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kpete

(71,983 posts)
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 04:39 PM Mar 2022

About time - Biden to Propose Billionaire's Tax

“The White House will unveil a new minimum tax targeting billionaires as part of its 2023 budget Monday, proposing a direct tax on the richest 700 Americans for the first time,” the Washington Post reports.

“Many of America’s billionaires can pay far lower tax rates than average Americans because the federal government does not tax the increase in the value of their stock holdings until those assets are sold. Billionaires are able to borrow against their accumulated gains without triggering taxes on capital gains, enabling huge accumulations of wealth to go virtually untaxed by the federal government.”

https://politicalwire.com/2022/03/26/biden-to-propose-billionaires-tax/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2022/03/26/billionaire-tax-budget-biden/?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&location=alert&wpmk=1&wpisrc=al_news__alert-politics--alert-national&pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YSIsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNTk2Y2U0M2ZhZGU0ZTI0MTE5ZDhkMjU0IiwidGFnIjoid3BfbmV3c19hbGVydF9yZXZlcmUiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vdXMtcG9saWN5LzIwMjIvMDMvMjYvYmlsbGlvbmFpcmUtdGF4LWJ1ZGdldC1iaWRlbi8_dXRtX3NvdXJjZT1hbGVydCZ1dG1fbWVkaXVtPWVtYWlsJnV0bV9jYW1wYWlnbj13cF9uZXdzX2FsZXJ0X3JldmVyZSZsb2NhdGlvbj1hbGVydCZ3cG1rPTEmd3Bpc3JjPWFsX25ld3NfX2FsZXJ0LXBvbGl0aWNzLS1hbGVydC1uYXRpb25hbCJ9.9pcZEvD4iawQVj3mYQCy2N4UsZLF-sDzl_rucHoQnXc

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About time - Biden to Propose Billionaire's Tax (Original Post) kpete Mar 2022 OP
Wanna bet Republicans will scream....UNFAIR! ProudMNDemocrat Mar 2022 #1
It's about time, for sure. They are not paying their fair share, AT ALL. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2022 #2
Its both "about time" and "good timing " Tetrachloride Mar 2022 #3
In a just newdayneeded Mar 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #5
Fabulous! The wealth disparity in this country is appalling. Glad Pres. Joe is going to do Maraya1969 Mar 2022 #6
Appears the tax will raise about $36 Billion per year. I think that works out to about 14 days Hoyt Mar 2022 #7
Every journey begins with initial steps. Torchlight Mar 2022 #17
So, are you arguing against the proposal? Nt spooky3 Mar 2022 #21
You obviously missed the point. It raises very little. It's not enough to do anything substantial. Hoyt Mar 2022 #34
I didn't miss your point. I asked you a reasonable question. Nt spooky3 Mar 2022 #37
SNAP spending in 2020 was about 80billion I think - imagine an NoMoreRepugs Mar 2022 #28
Thank you. (nt) Pinback Mar 2022 #30
It won't increase such spending Kaleva Mar 2022 #33
I swear to Dog, people just can't see it's a drop in the bucket. Not to mention, it uses up a silver Hoyt Mar 2022 #36
It rasises practically nothing. It won't do anything substantial. We need more, a lot more to Hoyt Mar 2022 #35
The White House will unveil a new minimum tax targeting billionaires LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #8
Good! Baked Potato Mar 2022 #9
What I Have Been Saying For Years DanieRains Mar 2022 #10
Do they get to deduct if any of their stocks go down in value? marie999 Mar 2022 #23
A start, but I hate to see the millionaires left out! summer_in_TX Mar 2022 #11
This SCOTUS ought to shoot it down. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2022 #12
Symbolic. WarGamer Mar 2022 #13
KnR Hekate Mar 2022 #14
Remember back when the poor got a break? A long, long time ago! Ziggysmom Mar 2022 #15
Only three Democratic Senators voted against the Tax Reform Act of 1986. former9thward Mar 2022 #38
Here's what I'm seeing on this thread and elsewhere mcar Mar 2022 #16
That is business as usual here and on any online discussion group. Tommymac Mar 2022 #24
Oh they will go samplegirl Mar 2022 #18
Any dollar over $100M Jerry2144 Mar 2022 #19
Why does anyone think that will trickle down to us? n/t leftstreet Mar 2022 #20
Nice ColinC Mar 2022 #22
It appears that Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders gab13by13 Mar 2022 #25
Good. That's a great start. Much as I'd like to see more, this is KPN Mar 2022 #26
Throw in a windfall tax too. I'm game for that. mwooldri Mar 2022 #27
It's long past time their stacking the deck game got curtailed, even a little. lambchopp59 Mar 2022 #29
When the rebubs howl, just call them Oligarch apologists. Jakes Progress Mar 2022 #31
Will NEVER happen.....until we get a super majority in BOTH houses of Congress. Hulk Mar 2022 #32
Billionaire tax resonates well, round the world, with the russian OLIGARCHES! empedocles Mar 2022 #39

Response to kpete (Original post)

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
6. Fabulous! The wealth disparity in this country is appalling. Glad Pres. Joe is going to do
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 04:53 PM
Mar 2022

something about it.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. Appears the tax will raise about $36 Billion per year. I think that works out to about 14 days
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 05:01 PM
Mar 2022

of our current budget deficit.

Point is, ain't gonna help much.

Torchlight

(3,324 posts)
17. Every journey begins with initial steps.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 06:08 PM
Mar 2022

It often appears those steps, being so far away from the ultimate ain't gonna help much, but every step getting there is a critical step.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
34. You obviously missed the point. It raises very little. It's not enough to do anything substantial.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 09:47 PM
Mar 2022

NoMoreRepugs

(9,410 posts)
28. SNAP spending in 2020 was about 80billion I think - imagine an
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 06:45 PM
Mar 2022

extra $36billion to feed the countries hungry.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
33. It won't increase such spending
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 07:18 PM
Mar 2022

It will make a reduction in the annual deficit.

If the nation had a balanced budget, which it doesn't, then there could be extra money available to spend on programs like SNAP

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
36. I swear to Dog, people just can't see it's a drop in the bucket. Not to mention, it uses up a silver
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 09:50 PM
Mar 2022

bullet-- taxing the wealthy.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
35. It rasises practically nothing. It won't do anything substantial. We need more, a lot more to
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 09:49 PM
Mar 2022

fund healthcare, jobs, education, war, etc.

So don't go expecting anything big.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,110 posts)
12. This SCOTUS ought to shoot it down.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 05:59 PM
Mar 2022

But if Dems are smart they'll point out that this particular SCOTUS is anti-working class.

WarGamer

(12,430 posts)
13. Symbolic.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 06:00 PM
Mar 2022

I appreciate the effort and attention BUT

That's a drop in the bucket.

A wealth tax needs to start around $5M net worth.

Maybe it'd only be 0.5% at $5M NW and scaling up from there but they must pay taxes... annually.

Ziggysmom

(3,406 posts)
15. Remember back when the poor got a break? A long, long time ago!
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 06:04 PM
Mar 2022

Credit card interest and other forms of personal interest were deductible on income taxes some years ago, but Congress eliminated those deductions in the Tax Reform Act of 1986.

Good old Ronny Reagan put the screws to the poor who are more likely to have debt. If you don't own a home, and can't access mortgage or home equity interest deductions, or you should be allowed to deduct consumer interest.

mcar

(42,300 posts)
16. Here's what I'm seeing on this thread and elsewhere
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 06:05 PM
Mar 2022

from people who have been advocating for this for a long time:

"Meh." "Not good enough." "A drop in the bucket."

During the midterm year, I frequently say, on this board and elsewhere, that there is voter suppression going on.

It pains me to see phrases that can lead to voter apathy right here - again.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
24. That is business as usual here and on any online discussion group.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 06:14 PM
Mar 2022

All we can do is stay positive, pass those positive vibes around and keep pushing to #GOTV2022



Jerry2144

(2,099 posts)
19. Any dollar over $100M
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 06:09 PM
Mar 2022

Per year, earned our gains should be taxed at 100%. Those oligarchs have too much money and are too greedy.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
26. Good. That's a great start. Much as I'd like to see more, this is
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 06:25 PM
Mar 2022

really good to hear. We have a President who gets the inequities in our federal tax structure and is willing to do something about it. I’m sure Joe will do more if and when the opportunity presents itself.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
27. Throw in a windfall tax too. I'm game for that.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 06:35 PM
Mar 2022

Those who created obscene profits out of the pandemic and now out of oil prices... Tax it

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
32. Will NEVER happen.....until we get a super majority in BOTH houses of Congress.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 07:18 PM
Mar 2022

Hate to be a pessimist, but I think I'm a realist in respect to anything dealing with tax issues. We will be lucky to hang on to our Social Security and current skimpy tax code that treats billionaires like the poor. We are stuck with such idiots as manchin and senema, and there are others who also have a thin soul when it comes to their own greed.

It should be a 90% tax rate over a million...but we are talking about income over millionS, and there are so many loop holes in the tax code now, that the wealthy are going to get away with murder...thanks in great part to the sock-puppet reagan and his diabolical cabal of thieves. We are stuck...until our federal government has a majority who really give a shit.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
39. Billionaire tax resonates well, round the world, with the russian OLIGARCHES!
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 11:44 AM
Mar 2022

Resonate right back to the traitortrump plan to bribe the richest in trump's WH opportunities time.

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