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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPresident Biden: "For God's sake, this man cannot remain in power."
The worlds democracies must remain in absolute unity.
"It's Vladimir Putin who's to blame, period."
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FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)KPN
(15,638 posts)dalton99a
(81,406 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)ChazII
(6,203 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)While Putin is firing missiles at Lviv, Biden reiterates the Russian people are not the enemy.
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Srkdqltr
(6,234 posts)Set him up to see Kiev and other cities. I can here Biden say " I dare you, take your wife and kids, your parents" "I dare you". See if your attitude changes.
PatSeg
(47,285 posts)Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)hlthe2b
(102,141 posts)Alhena
(3,030 posts)I'm not saying it was a gaffe as a matter of my opinion, but because his own staff had to rush to the media afterwards and clarify that what he said wasn't what he actually meant.
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I'm not a fan of throwing gasoline on the fire of this situation, but, even if you are a fan of Biden's words, it's still a gaffe because he went off script and had to have his staff walk back his words. Not a good day for Biden, imo- it's easy to understand him becoming emotional after meeting with refugees, but what if Russia moves to their version of Defcon 3 because of this speech? What exactly will that have accomplished?
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)FalloutShelter
(11,837 posts)Joe said the quiet part out loud and then sent out the staff to walk it back for plausible deniability.
COL Mustard
(5,871 posts)This is 3-D chess that TFG's fans used to claim he was playing. TFG can't even play checkers. I doubt he can play jacks!
wnylib
(21,346 posts)orangecrush
(19,434 posts)Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)Hekate
(90,565 posts)Just think on that
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David__77
(23,335 posts)The policy of non-military engagement has been clear and consistent with all actions.
Joinfortmill
(14,397 posts)BlueNProud
(1,048 posts)wnylib
(21,346 posts)gulliver
(13,168 posts)I don't think these are "whoops" moments, nor are they gaffes. I think Biden puts these true statements out there to get them out there. He told the Russian people he is with them, and they aren't the enemy. He wants to make it clear that Putin's the only thing causing problems.
COL Mustard
(5,871 posts)A war criminal to remain in power. But any change has to come from within Russia, or all hell will break loose.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)erronis
(15,185 posts)Hekate
(90,565 posts)🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻
yaesu
(8,020 posts)and if tRump had dictator powers like pootie he would have the US fighting right along with pootie.
Emile
(22,508 posts)Maybe all the countries could pitch in and make it a huge payout.
totodeinhere
(13,057 posts)and claiming that the president was not calling for regime change.
gulliver
(13,168 posts)The message has been delivered by President Biden himself in a historic, courageous, eloquent, memorable way. Of course, the White House will dial it down after. That's their job.
totodeinhere
(13,057 posts)If ever a country needed regime change it is Russia. Why is the White House so timid?
L. Coyote
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wnylib
(21,346 posts)the US and NATO will not invade Russia to do it.
The line about Putin was meant for the Russian people. They are the ones to act on it.
totodeinhere
(13,057 posts)But from news reports I am seeing the White House is backtracking even on the idea of a regime change. And if George Bush was allowed to call for regime change in Iraq why can't President Biden do the same about Russia?
wnylib
(21,346 posts)And Bush's unwarranted war in Iraq gave us a bad international rep. Turned nations against us. We want unity now.
colorado_ufo
(5,730 posts)Let's just keep the insane monster at the helm.
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Kablooie
(18,612 posts)I wouldnt think Biden would say this unless he had information that Putins downfall was imminent..
sciencescience
(109 posts)I'm sure the Russians will use this as propaganda.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Baked Potato
(7,733 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)SunSeeker
(51,523 posts)Apparently CNN interpeted that line as Biden ordering our military to assassinate Putin.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Link to tweet
The Kremlins response is ironic and hilarious: the Russian president should only be a choice of the people of the Russian federation, as if they have a democracy.
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BigmanPigman
(51,569 posts)Hekate
(90,565 posts)Cha
(296,889 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)Would anyone have been shocked in WWII id Churchill or Roosevelt had said that Hitler could not remain in power? No. Putin may not have murdered as many people as Hitler, but he is just as evil. And the only way to bring peace to Ukraine and the other countries Putin wants for his Russian Empire is to get Putin out of power. No one is safe until he is gone.
dalton99a
(81,406 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)mvd
(65,165 posts)I cant find any fault here. I thought it was a landmark speech.
bluestarone
(16,872 posts)It was the WHOLE TRUTH!!!
liberalla
(9,227 posts)That was not a gaffe. If you consider a gaffe to be a mistake--this was not one of those!
It was artfully submitted for consideration... consideration that I hope those who are able to act, will be moved to act upon.
Maraya1969
(22,464 posts)Its a serious question. Is there any way another country can get him out or take him down?
Emile
(22,508 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)We--the world--cannot normalize relations with Russia as long as Putin is its leader. Look at what he's done in Ukraine. He has killed thousands of civilians, he has displaced millions, he has destroyed its infestructure. The collective world has spent probably over a trillion dollars to stop him. This action has disrupted the world economy. I could go on.
There are some things that can't be forgiven.