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China drops 500 million dollar bomb on puttie... (Original Post) pbmus Mar 2022 OP
well that's dweller Mar 2022 #1
I see. 🙈 dchill Mar 2022 #14
Good. I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2022 #2
Yes! Enter stage left Mar 2022 #3
YEAH BABY Leghorn21 Mar 2022 #4
That is VERY good news. Seems like China has chosen what square to stand on. Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #5
I trust china quakerboy Mar 2022 #6
Indeed! nt Wounded Bear Mar 2022 #9
China plays the long game in politics keithbvadu2 Mar 2022 #10
Exactly Irish_Dem Mar 2022 #11
i trust china like i trust a fox watching a henhouse. They're self-serving & are only watching their onetexan Mar 2022 #37
I mean, who is really doing anything but that? quakerboy Mar 2022 #40
Never as it seems. James48 Mar 2022 #8
I'm not surprised. Authoritarians like Trump, Putin, and Xi have loyalty only to themselves. Martin68 Mar 2022 #7
Looks like Putie is turning into putty. calimary Mar 2022 #12
To Keep That $500 Million In Perspective DallasNE Mar 2022 #13
China cancelling the multi million dollar investment is not the big hurt agingdem Mar 2022 #18
Xi doesn't care about Biden gaskinite Mar 2022 #23
Good. 👍 ShazzieB Mar 2022 #15
The Chinese are forced to import oil and ng FakeNoose Mar 2022 #16
They have coal mines though, so seems like there'd be other fossil fuel in the ground Hekate Mar 2022 #24
Bloomberg has reported that Russian tankers have been running without tracking systems.... SergeStorms Mar 2022 #28
Is it China's plan to drive Russia into the ditch EYESORE 9001 Mar 2022 #17
Yes. They want Siberia without a fight. roamer65 Mar 2022 #25
it's a symbolic gesture on China's part. The 500 million is nothing on their scale. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2022 #26
My take as well. KentuckyWoman Mar 2022 #32
Exactly. This is more about Putin's image and ability to inspire confidence whopis01 Mar 2022 #35
Ok!ok!ok! Never would have bet on that happening. lindysalsagal Mar 2022 #19
its always a good idea to copy/paste text from tweet also as tweets can take some time to load nt yaesu Mar 2022 #20
Help me out Roy Rolling Mar 2022 #21
$500 million is nothing for China whopis01 Mar 2022 #36
K & R L. Coyote Mar 2022 #22
For real.. the world runs on money. We are all hoping Putin is just like that. BradBo Mar 2022 #27
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #29
I liked that same tweet.. Before Cha Mar 2022 #31
This is a Switch! Wasn't China just helping Vlad in some way? Cha Mar 2022 #30
Good news. Maybe that's why Pootie is withdrawing his troops to eastern Vinca Mar 2022 #33
China stands for itself and any other positions are just temporary. n/t lark Mar 2022 #34
Like trump, China is all about the money & power. oldsoftie Mar 2022 #38
Oh. That's in there pretty deep. The Unmitigated Gall Mar 2022 #39

quakerboy

(13,916 posts)
6. I trust china
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 09:58 PM
Mar 2022

To do their best to play both sides of this.

Whichever way it goes, they intend to come out on top.

onetexan

(13,020 posts)
37. i trust china like i trust a fox watching a henhouse. They're self-serving & are only watching their
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 04:02 PM
Mar 2022

back.

quakerboy

(13,916 posts)
40. I mean, who is really doing anything but that?
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:53 PM
Mar 2022

Everyone is pretty much watching their own backs and acting self servingly.

The difference being who is willing to commit war crimes and invade other countries, and who has other tools in their toolbox to get what they want. Oh.. and who is basically at the whims of the more powerful.

James48

(4,427 posts)
8. Never as it seems.
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 09:59 PM
Mar 2022

China is way too complex for an easy answer.

There must be more to the story-

Look for alternate currencies, routing through rubels, or some unexpected new trade deal to pop up.

agingdem

(7,805 posts)
18. China cancelling the multi million dollar investment is not the big hurt
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 10:38 PM
Mar 2022

the big hurt is China's defection...Xi wisely understands Putin's winless war is not the mountain he wants to die on...and I suspect Xi understands Biden is not someone he can fuck with...

 

gaskinite

(73 posts)
23. Xi doesn't care about Biden
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 11:12 PM
Mar 2022

His bet is a low odds sure bet that Russia is gonna tank. He missed out on the big bet.

FakeNoose

(32,579 posts)
16. The Chinese are forced to import oil and ng
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 10:27 PM
Mar 2022

... because they have none of their own.

I wonder where they're going to get it, now that they've cancelled their order with Russia?
Hmmmm.....

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
24. They have coal mines though, so seems like there'd be other fossil fuel in the ground
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 11:20 PM
Mar 2022

But what do I know

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
28. Bloomberg has reported that Russian tankers have been running without tracking systems....
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 12:35 AM
Mar 2022

at least 33 times in the past week, making the sanctions against them somewhat difficult to enforce. The tankers are virtually invisible without the tracking systems in working order.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/several-russian-tankers-reportedly-turned-off-their-tracking-systems-33-times-last-week-a-practice-the-us-says-could-be-used-to-evade-sanctions/ar-AAVy1f0?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=71987fd2e52a4b34af8e60229d738524

Anyone want to wager where these tankers are headed?

EYESORE 9001

(25,908 posts)
17. Is it China's plan to drive Russia into the ditch
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 10:38 PM
Mar 2022

and then pick over the wreckage for the tasty bits remaining? Seems a better business plan than backing a fast-fading former superpower with plans to subvert their best customers.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
26. it's a symbolic gesture on China's part. The 500 million is nothing on their scale.
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 11:36 PM
Mar 2022

Putin suffered a massive PR defeat. THAT'S the story.

whopis01

(3,491 posts)
35. Exactly. This is more about Putin's image and ability to inspire confidence
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 12:49 PM
Mar 2022

or lack thereof.

Putin has become a problem. China doesn't want to get dragged down with him. It would be much easier to let him go away and work with the next guy.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
20. its always a good idea to copy/paste text from tweet also as tweets can take some time to load nt
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 10:56 PM
Mar 2022

Roy Rolling

(6,908 posts)
21. Help me out
Sun Mar 27, 2022, 11:08 PM
Mar 2022

Is $500 million a large amount in this context of a large country like China? I can’t understand this event as anything but a PR ploy to say “China publicly opposes Russia’s invasion”.

Still, I hope the reality is as hopeful as the PR statement. But I’m fearful that public pronouncements during wartime are meant to deceive.

Though, lastly, the veneer of a cancelled business deal leaves a lot of political face-saving for both parties in the eyes of the world. And that’s how successful negotiations look.

whopis01

(3,491 posts)
36. $500 million is nothing for China
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 12:53 PM
Mar 2022

China knows how to a read a room.

This is more harmful to Putin himself than to Russia or China. It is bad PR for him and further erodes the confidence of those who keep him in power. China is not changing their policy at all - they are just distancing themselves from Putin.

Vinca

(50,236 posts)
33. Good news. Maybe that's why Pootie is withdrawing his troops to eastern
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 07:11 AM
Mar 2022

Ukraine supposedly to secure those small pockets of alleged Russia lovers. If China cuts him off, that's pretty much the ball game. Smart move on China's part choosing the rest of the world over Putin's lousy economy.

oldsoftie

(12,489 posts)
38. Like trump, China is all about the money & power.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 04:10 PM
Mar 2022

And we should get our critical manufacturing OUT of there

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