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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 03:17 AM Mar 2022

More Russian insanity: "Denazify" Poland, the Baltics, Moldova and Kazakhstan

Meanwhile in #Russia: Deputy of the Moscow City Duma Sergei Savostyanov proposed for Russia to expand its so-called "military operation" and "denazify" Poland, the Baltics, Moldova and Kazakhstan.





Ok Sergei, we'll give you a helmet, gun and uniform and you get right on it, dude. Ready to fight NATO troops ?
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More Russian insanity: "Denazify" Poland, the Baltics, Moldova and Kazakhstan (Original Post) steve2470 Mar 2022 OP
They ant to go back to the ways of the USSR sakabatou Mar 2022 #1
I wonder if Sergei is willing to be the first one to invade Polish territory DFW Mar 2022 #2
Putin Roy Rolling Mar 2022 #10
Classic case of Projection. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2022 #3
Putin's state media, disinformation campaign is working. brush Mar 2022 #4
Considering the "fine" performance of the Russian military Sherman A1 Mar 2022 #5
This must be so confusing for many. Behind the Aegis Mar 2022 #6
Russia's answer to..... SergeStorms Mar 2022 #7
First thought into my head when I read the orginal post. Geeze, there are more of them. Biophilic Mar 2022 #13
My first thought also Strelnikov_ Mar 2022 #19
Backpfeifengesicht! NBachers Mar 2022 #8
Is this a new definition of 'nazi'? Aussie105 Mar 2022 #9
When you have nukes Dirty Socialist Mar 2022 #11
American style Republicanism is alive and well in Russia. gordianot Mar 2022 #12
I have no idea how this is going to end. Russians should be Emile Mar 2022 #14
Hitler Made The Same Mistake modrepub Mar 2022 #15
Kazakhstan? EYESORE 9001 Mar 2022 #16
Kazakhstan didn't send soldiers when Putin asked for help in Ukraine. Igel Mar 2022 #18
He is the king of bad advice. sky_masterson Mar 2022 #17
More huffing and puffing and we're going to blow your house down peggysue2 Mar 2022 #20
He's sucking up to Putin, hoping to be next oligarch. nt Ilsa Mar 2022 #21
Pathetic and laughable hubris at this point Downtown Hound Mar 2022 #22

DFW

(54,370 posts)
2. I wonder if Sergei is willing to be the first one to invade Polish territory
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 03:42 AM
Mar 2022

The Poles seemed pretty happy when 40 years of Russian domination ended in 1989. I know quite a few people there, and have worked with their government before. I don’t recall seeing any Nazis, just a nation struggling to recover from 40 years of Russian style socialism—something the people were already pretty adept at end-running the first time their government invited me for a visit in the pre-1989 days.

This “de-nazifying” language is no more than “we need an excuse to attack you.” If any one is fooled by that they must live in a Buddhist monastery in the Himalayas that has had no contact with the outside world since the Carter administration.

Roy Rolling

(6,917 posts)
10. Putin
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 05:51 AM
Mar 2022

He thinks the world agrees with him because he reads it on the Internet—the pro-Russian propaganda he generates himself.

Problem is, in 2022 Poland has Internet, too and it’s a different playing field from the “glory days” of the USSR. There’s no way he can convince Polish citizens a Russian invasion is beneficial to them without a controlled media as on 1950.

So that ship has sailed, Elvis has left the building, the horse has left the barn, or one of the dozens of analogies available in a free information environment.

But I don’t have a personal F-22 so I depend on my government to control the out-of-control. And the world is stepping up to isolate and oppose Putin. Which leaves him a binary decision: give Russia a reason to save face and withdraw, or he/Russia will blow himself up, too, to spite the whole world for opposing him. .

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,112 posts)
3. Classic case of Projection.
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 04:09 AM
Mar 2022

Puty himself said when Russians' exodus occurred in the past weeks it would purify the country. That comrade, is Nazi talk.

brush

(53,776 posts)
4. Putin's state media, disinformation campaign is working.
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 05:14 AM
Mar 2022

The dumb, low-info fucks think they're winning in Ukraine so they should keep going.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
5. Considering the "fine" performance of the Russian military
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 05:37 AM
Mar 2022

In their current “special operation” Sergei might want to ponder 🤔 this a bit more. He might want to do this, he might even want to go himself, but there isn’t much of an available or functional army to follow.

Behind the Aegis

(53,956 posts)
6. This must be so confusing for many.
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 05:37 AM
Mar 2022

Certain supporters of Russia are nothing more than Nazis themselves, so messages like this must make their little brains short circuit. The other supporters of Russia are loving this because "de-Nazify" is code for certain groups of people and if they get rid of "the Nazis" the only ones 'left' will be people they actually give two shits about and their attitudes might change.

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
7. Russia's answer to.....
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 05:39 AM
Mar 2022

Josh Hawley.

Isn't it uncanny how Russia has a wing-nut whack-job to match every fascist republican asshole we have here in the U.S.?

It's like they manufactured two of every dip-shit and sent one to each country to balance out the evil scumbags on the planet. If the earth had both copies of the evil scumbags in one place, the earth's orbit would wobble uncontrollably and hurl the planet into the void of space.

The solution is to rid the planet of both evil scumbags, thus assuring planet earth's stability.

Does that make sense to anyone but myself?

Biophilic

(3,651 posts)
13. First thought into my head when I read the orginal post. Geeze, there are more of them.
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 06:17 AM
Mar 2022

I think your solution is excellent, if only we could.

Strelnikov_

(7,772 posts)
19. My first thought also
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 09:48 AM
Mar 2022

Vying for promotion to all the caporegime positions that are opening up due to the previous capo's dipping their beak into the defense budget without giving the boss a taste.

Even starting to appear that the underboss position has opened up.


I would watch out walking near tall buildings in Russia for the time being.

Aussie105

(5,395 posts)
9. Is this a new definition of 'nazi'?
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 05:48 AM
Mar 2022

Anyone not under the control of Putin's government?

Or just a code word to hide some sort of racism we in the rest of the world aren't up to speed on?

But go ahead, NATO is watching.

Go on, try to "denazify" Poland, the Baltics, Moldova and Kazakhstan and see what happens.

Next minute . . . NATO forces push Russian forces back to the Russian border, and keep going, all the way to Moscow.

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
12. American style Republicanism is alive and well in Russia.
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 06:03 AM
Mar 2022

This is the same type of inane delusion you get from QUANON.

Emile

(22,715 posts)
14. I have no idea how this is going to end. Russians should be
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 06:27 AM
Mar 2022

thinking about overthrowing their government before something really awful happens!

modrepub

(3,495 posts)
15. Hitler Made The Same Mistake
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 07:24 AM
Mar 2022

He never took the USSR very seriously. He was convinced that the country was dominated by Jews, Judeo–Bolshevism, and would fold almost immediately once German troops began their invasion

At the beginning, German troops brushed aside their Soviet counterparts and Nazi units came in behind them and began exterminating any Jews they could find (by firing squad). Captured Soviet soldiers were used to build and expand the first concentration camps; worked until they died. This was all according to Hitler's grand vision of securing land for an expanding German Empire and Aryan race. While other races could be considered less offensive than Jews, they were looked upon by the Nazis as nothing more than cattle at best, potential threats to the Aryan race at worst. Anyone without German blood in their veins was not going to be treated with any speck of humanity. This was a war of annihilation. And the Soviets soon figured this out, rallied and took their retribution against the Germans.

Putin's words and vision, of a restored Russian heritage and dominance, has echoes of centuries of race based superiority. I guess to me it's kind of depressing that this type of thinking still has a lot of supporters across the globe (including many in this country).

EYESORE 9001

(25,936 posts)
16. Kazakhstan?
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 07:25 AM
Mar 2022

If pootie is trying to instigate a religious war on Russia’s border - one that will attract Muslim fighters from all over the world - he seems to be succeeding.

Igel

(35,300 posts)
18. Kazakhstan didn't send soldiers when Putin asked for help in Ukraine.
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 09:38 AM
Mar 2022

There's also a large Russian-speaking population that is not being adequately considered superior to Kazakhs; Kazakhs are failing to properly assimilate at this time, or show subservience to their minority pop.

That makes them naZis.

sky_masterson

(416 posts)
17. He is the king of bad advice.
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 07:34 AM
Mar 2022

A move like that would destroy Russia.
Hell, arent they already through half of their Cruise Missile stockpile.
Nato would crush Russia in days.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
20. More huffing and puffing and we're going to blow your house down
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 10:09 AM
Mar 2022

This is more deliberate hyperbole, another breast-beating moment from the Russians. Medvedev came out as well to remind the world once again that Russia has nukes and that they would use them if Russia faced an existential threat (translated: any threat to Putin and his wise guys).

I was reading Garry Kasparov's twitter thread. He said this is standard Russian postering--over-hype so the West starts to hyper-ventilate, wring its multinational hands and self-defer on any action with teeth. According to Putin giving Ukraine weapons is an act of war. Applying sanctions is an act of war. Talking straight is an act of war etc., etc., etc. He wants to define the war with Ukraine, not the West. He wants to set the narrative, and he wants to rattle the nuclear option warning so the world backs off.

His biggest problem is that his invasion of a sovereign nation is being captured in streaming images.

The world is watching this time. We see what he's doing.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
22. Pathetic and laughable hubris at this point
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 12:41 PM
Mar 2022

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Russia can't even take a few Ukrainian cities. Forget about taking the whole country at this point, they can't even take a few cities. And these jokers are acting like they're going to plow through the Baltics, and through NATO in the process? Hilarious!

Russia's like that drunk asshole at the bar that was starting shit with people all night, and then picked on the wrong person and got his ass kicked. And then when he finally gets up, his face dripping blood and holding his teeth in his hands, says something stupid like, "Who else wants some?"

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