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I finally watched the video where Biden called on God and said of Putin "For God's sake this man can not remain in power".
What the hell is the big deal? And why is everyone leaving out the whole quote? Off handily hoping to God that someone doesn't remain in power doesn't mean you want them dead, just that they shouldn't remain in power.
Do republicans want Putin to remain in power?
I know Lindsey Graham recently called for what sounded like an assassination.
Chainfire
(17,467 posts)There is nothing new.
soldierant
(6,791 posts)undoubtedly agre, but do not wat the quote to be mistaken for a cal to assiassinate (or even depose) - because Putin might take that as an excuse to nuke us.
And it's far from impossible.
Republicans, of courseprobably want us to get nuked andthing they are invulnerable. Sigh.
It's perpetual temper tantrum this is just the trigger du jour.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,164 posts)Trump will get the vaccines sooner than Biden. He even creates a "warp speed" group of vaccine producers to get it to the market pronto. Beautiful vaccines. Biden will take 5 years.
Biden wins and a vaccine is finally approved (the same vaccine that would have been approved if Trump were in power) gets vaccine rollout going and breaks his own goals of how many get their first vaccination in 3 months. Now vaccines are bad, a Democratic plot. No matter if Trump gets the vaccine himself and tells followers to. No matter if Fox News staff all must be vaccinated to work there.
They know they can milk the negative aspect of conflicting opinions. Even if they cancel each other out. That's how frighteningly the MAGAts have been brainwashed.
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Trump gets pillared by McConnell for Jan 6th right after.
Trump gets McConnells nod as his next vote for President months later.
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Cancel culture is a liberal assault on our freedoms
Other than Dixie Chicks, Last Temptation of Christ, Rap music, teaching the history of slavery in their country, Gay marriage, LGBTQ access to washrooms, mail in voting, CNN, MSNBC, etc etc etc
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Now its a scramble to distance themselves from their leaders admiration of Putin after enough days of bombing in Ukraine, by trying to top Democrats in how vicious they, and Trump too, would be if they were in the WH.
But if Biden dares to even suggest Putin should not be allowed to be the representative of Russia in future, it is a bridge too far.
The GOP knows they have stupidity on their side. They love the poorly educated. They milk it for all its worth by taking leaps of logic to be able to be on the wrong side of issues, and then also paint Democrats as actually being the ones who......were wrong before they were wrong......aren't right enough....and if that doesn't work go back to the good old "but but but...Obama, Clinton, Biden....did something else wrong x years ago...so that excuses us today" And what sucks is that you can't argue and win with a stupid, and/or brainwashed person like their supporters, and they know it.
XanaDUer2
(10,496 posts)Plus - in those little Republican heads, the enemy of my enemy is always my friend.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,102 posts)Walleye
(30,977 posts)I think they were worried they would have to say what a great historic speech it was.
Ocelot II
(115,584 posts)It was not a "gaffe," as various talking heads have claimed. He didn't call for his assassination like Lindsey Graham did, or suggest that the US or NATO was going to engage in regime change. After having called Putin a butcher, how could he say anything else? Of course a butcher shouldn't remain in power, FFS! In the context of the speech, seems like he was talking to the Russians. In any event, it's what everyone is thinking.
Ohioboy
(3,238 posts)I think it's good for Biden to show he supports opposition to Putin, and anyone that acts like Putin for that matter.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)and the Republicans would turn it into something vile and throw a hissy fit.
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Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)where George pointed out to Dick the phrase "politically correct" was created by rightwingers.
And today we know "cancelled" is one of theirs as well.
Not sure what it has to do with what you said, but there you go.
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)to have TFG and Putin back in charge. It's up to the rest of us to make sure they all
wind up in jail or prison where they belong.
ymetca
(1,182 posts)that he still has hope. Russia's not North Korea. Putin's horrific "folly" appears to be much like Bush's at this point.
Now can they get him out of there?
That's what we're down to. Good for you Mr. President! Just telling it like it is, IMHO.
gab13by13
(21,255 posts)the MSM is owned and managed by the right, funded by American oligarchs.
President Biden was absolutely right in what he said but the MSM has made it into a faux pas, it is the lead story on cable.
The American oligarchs can get nonsensical bullshit covered on cable 24/7, such as the bio-labs in Ukraine.
The importance of controlling the narrative is totally overlooked, propaganda works.
I am down to watching 2 people, Chris Hayes and Nicolle, and I am pissed for Rachel axing Keith Olbermann. No one on cable news is worth watching, they are all pump handles.
Escurumbele
(3,378 posts)the fact that there are so many men and women ready to give their principles to obey the orders of their employers when they have to know they are being asked to lie, they are being asked to preach nonsense that goes against everything the USA has stood for in history, that they are willing to help a regime which will eventually be the cause of misery for their families, their kids and future generations, and the lack of courage from so many people.
People with courage would never put up with a buffoon like trump, or any of the other republicans, people with courage are usually intelligent people who can see the fake of all those republican politicians.
To me, that is the worst, the very sad reality.
DENVERPOPS
(8,788 posts)A truer statement was never made that was more perfect than......FOLLOW THE MONEY
druidity33
(6,444 posts)I don't know what this is about...
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Cha
(296,808 posts)Outraged by a Tan Suit or Arugula.. they're simpleminded POS.
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keithbvadu2
(36,654 posts)Cha
(296,808 posts)fucking Horrified out of what should be their collective mind.:strom:
Full Disclosure.. I don't have a TV but I saw the Stupid clips on DU
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dalton99a
(81,391 posts)Ohioboy
(3,238 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,135 posts)But no this fool is a GOPer so no outrage.
The slip of the tongue that was purposely ignored by our corporate media in the most mind-blowing way was when the president of the United States said he and his daughter had sex in common. Yeah, TFG said that and the media barely batted an eye.
The corporate media got more upset about Biden not wanting Putin to remain in power then when the US president said he was incestuous with his daughter. Go figure.
Cha
(296,808 posts)ape shit over this.. or does Lindsey's tweet count?
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Septua
(2,252 posts)If he minces words, he's 'weak'. if he shows some teeth, he's reckless.
Cha
(296,808 posts)media.. Dems are targets .
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Skittles
(153,111 posts)they want their slush fund to continue
Escurumbele
(3,378 posts)kairos12
(12,842 posts)The media yawned their way through Chump's 10,000 lieapalooza.
The media is disgrace.
Evolve Dammit
(16,697 posts)"I didn't give them hell. I told them the truth and they thought it was hell."
AverageOldGuy
(1,510 posts). . . pearl-clutching on CNN and MSNBC. I check in with CNN and MSNBC a couple of times a day. Today has been filled with no-name commentators clutching their pearls and clucking their tongues over Biden's statement.
This is war and war has its own calculus. I'd put a bullet in Putin's head in a heartbeat and not lose one minute of sleep over it.
Where do they get these fools? I guess if you must have something on the screen 24/7 it doesn't take long to run out of people who know what they are talking about, then, you fill the time with dumbasses.
Joinfortmill
(14,387 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,870 posts)possibly their own futures if Putin continues to lead.
I'm not speaking of individual Russian citizens, although they may be meant to hear it as well. I mean there are, among the remaining members of Russia's government, military, and ruling class, those who have the possibility of removing him or blunting his control. These are people who fear that Putin has put Russia into a financial and political nose-dive and exposed the lie of Russian conventional military power. These are people who are worried about how their privileged life will be under Putin and his cronies after the Ukrainian Misadventure ends, assuming it does end at all.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,559 posts)Biden is a popular Democrat.
JonAndKatePlusABird
(311 posts)Recall some handwringing back then, but thats part and parcel of being a public figure .
sop
(10,098 posts)It's just more of their never-ending false equivalence bullshit. They're afraid Joe's deft leadership in this international crisis will increase his poll numbers.
H2O Man
(73,506 posts)As if Biden's saying this is the greatest crisis facing humanity now. Probably in history!
I could fucking puke. I do not like war or killing. But since Putin invaded Ukraine, I've hoped someone around him would invade a bullet into his head. And there are a lot of people thinking and/or saying that these days. What President Biden said was mild, yet 100% accurate.
Tickle
(2,488 posts)I agree with your feelings 100% but I read the reason for people being upset is because it came off as a regime change that other countries thought we were going to do
paleotn
(17,881 posts)And I'd bet a whole hell of a lot of money we ain't invading Russia. It's all stupid. Just stupid.
Tickle
(2,488 posts)paleotn
(17,881 posts)It's all a tempest in a tea pot. The speech itself was amazing. One of Biden's best ever in my mind. That's what we're not talking about. Instead it's some ridiculous semantics game. Drives me nuts.
Tickle
(2,488 posts)Warming speech. It came from within him and I could feel his passion
calimary
(81,101 posts)He said what not only needed to be said, but exactly what MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of Americans and others have said, and are still saying.
Nictuku
(3,587 posts)Anyone old enough to remember this?
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Repubs are beyond the point of return IMHO, played with stupidity a hundred times too many?
Owning the sources of blasting disinfo, their advantage in a nutshell and why it never ends.
The bankruptcy of Fools News and hate radio stations, via whatever methods, is the what will be required?
Aussie105
(5,318 posts)If your mind is in turmoil, and your day filled with fears and doubts . . .
Turn off your TV, get off internet social media, tune your radio to some 24/7 music only station, and breathe deeply.
Disconnect from the trivia, disconnect from the fear mongering, disconnect from the propaganda.
Life can be worth living again. It's up to you.
If anything important happens out there, don't worry, DU will keep you up to date.
Now, I'm off to prune the roses, so I get a decent crop of flowers in the upcoming autumn and winter.
Justice matters.
(6,918 posts)And they sent thousands of cannon-fodder (in their draft-dodger's view) to do it for Big Oil.
Because they knew he didn't have any nukes, and invented false narratives like yellow cake.
Funny to see today's r-w pundits seem to remember any of their lies.
Justice matters.
(6,918 posts)Tried to edit my post but got the infamous 503 Forbidden bug over and over again DU.