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EsquireThe beauty of Republicans pulling the battering ram out to get Amy Coney Barrett on the Court in almost comic disregard of their previously stated principles regarding the appointment of Supreme Court justices in an election year was that Trump no longer needed RINO Chief Justice John Roberts, who seems to still harbor some concern for the legitimacy of the Supreme Court as an institution. Like it or not, Notorious R.B.G. fans, but this is part of her legacy. When you play the Game of Robes, you resign under a normal president or you wait long enough to hand over your seat to The Windmill Guy.
Speaking of which, Ol' Donny Windmills is, if we can believe a word of what his erstwhile ally Congressman Mo Brooks has to say, even farther off his rocker than could once be imagined. The two had a falling out where Trump withdrew his endorsement of Brooks in the Alabama Republican senate primary, probably because Brooks is floundering in the polls. Some payback for the kind of friend who wears body armor to your pre-riot shindig and tells the frothing crowd, "Today is the day American patriots start taking down names and kicking ass. Now, our ancestors sacrificed their blood, their sweat, their tears, their fortunes and sometimes their lives Are you willing to do the same? My answer is yes. Louder! Are you willing to do what it takes to fight for America?"
pandr32
(11,420 posts)Baitball Blogger
(46,535 posts)And we all know that was an abuse of the Courts power. May all those already departed conservative judges burn in hell.
MineralMan
(146,116 posts)It was a bridge too far.
exboyfil
(17,853 posts)Can anyone say Grover Cleveland.
Right now the Democrats have all the accountability but not nearly the authority that a "majority" should represent in the Executive and Legislative branch. I can already hearing the no accomplishments mantra the GOP will. 2022 might be a blow out and a prelude to a truly dark age.
If it had been one state instead of three states that needed to be flipped, it might very well have worked. Arizona and the Nebraska Congressional district upset the narrative on election night. Georgia was a late bonus.
If he was able to concentrate all his minions on Pennsylvania or Wisconsin, I think it would have worked.
MineralMan
(146,116 posts)Few are heeding the warnings that there is still a full blown insurrection raging in the US.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,780 posts)The Constitution allows it, and if a state like Pennsylvania or Wisco votes Blue, their legislatures will not care.
Ant then the right to vote Blue will likely disappear.
Boomerproud
(7,875 posts)I remember him saying that while sitting behind the desk in the Oval Office. The height of narcissism.
Hugin
(32,683 posts)Which has never been thoroughly investigated IMHO He figured he had a lifetime ticket to ride. The Handmaid was a gimme.
h2ebits
(626 posts)Protection for his son who worked at Deutsche Bank if I remember correctly??
Hugin
(32,683 posts)And seeing how they are still doing business with the oligarchy. A timely lookieloo, too.
Bobstandard
(1,264 posts)Jack Holmes is the author and deserves to be credited.
brush
(53,333 posts)I don't think they thought trump would lose the election.
dajoki
(10,678 posts)And I truly believe they are planning to try it again in 2024, which is one of the reasons they have been stealing court seats. With all the election subversion laws being passed in red states it will have a better chance of success the next time.
90% of the efforts in 2020 were merely tests of the system to figure out what laws needed to be changed/created to allow them to dictate the results of the next one, regardless of how the voters actually vote.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,780 posts)I think the plan will be to set up the Republican party like the PRI was in Mexico. There is legal opposition, but it's really difficult for them to get anything meaningful done.
Kaleva
(36,094 posts)Algernon Moncrieff
(5,780 posts)Kaleva
(36,094 posts)and not so often with Ailto and Thomas who are the darlings of the Magahats.
Maybe if I have time, I'll come up with a list of quotes over at FR disparaging the two.
BWdem4life
(1,597 posts)She DIED. How exactly was she supposed to know (1) that Repukes wouldn't block her replacement under Obama like they did Scalia's? 2) that Trump would even be elected? (3) that if he was, she wouldn't live long enough to prevent him from nominating her replacement?
Jack Holmes should be ashamed of himself. Hindsight is 20/20, and there are PLENTY of bad actors (and good people who made mistakes) that combined to cause the Barrett fiasco. Pinning it on RBG is probably one of the worst things I've ever seen written.
GB_RN
(2,263 posts)Given her age and her prior history of both colon and pancreatic cancer, the chances of living through the tRump administration were statistically unlikely from the beginning. Thats not hindsight, its actuarial data science. No insurance company on the planet would have taken that bet; not even Lloyds of London, which is (in)famous for insuring strange/expensive/high risk things.
Justice Ginsburg knew her risks and should have at least been aware of the odds of her living through one more administration, D or R. Only she could have taken the steps to avoid the eventual outcome at a point where we would have had a guaranteed replacement.
IIRC, Obama had tried to talk her into resigning while he could appoint her replacement, but she fully rebuffed him.
That being said, Im not going to disparage her legacy by jumping up and down over her refusal to resign when we/I think she should have: Its done and theres nothing we can do to undo it. We have to move on.
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L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)If you can steal an election once ......
She could not have known Trump would be elected. And it was not certainly not her failure that he was elected. The author is besmirching her legacy for no good reason. Furthermore, he is being condescending and patronizing to her: "When you play the Game of Robes..." Oh, is that what she was doing? Playing a game?
She felt able to continue and wanted to continue, and made a positive difference during those years. Nobody can say who her replacement might have been or what that person might have done. Given the climate, though, certainly the Senate would not have confirmed anyone as liberal as she was. McConnell might have even been bold enough to block a replacement nominee for years. Guaranteed replacement? No such thing these days.
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hay rick
(7,495 posts)Sad but true. Some hubris in the decision to try to gut it out for 4 more years in a job she loved and did well- but with obvious risk to the republic.
Skittles
(152,918 posts)sucks
BWdem4life
(1,597 posts)if it's ok to demean her character here after her death.
Skittles
(152,918 posts)whatever......
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,780 posts)She's a great lady. No one here would disagree.
The decision not to leave when Obama was President and we had the Senate, however, was not very bright.
BWdem4life
(1,597 posts)Saying she put her needs above the country's is something completely different.