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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsImagine the potential showdown if Ginni Thomas is subpoenaed.
by the 1/6 committee and she refuses to show up. If it gets referred to justice and then ends up in court , her husband could potentially rule on it.. Take about a conflict of interest.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)Bev54
(10,044 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)She just wouldnt come.
No one would do anything.
Bettie
(16,083 posts)a congressional subpoena is 100% optional.
Our system works as long as both sides agree that rules and laws are a thing. Right now only one side believes in those things.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)gab13by13
(21,280 posts)1. It takes time to line up ducks.
2. Would have to turn over to the defendant all of the secret discovery information that is plastered all over the news.
3. May take longer because DOJ is digging so deep that it is uncovering more crimes.
4. I am just an internet dummy who doesn't understand why it takes so long to indict.
Robert Mueller indicted or got guilty pleas from 34 people and 3 companies in 3 months, and he laid out the evidence to indict Donald Trump for election campaign finance violations (individual one) (statute of limitations now expired) and evidence for obstruction of justice.
Walleye
(30,996 posts)I think thats a good reason to do it. We cant let these things go unanswered
Chainfire
(17,515 posts)No one is going to call the wife of a SC Justice to testify, it is not the way it works. There are two classes of people in this country, those who are subject to the rule of law and those who are above it. We should be understanding that by now. We can moan and complain about it, but there is nothing we can do to change it short of starting over from scratch.
You get all of the justice that you can afford.
Walleye
(30,996 posts)Chainfire
(17,515 posts)There is a path to change, but it is not through our current system. Our current system is so corrupt as to be self-sustaining. The path to change would not be pretty and I don't think that we have the stomach for it, so we will just complain about and learn to live with it.
To give up insinuates that you have offered resistance and failed. Most of us are too busy trying to get through our lives to offer any resistance. We just aren't the Rebels that our founders were. Maybe, one day, we will get mad enough to throw the King's tea into the bay again, but I am not holding my breath.
Walleye
(30,996 posts)Chainfire
(17,515 posts)the balance falls.
We had the start on making our government work for the people when we ended the war in Viet Nam, but we let it get away from us, we let the bad guys take over, and now we will not retrieve it with our opinions or our votes.
Look at where we have been, look at where we are today and you can predict where we will be tomorrow. We are moving away from Democracy at an alarming pace. Expressing an opinion is fine and I am glad that we can do that today, but who knows about tomorrow. They are burning books and trying to end legal abortions, hate is becoming mainstream, unrestricted gun laws are blossoming, the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer, we have lunatics in the House of Representatives and Nazis marching in the streets.
I is going to take more than expressing opinions to put us back on the right path.
Walleye
(30,996 posts)Chainfire
(17,515 posts)the young ones off to fight before they get old enough to say, "HELL NO" So I will just act out my role.
The Truth is I don't know what, if anything, will turn us off of our current path towards Fascism. I certainly don' want a civil war; that would be the bloodiest, most destructive battle that could be imagined and the only winners would be our enemies overseas who would step in to help us keep the peace after we had sufficiently thinned ourselves out.
I am glad that I am old and will be checking out soon; it is a hell of a feeling believing that you have lost the country that you love. It is easy to just try to blame the goddamn Republicans, but as Jimmy finally figured out, "Its our own damn fault."
Walleye
(30,996 posts)Now Im just trying to stay alive long enough to spend my hard-earned Social Security
Chainfire
(17,515 posts)I may hang around longer than I really want to just to stick it to Uncle Sam! I like sleeping in every day and getting a check every month. I love to poke it to my hard-working right-wing neighbors that I am spending their hard earned money that they are paying in, and that they will probably never see a dime of it when they get old. Dog gone if I don't love entitlements.
Walleye
(30,996 posts)Hang in there
bucolic_frolic
(43,115 posts)They should focus on the orchestrators. Indictments are what solve this mess. Then Clarence probably won't have to rule at all.
Autumn
(45,012 posts)orleans
(34,043 posts)the committee does one of 2 things:
either shrugs, says "okay...whatever" & goes home
or
goes after ginny legally
case goes to supreme court
clarence refuses to recuse his bitter "i need to go back to the hospital" self
& rules: "poopsey doesn't have to go anywhere near that horrible committee if she doesn't want to"
Farmer-Rick
(10,150 posts)Since his release from the hospital? Are there any images?
Just wondering.......
Walleye
(30,996 posts)Its a shame that a Supreme Court justice is just another right wing troll
Farmer-Rick
(10,150 posts)But the GOP lies more often then I change my socks and Ginni is an even crazier version of them. We'll see if we'll see him...
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)drray23
(7,627 posts)That is, will he even recuse himself ? In a situation like this, if he does not it will put even more nails in the coffin of an apolitical Supreme Court. This might renew calls for expanding it.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)who come from every political background.
Its hard to expect impartiality when GOPers and Democrats seem to have litmus tests. I prefer Democrats expectations, though.
Walleye
(30,996 posts)bringthePaine
(1,727 posts)2naSalit
(86,501 posts)A plot to blow of the SCOTUS.
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