8. Yes I am sure Putin has threatened them with jail or death

He wants results at any price.

So they are out in the field trying to give Putin what he wants.

[lastlib]

9. Some years ago, I watched a documentary about the Normandy invasion D-Day....

I wish I had recorded it! Near the end, a D-Day veteran was asked why the invasion was successful. I can't recall it verbatim, but here's the gist of it: "The difference was, we had Eagle Scouts, and the Germans had the Hitler Youth. The Hitler Youth were trained to take orders, follow the leader. So when there was no leader to give orders, they were lost. Our Eagle Scouts were trained to take initiative, to get the job done, however necessary. That ability to take initiative, to get the job done was what made the difference, and our Eagle Scouts beat the Hitler Youth."

[Irish_Dem]

10. Exactly. Yes that was a factor too. Quality of troops.

In some cases on D-Day, all the officers and higher ranking NCOs in a platoon were killed right away. This meant lower ranking men were in charge, and they were still able to get the job done.

There was a big difference in how Germany and the US trained their youth. In Hitler Youth there was blind allegiance to one ideal leader, Hitler. In the Eagle Scouts the boys were taught to be leaders, get the job done, etc.

[2naSalit]

12. I heard someone...

Maybe Clint Watts (?) explain that the Russian military does not have an NCO corps so the brass have to be in the field to micromanage. of a sort. There are fewer levels of command between the head and the soldiers.

At least that's what I got out of it.

[Irish_Dem]

13. NCOs are the ones who get the job done out in the field.

I have read mixed reports about whether NCOs exist or not in the Russian army.

If there are Russian NCOs they have no power or authority, they can only move with an officer's command. So they sit around and do nothing. Which is very different from how the US military operates.

[2naSalit]

14. I'm not really sure aout how it all works...

I thought it was interesting when I heard the comments. I think it was on Deadline WH on MSNBC yesterday. The question was, "Why do so many Generals end up dead in the field?"

It's clear their command structure is quite different from ours and is likely why they are not doing well up against an actual 21st century military force.

[Irish_Dem]

16. It was the same problem Germany and Japan had in WWII.

Very rigid command structure. Soldiers in the field could not make decisions.

[2naSalit]

17. Hopefully...

That will cause morale to cascade into outright mutiny in many companies.

[Irish_Dem]

18. One RU colonel was run over by tank driven by his men.

On purpose.

[2naSalit]

19. I saw that!

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More of that would be a good thing. I suspect that there is a major transition about to take place in Russia and may facilitate more regions claiming autonomy.

Time will tell.

[Irish_Dem]

20. I hope so.

That would be so great.

[Amishman]

11. Nah, that's just Colonels (so far)

But who knows? Might happen

[Dial H For Hero]

2. I'm sure it's been done, but any excuse to post Queen...

[Baitball Blogger]

15. He was killed yesterday!

Two posts were already posted on this subject, yesterday.

This is just a tease. Maybe we should start putting the names and the date of kill in the thread title?