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President Biden: "For God's sake, this man cannot remain in power." (Original Post) L. Coyote Mar 2022 OP
Gasps in the room here. Inspiring speech, a US president the world sorely needed. (Nt) FreepFryer Mar 2022 #1
Gasps? Where? KPN Mar 2022 #45
A historic speech. dalton99a Mar 2022 #2
Here's the clip Biden is tweeting: L. Coyote Mar 2022 #17
K&R n/t ChazII Mar 2022 #3
"We need to steel ourselves for the long fight ahead." L. Coyote Mar 2022 #4
I wish he could dare Tucker Carlson to visit Ukraine. Srkdqltr Mar 2022 #5
Outstanding speech PatSeg Mar 2022 #6
President Biden is just right for these times. Nt Baked Potato Mar 2022 #7
Exceptionsal hlthe2b Mar 2022 #8
I'm sorry, but that line in the speech was a gaffe ... Alhena Mar 2022 #9
Or was it planned this way? L. Coyote Mar 2022 #11
This FalloutShelter Mar 2022 #12
This! COL Mustard Mar 2022 #39
Yes. "Oops, did I say that? I meant ...." wnylib Mar 2022 #44
Yep. nt orangecrush Mar 2022 #31
Yes. Baked Potato Mar 2022 #32
There are times when Joe's "gaffes" are anything but Hekate Mar 2022 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #38
Nah. It was an expression of hope not a policy statement or promise. David__77 Mar 2022 #53
I call it the truth. Joinfortmill Mar 2022 #55
100 percent behind President Joe Biden. BlueNProud Mar 2022 #10
+ multiples of 1000. wnylib Mar 2022 #46
He already called Putin a war criminal (correctly) gulliver Mar 2022 #13
True. And you can't allow COL Mustard Mar 2022 #43
"This was an historical speech ..." L. Coyote Mar 2022 #14
Thank you. I'll take Colonel Vindman's analysis above a whole cabal of RW propagandists. erronis Mar 2022 #42
🌻 It's heartwarming to see Col. A. Vindman weighing in like this 🌻 Hekate Mar 2022 #59
Lets face it, the world was probably saying the same thing about tRump when he was in power yaesu Mar 2022 #15
We use to put bounties on terrorists. Time to start that up again. Emile Mar 2022 #16
I am sad to hear that according to CNN the White House is already walking back that comment totodeinhere Mar 2022 #18
I have no problem with it. gulliver Mar 2022 #20
I do not think that they should dial it down. totodeinhere Mar 2022 #23
No mention of who or how, could refer to the next "election" in Russia. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #40
Not timidity. Just clarification that wnylib Mar 2022 #47
Of course President Biden did not suggest that Russia be invaded. totodeinhere Mar 2022 #48
Iraq doesn't have nukes. wnylib Mar 2022 #49
Why would we not be in favor of regime change? colorado_ufo Mar 2022 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #41
Maybe the claims of Russias FSB turning on Putin are true. Kablooie Mar 2022 #19
I see the administration walked that comment back now. That's a pretty bad gaffe. sciencescience Mar 2022 #21
Not a gaffe. The best line in the entire speech. Yes, clarification followed. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #24
Not a gaffe. More like strategic assuagement. Nt Baked Potato Mar 2022 #34
Some more reactions: L. Coyote Mar 2022 #22
CNN is hyperventilating, reporting it as "Biden calling for removal of Putin." SunSeeker Mar 2022 #25
No doubt the last line will get the most attention, and agreement too! L. Coyote Mar 2022 #27
CNN is pissing me off! BigmanPigman Mar 2022 #30
This Hekate Mar 2022 #26
Rt💕🤷‍♂️TY & PJB! Cha Mar 2022 #35
Incredible speech for the ages. Powerful and forceful Biden laid down the law. Inspiring. Pepsidog Mar 2022 #36
I hope Biden stands by his statement. He said what most of the world thinks and wants. Lonestarblue Mar 2022 #37
Putin routinely interferes in our government. Look at who he put in our White House dalton99a Mar 2022 #50
Ding, Ding. Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #54
He's saying what so many of us feel! mvd Mar 2022 #51
I stand behind JOE 100% bluestarone Mar 2022 #52
Thank you so much for posting this speech! This whole thread is great! liberalla Mar 2022 #56
How do we get Putin out of power? Maraya1969 Mar 2022 #57
You take up a worldwide collection for a bounty on his head! Emile Mar 2022 #58
We don't. Russians will. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #61
I think it just states the obvious. Putin has forever burned bridges Buckeyeblue Mar 2022 #60

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
4. "We need to steel ourselves for the long fight ahead."
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 02:30 PM
Mar 2022

While Putin is firing missiles at Lviv, Biden reiterates the Russian people are not the enemy.








Srkdqltr

(6,234 posts)
5. I wish he could dare Tucker Carlson to visit Ukraine.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 02:33 PM
Mar 2022

Set him up to see Kiev and other cities. I can here Biden say " I dare you, take your wife and kids, your parents" "I dare you". See if your attitude changes.

Alhena

(3,030 posts)
9. I'm sorry, but that line in the speech was a gaffe ...
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:16 PM
Mar 2022

I'm not saying it was a gaffe as a matter of my opinion, but because his own staff had to rush to the media afterwards and clarify that what he said wasn't what he actually meant.




I'm not a fan of throwing gasoline on the fire of this situation, but, even if you are a fan of Biden's words, it's still a gaffe because he went off script and had to have his staff walk back his words. Not a good day for Biden, imo- it's easy to understand him becoming emotional after meeting with refugees, but what if Russia moves to their version of Defcon 3 because of this speech? What exactly will that have accomplished?

FalloutShelter

(11,837 posts)
12. This
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:23 PM
Mar 2022

Joe said the quiet part out loud and then sent out the staff to walk it back for plausible deniability.

COL Mustard

(5,871 posts)
39. This!
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 04:55 PM
Mar 2022

This is 3-D chess that TFG's fans used to claim he was playing. TFG can't even play checkers. I doubt he can play jacks!

Response to Alhena (Reply #9)

David__77

(23,335 posts)
53. Nah. It was an expression of hope not a policy statement or promise.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 06:08 PM
Mar 2022

The policy of non-military engagement has been clear and consistent with all actions.

gulliver

(13,168 posts)
13. He already called Putin a war criminal (correctly)
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:26 PM
Mar 2022

I don't think these are "whoops" moments, nor are they gaffes. I think Biden puts these true statements out there to get them out there. He told the Russian people he is with them, and they aren't the enemy. He wants to make it clear that Putin's the only thing causing problems.

COL Mustard

(5,871 posts)
43. True. And you can't allow
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 04:56 PM
Mar 2022

A war criminal to remain in power. But any change has to come from within Russia, or all hell will break loose.

Hekate

(90,565 posts)
59. 🌻 It's heartwarming to see Col. A. Vindman weighing in like this 🌻
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 05:07 AM
Mar 2022

🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
15. Lets face it, the world was probably saying the same thing about tRump when he was in power
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:31 PM
Mar 2022

and if tRump had dictator powers like pootie he would have the US fighting right along with pootie.

Emile

(22,508 posts)
16. We use to put bounties on terrorists. Time to start that up again.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:32 PM
Mar 2022

Maybe all the countries could pitch in and make it a huge payout.

totodeinhere

(13,057 posts)
18. I am sad to hear that according to CNN the White House is already walking back that comment
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:34 PM
Mar 2022

and claiming that the president was not calling for regime change.

gulliver

(13,168 posts)
20. I have no problem with it.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:38 PM
Mar 2022

The message has been delivered by President Biden himself in a historic, courageous, eloquent, memorable way. Of course, the White House will dial it down after. That's their job.

totodeinhere

(13,057 posts)
23. I do not think that they should dial it down.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:46 PM
Mar 2022

If ever a country needed regime change it is Russia. Why is the White House so timid?

Response to totodeinhere (Reply #23)

wnylib

(21,346 posts)
47. Not timidity. Just clarification that
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 05:18 PM
Mar 2022

the US and NATO will not invade Russia to do it.

The line about Putin was meant for the Russian people. They are the ones to act on it.

totodeinhere

(13,057 posts)
48. Of course President Biden did not suggest that Russia be invaded.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 05:43 PM
Mar 2022

But from news reports I am seeing the White House is backtracking even on the idea of a regime change. And if George Bush was allowed to call for regime change in Iraq why can't President Biden do the same about Russia?

wnylib

(21,346 posts)
49. Iraq doesn't have nukes.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 05:47 PM
Mar 2022

And Bush's unwarranted war in Iraq gave us a bad international rep. Turned nations against us. We want unity now.

Response to colorado_ufo (Reply #29)

Kablooie

(18,612 posts)
19. Maybe the claims of Russias FSB turning on Putin are true.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:35 PM
Mar 2022

I wouldn’t think Biden would say this unless he had information that Putin’s downfall was imminent..

sciencescience

(109 posts)
21. I see the administration walked that comment back now. That's a pretty bad gaffe.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:43 PM
Mar 2022

I'm sure the Russians will use this as propaganda.

SunSeeker

(51,523 posts)
25. CNN is hyperventilating, reporting it as "Biden calling for removal of Putin."
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:50 PM
Mar 2022

Apparently CNN interpeted that line as Biden ordering our military to assassinate Putin.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
27. No doubt the last line will get the most attention, and agreement too!
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 03:58 PM
Mar 2022


The Kremlin’s response is ironic and hilarious: the Russian president should only be a choice of the people of the Russian federation, as if they have a democracy.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
37. I hope Biden stands by his statement. He said what most of the world thinks and wants.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 04:50 PM
Mar 2022

Would anyone have been shocked in WWII id Churchill or Roosevelt had said that Hitler could not remain in power? No. Putin may not have murdered as many people as Hitler, but he is just as evil. And the only way to bring peace to Ukraine and the other countries Putin wants for his Russian Empire is to get Putin out of power. No one is safe until he is gone.

mvd

(65,165 posts)
51. He's saying what so many of us feel!
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 05:52 PM
Mar 2022

I can’t find any fault here. I thought it was a landmark speech.

liberalla

(9,227 posts)
56. Thank you so much for posting this speech! This whole thread is great!
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 07:01 PM
Mar 2022

That was not a gaffe. If you consider a gaffe to be a mistake--this was not one of those!
It was artfully submitted for consideration... consideration that I hope those who are able to act, will be moved to act upon.


Maraya1969

(22,464 posts)
57. How do we get Putin out of power?
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 04:16 AM
Mar 2022

It’s a serious question. Is there any way another country can get him out or take him down?

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
60. I think it just states the obvious. Putin has forever burned bridges
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 05:55 AM
Mar 2022

We--the world--cannot normalize relations with Russia as long as Putin is its leader. Look at what he's done in Ukraine. He has killed thousands of civilians, he has displaced millions, he has destroyed its infestructure. The collective world has spent probably over a trillion dollars to stop him. This action has disrupted the world economy. I could go on.

There are some things that can't be forgiven.

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