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Velshi: When Biden Said Putin 'Cannot Remain In Power', He Was Right. And He Should Stick To It (Original Post) Joinfortmill Mar 2022 OP
Joe absolutely should stick to it! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author doc03 Mar 2022 #2
I agree Joe Biden meant what he said and was right doc03 Mar 2022 #3
I think the only reason the Whitehouse walked it back KS Toronado Mar 2022 #7
Putin gone should be the base line. pandr32 Mar 2022 #4
I'm sure there's some other wannabe tsar that will take over erronis Mar 2022 #10
I said it was the base line, but one that is non-negotiable pandr32 Mar 2022 #15
So who believes that Putin SHOULD remain in Power? mackdaddy Mar 2022 #5
That was excellent PatSeg Mar 2022 #6
K & R. Excellent analysis. Must see. L. Coyote Mar 2022 #8
You're right.. I just watched. Cha Mar 2022 #12
Yes!!! blue-wave Mar 2022 #9
It is Correct.. Ukraine Is the Front Cha Mar 2022 #11
At a bare minimum, sanctions should remain in place until Putin is out of power. Nt Fiendish Thingy Mar 2022 #13
"I heard Joe Biden say it... dchill Mar 2022 #14

Response to Joinfortmill (Original post)

doc03

(35,296 posts)
3. I agree Joe Biden meant what he said and was right
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 03:39 PM
Mar 2022

f----- Putin. Then the Whitehouse walks it back. that projects weakness. Why do some people think Trump is
a tough guy? He never apologizes or takes back anything he says no matter how wrong and stupid it is. I think what Biden said was meant for those in power in Moscow. Putin helped get Trump elected and it hurts his feelings if Biden says he got to go, Fuck Putin.

KS Toronado

(17,155 posts)
7. I think the only reason the Whitehouse walked it back
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 04:42 PM
Mar 2022

was repugs started saying shit like, Biden is calling for the assassination of a innocent foreign leader,
Biden trying to get Russia to nuke us? etc, etc. They were simply taking away some of the R talking
points headed into the midterms.

erronis

(15,183 posts)
10. I'm sure there's some other wannabe tsar that will take over
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 05:20 PM
Mar 2022

I don't think just Putin-be-gone is sufficient.

I think all political prisoners should be released and restitution made.

The ruling party should be disbanded and its heads put in jail awaiting a fair tribunal (like they gave Navalny, etc.)

The oligarchs should return their wealth and be given a state-supplied dacha in Siberia.

Ukraine should receive reparations from Russia (or the current USSR).

The FSB and GRU should be disbanded and their leaders held on trial.

The bio- and chemical-weapons facilities should be closed down and thorough audits of contents and personnel made.

Russia should sign on to all treaties that help secure peace on this planet. But then, so should the USofA.

Cyberattacks should be halted.

....Gee, I just started with one item and it kept on going....

pandr32

(11,555 posts)
15. I said it was the base line, but one that is non-negotiable
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 06:57 PM
Mar 2022

You have some good ideas to build on that base condition with. Putin is a war criminal and can never have power again. Dead would be good.

By making it imperative that Putin is removed we make a clear position so Putin won't try to make false concessions to end the war--yet stay in power. Clearly, we should not ease sanctions until reparations have been made and the new government shows good faith. Russia needs to be brought from dark control.

mackdaddy

(1,522 posts)
5. So who believes that Putin SHOULD remain in Power?
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 04:22 PM
Mar 2022

other than maybe TFG and Putin himself...

The man is ordering the daily murder of hundreds or thousands of civilians. Committing atrocity after atrocity. War crimes out in public display. Threatened the world with nuclear attacks.


Wow Biden just said it out loud, and I agree 100 percent.

PatSeg

(47,275 posts)
6. That was excellent
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 04:24 PM
Mar 2022

He painted such a clear picture of what is happening in the world right now and why Ukraine is so important for democracies everywhere.

blue-wave

(4,344 posts)
9. Yes!!!
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 05:12 PM
Mar 2022

If he meant to say it or not, President Biden is spot-on correct. America should and is taking lead of the world to save the world from what could be a devastating back slide into tyranny. Enough of the debate and full speed ahead Mr. President!!

dchill

(38,444 posts)
14. "I heard Joe Biden say it...
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 06:16 PM
Mar 2022

... and I was proud of America when he did."

He speaks for me. All day lond the media have been playing "gaffeagain" with this completely correct statement by Joe Biden. That was NO GAFFE! That was an American President, for once. Not a Putin stooge or a Federalist Society traitor.

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