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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWarning graphic. The guy who posed it said it was Ukrainians killing Russians but I don't see any
identifying information. It could be Russians killing Russians or Ukrainians
Link to tweet
Quixote1818
(28,930 posts)Not sure why?
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,329 posts)Maraya1969
(22,479 posts)could be just more Russian propaganda and they are really the ones doing the killing
Quixote1818
(28,930 posts)If you watch, they are shooting them in the leg. It may be Russian soldiers pretending to be Ukrainians shooting fellow Russians in the leg so they can all go home. Or it really is Ukrainian soldiers shooting Russian soldiers in the leg.
Maraya1969
(22,479 posts)Everyone should see this. "There is no fascism, it's all Russian propaganda," they say.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,329 posts)It's really not clear what's going on here, on multiple levels.
Maraya1969
(22,479 posts)say it is. I think it might be Russian propaganda
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,329 posts)post it?
Maraya1969
(22,479 posts)Emile
(22,707 posts)Alhena
(3,030 posts)Maraya1969
(22,479 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)I doubt this is policy - it's probably a war crime by a small group. In the case of local militia, they probably lost their homes from shelling and anger/revenge are powerful emotions.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... nearly humane for UKR cause these soldiers wont be going back into circulation.
I don't know how I would act if Russia did the same to my country
David__77
(23,372 posts)
Tarc
(10,476 posts)What do you propose they do with captured enemy combatants, if one does not have the manpower or means to maintain P.O.W. camp, or transport them to one promptly?
Let them go? Execute them?
I'm not going to put much condemnation on some Ukrainian forces hobbling captured Russians so they cannot pose a threat, or run.
War isn't pretty, folks.
suckaduck
(6 posts)The longer this war lasts the more and more we're going to see these types of incidents. You look at what Mariupol and yeah I get it.
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Kaleva
(36,298 posts)Getting shot in the leg with an assault rifle is no small thing.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,326 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)NT
Chainfire
(17,536 posts)Atrocity and reprisal go hand in hand. It is inglorious, brutal and ugly. Once a man becomes insensitive to killing it becomes easier and easier. I don't know, in this video, who is killing whom, but it will be happening on both sides; it always has and it always will.
C'est la Guerre
Igel
(35,300 posts)They're speaking Russian.
The first guy on the ground has a broken leg, they say, but it's unclear if they did it or it was done to them. Still, it sounds like they're diagnosing him, not threatening him--they don't ask him anything, at least not on the video. They do seem pissed when they turn to the others still standing.
And after that the "narrative" gets really, really simple.
"Any officers here? Who's an officer?" They go and shoot. Ask the same question, "Who's the officer?" or "commander?"
It goes from "Who's an officer?" to "Who's the officer?" as the presumption in the word order shifts. (Russian doesn't have an article, but that does *not* mean it doesn't have grammatical definiteness.)
On the ground some are in uniforms--but most are *not* in uniform. Those we see shot in the video are not in uniform.
I don't hear any of those shot or being shot saying anything. Can't say if they're Ukr or Ru speakers.
Two of the uniformed soldiers shooting or with the shooter are wearing blue armbands--that might mean pro-Ukrainian or somebody faking it. Most (all?) armbands that I've seen in videos are yellow for Ukraine or bicolor. There's a barest suggestion on the Internet (that I've seen) that blue might mean extreme right, but it's posed as a question more than anything and might be trying to make a meaningless distinction meaningful. And usually the armbands are narrow.
Making it harder to parse is trying to understand where it is. It's one thing if it's in some berg where they can guard prisoners and have them taken away. It's another thing if they're in some place like Mariupol where the options are incapacitate them and move on before you're killed or let them go to report you and come after you again.
Nevilledog
(51,093 posts)Link to tweet
Hromadske Int.
@Hromadske
·
Mar 27, 2022
Videos with allegedly inhumane treatment of Russian prisoners of war by the Ukrainian army were being spread on social networks, the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine stated that these are Russian staged fakes
Hromadske Int.
@Hromadske
The Commander-in-Chief says these videos are to discredit Ukraine and must scare the Russian military from surrendering to Ukrainians
2:15 PM · Mar 27, 2022
NickB79
(19,236 posts)That alone seems suspicious. A bullet wound to the leg or knee would be excruciating, never mind the fear that the next bullet is aimed at your head.
FreeState
(10,572 posts)Why bring it here? Its BS propaganda.
Maraya1969
(22,479 posts)who is shooting who. Except that this Russian guy, probably a bot said it was the Ukrainians doing the shooting.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)"The video comes as Ukrainian forces make gains east and south of Kharkiv. CNN geolocated and verified a long video uploaded on a Telegram Saturday showing a successful assault by Ukrainian troops of the Azov Battalion, in which they took a number of Russian prisoners in a rapid assault on Olkhovka, also known as Vilkhivka."
https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-putin-news-03-27-22/h_6e158d3fc5bc5efe7fc3f10b69b7aeee