For the "Democrats need to do better at messaging" crowd

[tenderfoot]

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1508046232740151298.html

[Sherman A1]

1. Wasn't aware these programs were still on the air

But then I really don’t bother with corporate drivel.

[uponit7771]

16. The fractured M$M isn't the only player in getting a message out. We need Stacy Abrahams ground game

... in CoC which would yield greater votes per effort than trying to win middle of the ground mostly white voters.

DNC needs to look at these things seriously and get out of beltway think that DO NOT gravitate towards concerns of CoC.

[PatSeg]

23. Yes, I quit watching the Sunday shows

years ago. I do recall that even back then, there were more republican guests than Democratic guests. Hard to believe that it has gotten worse, not better.

[nycbos]

2. Why aren't Democrats pushing back then?

[tenderfoot]

4. How do you know they aren't?

[Scrivener7]

10. Have YOU seen pushback? If there were some, we here probably would know about it.

Your OP is what is informing me about this issue. And your OP is based on a tweet. That's not us getting the message out.

Your OP really proves the point that we need to be better at messaging.

[mcar]

12. Media would have to report on it

and the media is doing this.

[uponit7771]

14. Democrats would be reporting on it if they were pushing back to the degree of alarm it needs.

[House of Roberts]

3. Bob Schieffer left and took the integrity with him.

Face the Nation strains credibility since.

[uponit7771]

17. Per the 2020 postmortems dems need Stacy Abrahams outreach in CoC not more pressense on TV

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/07/election-report-sends-democrats-warning-outreach-voters-color/7585820002/

[Rebl2]

26. So true

I don’t think he wanted to either. I rarely watch any of CBS news programming. Don’t watch those Sunday political shows any longer because they rarely push back on what republicans say.

[Archae]

5. This is one of the reasons I never watch those Sunday yak shows.

Blah blah blah...while really saying nothing.

[uponit7771]

18. Its not the Sunday shows that affect dems as much as lack Stacey of Abrahams like outreach to CoC

https://archive.ph/kkpwr#selection-1483.118-1487.144

Three Democratic groups — Third Way, the Collective PAC and Latino Victory Fund — recently released an after-report on the 2020 election. It is a comprehensive look at everything from the need to shore up support among African American voters, to ways to combat the “socialist” label, to polling failures, to the need for year-round investment in organizing (as Stacey Abrams did in Georgia).

and

For example, Democrats must monitor and be active in Spanish-language media where MAGA lies and conspiracy theories helped draw Latinos away from the Democrats. They need to double down on digital media rather than burn money on TV ads that fewer voters watch.

[doc03]

6. Hardball that show and Tweety went away a couple years ago I thought. It certainly isn't on

MSNBC at 7pm. Face the Nation I don't watch network TV didn't know that was still on. MSNBC and CNN to a lesser
degree have nearly all Democrats.

[BumRushDaShow]

9. Apparently this guy is a writer and producer of the Daily Show with Trevor Noah

https://muckrack.com/mattnegrin

And I am assuming the twitter account name is a parody one although what he tweeted is pretty much spot on.

The problem is that I expect that anyone who bothers to post on a discussion forum like DU is not the "average person" who doesn't live/breathe politics. I.e., they basically gets their "news" from a brief foray into their daily local newscasts, does the once a week peep in on the Sunday news shows for "national and international" (and will maybe watch "60 Minutes" if there is something intriguing being featured), and might read some of news published digitally on internet from major news/analysis outlets.

So as much as the non-cable broadcast networks whine about "viewership", they do capture a significant chunk of the population who are somewhat interested in and following "politics", but not to the extent that most do here.

[kacekwl]

7. What is the answer to the question were they invited

and declined or not invited ?

[doc03]

8. Republicans have a simpler message, 2nt Amendment, gays, illegals, abortion

and tax and spend. That sums up their message. While Democrats are tied up trying to explain what
an assault weapon is, Republicans just say Democrats are going to take your guns, case closed. and so on

[uponit7771]

13. +1, the dem messaging is twice as hard because we have to have coalitions of different people

... and each of those communities have to be reached by specific concern messages.

It can be done with Stacy Abrahams level ground games in CoC

[BumRushDaShow]

15. "While Democrats are tied up trying to explain what an assault weapon is"

Not quite. Some examples -

Democrats say "Climate change"
(which is actually stressing them out as they watch the results in the extreme weather destroying the homes in their red areas)

Democrats say "Raise the minimum wage"
(which is actually stressing them out because doing so cuts into the profits of their corporate masters)

Democrats say "Healthcare/Medicare for all"
(which is actually stressing them out to the point where they are still trying to torpedo the ACA and any semblance of government-sponsored healthcare including traditional Medicare)

The problem isn't "the message". The problem is NOT OWNING THE MICROPHONE to put forth that message. And if liberals/progressives did, then they would be excoriated because now they are considered nothing more than "big corporations" = "bad".

There have been quite a few liberal/progressive ads that have been the equivalent to what you are indicating like this -

But again, the bigger issue is media access because if your side is not "invited" (and unless you own the outlet, then you MUST be "invited" and can't just barge in because thanks to Raygun, the "Fairness Doctrine" was eliminated), then you can yell and pound the podium all you want but no camera will be there, no reporters will be there, and no broadcaster will be there to show it. And even when you search "Fairness Doctrine" on Google, the first results are usually RW drivel.

Liberals/progressives (and surely both Al Franken and Al Gore tried) have to not only be willing to buy/create outlets, but be willing to operate them FOR YEARS at a loss and consider that "loss" as a "donation to the cause" (which is how many of the RW outlets have operated including ilk like the Washington Times).

[Scrivener7]

19. Bull! They have simplified their message. We need to do the same

We simply haven't

That billionaire has his hand in your pocket is a compelling message. There are a thousands ways to say it.

[uponit7771]

11. ***DNC DOESN"T MESSAGING TO PEOPLE OF COLOR LIKE STACY ABRAHMS !!!***

I'm not going to let people strawman this issue like they have with AVL and voter suppression without saying something

Democrats are ***NOT*** running an A game when it comes t messaging and its to mostly people of color in the US.

Southwest Texas and Miami Dade in 2020 CANT NOT be blamed on the M$M, that was absences of Dem ground game.

The same resources used in garnering votes of mostly middle of the road white males can yield double if there were door to door ground games in communities of color proportionately.

Nope, dems have a messaging problem and only PART of it is the M$M blaming the M$M for the onus of the problem is whistling past the grave yard

[FakeNoose]

20. This is why my TV stays OFF on Sunday mornings

I have no reason to watch or listen to any of their garbage.

[gaskinite]

21. Time to turn CBS off.

Soon CNN will be a Right Wing propaganda outlet as well.

[betsuni]

22. Democratic message: health care, equality, social safety net, regulations, environment.

Republican voters know this. Why doesn't everyone else? Is it the constant anti-Democratic bullshit about not being progressive?

[KS Toronado]

24. In all fairness, 2 of the repugs were

Adam Kinzinger & Liz Cheney, only 2 repugs on the Jan 6th Select Committee. I don't watch Fake the Nation
anymore but were they there to talk about the Committee's work? ie: repugs they're going after?

[llashram]

25. pressure

on the 'editors' of these shows must be brought to bear on the traitors trying to create a fascist state. We must... or see the end of OUR democracy as we know it.

[CaptainTruth]

27. Those tweets illustrate that YES, we do need to get better at messaging.

To be effective, messaging must get to the target audience.

These tweets make me think that we don't have anyone within the Democratic organization who is contacting & working with show producers to ensure that our messages get out on the air, we're apparently allowing the GOP to dominate the message space. That's a big part of the problem, the DNC doesn't take "marketing" (marketing our ideas & solutions while pointing out the problems with the competition) seriously.