If you haven't by now made up your mind for whom to vote you ought to just stay home.

[Stinky The Clown]

If something that gets said by either campaign in the last two weeks before the election makes you choose a candidate, in my view you pretty much don't deserve to have your vote counted. I know you have the right to vote, but for the sake of everyone who does pay attention and think, you ought to just stay home, order a pizza, and watch whatever bullshit shiny-thing-show happens to be on TV.

If you only make up your mind in the last minutes of the campaign, it means you were convinced by bullshit, bluster, and campaign rhetoric. If you only make up your mind in the last minutes of the campaign, it means you really haven't been paying attention for the last four years. If you only make up your mind in the last minutes of the campaign, you're not a thinker.

Stay home.

[cherokeeprogressive]

1. Everyone deserves to have their vote counted. There is no requirement to have one's mind made up by

a certain date. Democracy is what takes place inside the voting booth... NOT on the phone and NOT while walking through a shopping mall. Get a grip.

There aren't nearly as many "undecideds" as the M$M would have you believe. They're just making a big deal out of it because it fucks up their polling and predictions. There is ONLY one poll that matters and that's the one taking place on the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November.

Most importantly, NO ONE should refrain from casting their vote simply because of something another voter believes. That's just a crock of shit.

[quinnox]

3. +1

People can make up their minds even while in the voting booth. So what. Good for them, as long as they vote, that is the important thing.

[dballance]

7. I'm sorry I think that's absurd. Would you give that advice to people getting married.

Carrying your argument to it's logical conclusion you'd be telling a bride or groom: "Oh don't worry about it. You can decide at the alter. The important thing is you just get there"

That meme that "so long as they vote, that is the important thing" needs be shot down. No, the important thing is they become informed and then vote.

[quinnox]

8. well, I think your philosophy sucks

pssst, the more people that vote, the better it is for humanity (and Democrats). Why in the world would anyone want to limit and restrict the right to vote? Maybe you don't know, but the republicans have similar views in that they try and make it hard for people to vote with the voter ID requirements nonsense and other barriers to people voting.

[dballance]

14. In no way shape or form did I suggest we limit or restrict voting

I did not suggest we, for instance, give voters tests of their knowledge of the candidates before allowing them to vote. My views do not reflect the GOP views that try to limit or restrict voting with photo ID requirements or monkeying with early hours or caging and all the other things they do.

I want as many people to vote as possible. Is it too much to ask that your vote be an informed one and that it be based on your beliefs and convictions about the candidates and not a split-second decision though? If one has firmly held beliefs and convictions and bothers to become informed about the candidates over 18-24 months before the election I see no reason why one should be undecided until they enter the voting booth.

And, please feel free to post the links to studies that statistically support your statement:

"pssst, the more people that vote, the better it is for humanity (and Democrats)."

[cherokeeprogressive]

10. How is it possible that the "logical conclusion" of this argument winds up at an altar? n/t

[dballance]

15. Please don't be obtuse

You have over 13k posts and have been on DU since 2005. Surely you have seen other people use comparative arguments to make a point.

[dballance]

5. I completely disagree. Democracy is a process, NOT 10 minutes behind a curtain.

If, at ten days before such an important election as a Presidential election you have not done what is necessary to educate yourself on the candidates and know the differences between them to help you decide I believe you have failed your civic duty. If you don't have a good idea about what they will do in office that has allowed you to decide I believe you have failed your civic duty.

I remember some sitcom from when I was young - I believe it was Andy Griffith. The town had split evenly on the election of one office when votes were counted but it was discovered this one voter had not voted. He would decide the election. So they coerced him into the voting booth. Then the camera pulled back and you saw a coin spinning into the air above the curtain rod of the voting booth over and over again.

I'm sure there is an app for smart phones now so one would not have to use a real coin or Magic 8 Ball. I don't think that's how I want to see our President elected.

[cherokeeprogressive]

6. Right. You can believe whatever you want to believe.

Not voting is failing your civic duty. Not telling a pollster who you're voting for isn't any more meaningful than a fart in a stiff breeze.

So if they decide at the last moment to vote for Obama, their votes shouldn't be counted? Hmmm?

Telling anyone, anyone they shouldn't vote when they're perfectly eligible is a crock of shit, no matter what you believe their civic duty is; and telling people not to vote was the whole fucking point of the OP.

[dballance]

11. I will most certainly continue to stand by my opinion and believe in it.

Yes, the OP was basically telling people not to vote and I obviously agree with it. However, my post was in response to yours which basically said go vote no matter what. Even if you can't make up your mind until you're filling out the circles or punching buttons on the screen. That doesn't sound responsible to me.

[cherokeeprogressive]

13. So you "obviously agree" with telling people not to vote. Mmmmkay. n/t

[dballance]

16. Yes, I do.

But with the caveats I have put in my posts. Not as a general rule.

It is not fulfilling one's civic duty to act like an autotomaton and just go vote.

[chowder66]

2. My guess is that some of the undecided know who they would vote for but they are still deciding

whether or not to go and vote at all for their choice.

[easychoice]

4. Nope!

If they are undecided they should go to the polls and vote straight Democrat,vote for Gay marriage,vote to legalize weed and vote against any abortion restraints!
They will thank us later!

[spanone]

9. ....or seek psychiatric consultation.

[marions ghost]

12. There really ARE people who only make up their minds at the last minute

chances are they've been flipping back and forth-- and will make a decision WHEN they're in the voting booth...this is especially true for congress and state candidates. This does NOT mean they are "not a thinker."

We need every one who can get to the polls and vote Obama, no matter how they got there mentally. I think there are a lot of conflicted and confused voters out there this time. Maybe even, for example, women who were going to vote for Rmoney, but considering the latest GOP assertions about abortion and rape--suddenly they flip at the last minute (and may not even tell hubby)--this is one example of where a single issue may make someone decide at the gong.

Stinky you get a from me. I know you're trying to say people should be informed, but if somebody's torn with indecision, it's no help to shame them.

Voters who don't want either candidate are the ones who should leave it blank. I don't know how that works on a touchscreen--does Santa's little helper fill it in for you?