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blue-wave

(4,352 posts)
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 06:31 PM Mar 2022

Russians cannibalize their own tanks

Last edited Sat Mar 26, 2022, 10:13 PM - Edit history (1)

Here's my take on this: The tanks in long term storage were stripped of parts, likely due to theft and corruption in the Russian military. Only 1 in 10 tanks in storage are able to be pieced together again and placed in action. The situation is so bad that one tank commander committed suicide, likely due to pressure from above.

This is the Russia Putin created. He has kept the masses so downtrodden through his own theft and that of the oligarchs that the masses must resort to theft to survive, so they steal military parts. The dictator has no clothes because of his own stupidity.


https://www.reddit.com/r/ukraine/comments/tolx0c/according_to_available_information_the_commander/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3


Translation: (from the comment section)

Main Intelligence Directorate of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine reports:

The occupiers are trying to recover losses from equipment removed from long-term storage. In particular, at the airfield in Klimovo village of Bryansk region (35 km from the border of Ukraine) the enemy is deploying a repair and rehabilitation base (RBB). Currently, the enemy RVB is trying to "put into operation" a significant amount of equipment coming from long-term storage facilities. The condition of this equipment is mostly extremely unsatisfactory, which makes its full use impossible.

At the same time, places are created for storing equipment that has been disabled on the battlefield.

In general, the Russian Federation often faces the problem of the impossibility of restoring equipment after "deconservation" from warehouses. Optical devices and electronics containing precious metals were completely stolen from the combat vehicles.

In particular, the 4th Panzer Division of the Russian Federation found out that out of 10 "canned" tanks, only one is in a more or less operational condition. The rest are completely dismantled. Some of them do not even have engines. At present, plans to transfer equipment taken from storage to the front have actually been thwarted.

According to available information - the commander of the 13th tank regiment of the 4th tank division of the Russian Federation - shot himself.


On edit: With all those in the comments questioning the reliability of this information, I did a quick search and added a few links below discussing this same situation. And before you snark me about the Daily Mail link, I know it's a British right leaning publication, but it is doubtful they would print this kind of info as some sort of misinformation.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10655501/Ukraine-claims-Russian-tank-commander-killed-reserve-tanks-unserivcable.html


https://ukranews.com/en/news/844321-commander-of-tank-regiment-of-russia-shot-himself-defense-ministry-intelligence

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NickB79

(19,236 posts)
2. What else has been stolen from Russian weapons systems over the years?
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 07:34 PM
Mar 2022

"Hey Dmitri, why is there no nuclear warhead in this ICBM?"

Baked Potato

(7,733 posts)
3. Top to bottom corruption. Hollow, untrained, undisciplined military.
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 08:27 PM
Mar 2022

No loyalty.

Just what T***p dreamed of for him and his cronies.

sarisataka

(18,649 posts)
4. I have to question that translation
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 08:35 PM
Mar 2022

Panzer is a German word and no Russian unit would ever be designated with it. I also can think of no reason why Ukrainians would use it while referring to a Russian unit.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
5. The unit's real name is 4th Guards Tank Division
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 08:43 PM
Mar 2022

"Guards" is an honorific given for especially high performance during the "Great Patriotic War," which Americans know as World War II.

blue-wave

(4,352 posts)
6. I don't know who translated
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 08:59 PM
Mar 2022

Maybe a German citizen or a German war buff? I tried to copy and paste to google translate, but no luck. Anyway, people translate documents and these people are from many different origins and with different life experiences, it doesn't mean the gist of the translation is wrong.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
10. K&R, also Russian military in Russia are seen as bottom of the rung socially to the point they are
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 11:14 PM
Mar 2022

... derided by the public.

They have ... NO ... reverence for professional warriors in Russia, NONE.

The Russian mafia connected to Putrid walks all over them seeing the Russian mafia is closer to Putrid than the military is who Putrid keeps at arms length less they come together for a coup.

This is the scene of most dictators these days; they're CONSTANTLY sKeered shitless of anyone who could upend them.

NJCher

(35,667 posts)
11. if you read the comments
Sat Mar 26, 2022, 11:39 PM
Mar 2022

at the thread, it is just very, very sad. Sad for soldiers, sad for any country that needs an army.

Sad for people who are so impoverished by theft that they have to steal.

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