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The uncensored moment Will Smith smacks Chris Rock on stage at the Oscars (Original Post) ItsjustMe Mar 2022 OP
Will Smith ruined the night. live love laugh Mar 2022 #1
Chris Rock ruined the night. nt DURHAM D Mar 2022 #2
Chris didn't hit anyone. tinrobot Mar 2022 #4
It's overkill at this point. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2022 #5
Chris Rock verbally insulted/ attacked Jada. sheshe2 Mar 2022 #19
OK. But that still doesn't excuse physical violence. tinrobot Mar 2022 #48
Will Smith violently assaulted someone and trespassed a public forum. Duncan Grant Mar 2022 #6
Chris Rock shouldn't have went there. Why was he even... brush Mar 2022 #16
Lol, ok! Nt USALiberal Mar 2022 #42
LAPD Statement LetMyPeopleVote Mar 2022 #3
I'm surprised that they need somebody to file charges. old as dirt Mar 2022 #11
Chris Rock has insulted a woman with autoimmune disorder calling her GI Jane 2 AlexSFCA Mar 2022 #7
Chris Rock is a monster. i have cried a million tears about my hair loss. Trueblue1968 Mar 2022 #12
True! True Blue American Mar 2022 #17
I agree, TBA.. Chris was Cha Mar 2022 #20
Chris din't get it even after being punched in the face AlexSFCA Mar 2022 #32
No. dixiechiken1 Mar 2022 #39
Thank you... and Will Smith Cha Mar 2022 #44
wrong for punching, shouting was well deserved AlexSFCA Mar 2022 #47
+ 1,000 malaise Mar 2022 #24
Absolutely! Tomconroy Mar 2022 #46
There is no defending Will Smith standingtall Mar 2022 #8
both need to be cancelled. AlexSFCA Mar 2022 #9
Agree nt Tickle Mar 2022 #23
Jada Pinkett-Smith is very capable of defending herself tenderfoot Mar 2022 #10
Exactly, and you are the first who has said this obamanut2012 Mar 2022 #30
This is a huge point that most people are missing. Croney Mar 2022 #38
This ☝️☝️☝️ dixiechiken1 Mar 2022 #40
Is she, though? Are we conflating the fictional Niobe with the real life actress? elias7 Mar 2022 #41
Also, she didn't need defending. She might have needed support. fishwax Mar 2022 #43
Just saw this comment +1000 Sunsky Mar 2022 #49
odd catsudon Mar 2022 #13
That's right.. I remember Cha Mar 2022 #21
Also very odd that Will Smith's expression is still delighted True Dough Mar 2022 #36
Is that what Old Crank Mar 2022 #14
Thought the same Traildogbob Mar 2022 #25
This was a mindfuck for me since I grew up during the Jspur Mar 2022 #15
Earlier that same evening.. SleeplessinSoCal Mar 2022 #18
Yep. He made it all about him, not Jada. JoanofArgh Mar 2022 #27
Racists on rightwing media will have a field day with this. sop Mar 2022 #22
Both gave them ammunition. Of course they will use it. Boomerproud Mar 2022 #29
i popped into FreeRepublic. A few racists comments but prevailing comments. 1. It's faked Demovictory9 Mar 2022 #31
Will Smith sure was laughing when Rock initially JoanofArgh Mar 2022 #26
It was the Academy Awards though. This was seen live around the world. IcyPeas Mar 2022 #28
Putting right or wrong aside, the "joke" before the usedtobedemgurl Mar 2022 #33
I'm sort of shocked Chris Rock just took it in stride Buckeyeblue Mar 2022 #34
Am I the Only One Willto Mar 2022 #35
I am definitely torn True Dough Mar 2022 #37
Looks like a fake "Hollywood" slap to me with exaggerated action and no physical contact. Earth-shine Mar 2022 #45

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
5. It's overkill at this point.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 02:09 AM
Mar 2022

Chris insulted Will's wife over a medical condition that she finds embarrassing. Will slapped him. I'm sure they both regret it now.

sheshe2

(83,657 posts)
19. Chris Rock verbally insulted/ attacked Jada.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 04:15 AM
Mar 2022

She has an autoimmune syndrome. Hair loss. She and others like her suffer from it. For a woman, it is devastating.

tinrobot

(10,887 posts)
48. OK. But that still doesn't excuse physical violence.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 12:58 PM
Mar 2022

Chris Rock attacked her with words. Not cool.

If Will Smith had responded with words, it would have been understandable.

But escalating to physical violence? Nope.

Duncan Grant

(8,260 posts)
6. Will Smith violently assaulted someone and trespassed a public forum.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 02:21 AM
Mar 2022

I don’t know what planet you’re living on but here in reality-land, Will Smith has f***ed himself and his career over for a lifetime. Unacceptable behavior. No excuses.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
7. Chris Rock has insulted a woman with autoimmune disorder calling her GI Jane 2
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 02:23 AM
Mar 2022

But not just one woman, ALL women with this disorder and ALL women undergoing chemotherapy because he said it to audience of tens of millions. This alone is enough to cancel him. Will Smith did what a husband would do to someone who insults his wife but normally in a private setting - punch in a face. It’s emotional response not a rational one. The fact that smith cares about his wife more than his career is rare in hollywood. It was stupid display of toxic masculinity as he could take down Chris Rock in a non violent way via cancelling him for the rest of his life. In fact, the punch may have saved Rock’s career as they are perceived as even. The coverage is centered around violence on stage not the words said by Rock which are far more hurtful to vulnerable people.

Trueblue1968

(17,194 posts)
12. Chris Rock is a monster. i have cried a million tears about my hair loss.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 03:49 AM
Mar 2022


the whole "joke" was in horrible taste. he should be ashamed of himself

women losing their crowning glory ..... that is what my mom always called my long thick hair is not a joke.

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
17. True!
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 04:12 AM
Mar 2022

Chris went where he never should have gone. You never make fun of a disability. And I like Chris. He needs to publicly apologize.

Cha

(296,874 posts)
20. I agree, TBA.. Chris was
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 04:23 AM
Mar 2022

horribly wrong and so was Will Smith.

Abd, yes Chris Rock should publicly apologize. I have a feeling he wishes he never would have gone there.

💙💛

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
32. Chris din't get it even after being punched in the face
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 06:14 AM
Mar 2022

will smith still had to shout expletives

Cha

(296,874 posts)
44. Thank you... and Will Smith
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 08:07 AM
Mar 2022

did Not have to slap Chris Rock

Chris was Wrong but violence is Not the answer no matter how upset anyone is.

💙💛



standingtall

(2,785 posts)
8. There is no defending Will Smith
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 02:28 AM
Mar 2022

I don't care if the joke was offensive that doesn't give you justification for assaulting someone.

AlexSFCA

(6,137 posts)
9. both need to be cancelled.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 02:30 AM
Mar 2022

The violence was disgusting and the insult to a woman with autoimmune disorder was enough for all networks to permanently ban Chris Rock.

tenderfoot

(8,425 posts)
10. Jada Pinkett-Smith is very capable of defending herself
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 02:42 AM
Mar 2022

Quit defending her husband's narcissistic behavior.

fishwax

(29,148 posts)
43. Also, she didn't need defending. She might have needed support.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 08:00 AM
Mar 2022

She wasn't under attack. The joke was over. If she was upset, then she might have needed support. Going amd punching someone like that isn't help or support. If either her or Will's idea of providing support is assaulting someone else, then that's a pretty sick thing.

catsudon

(839 posts)
13. odd
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 03:55 AM
Mar 2022

that he laughed at first. Then the camera cuts away and all of a sudden he’s pissed? Must’ve looked around and seen her face and realized she’d run right back to their son’s friend if he didn’t act hard.

Cha

(296,874 posts)
21. That's right.. I remember
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 04:26 AM
Mar 2022

seeing that now. What a 180.

I think they were both horribly Wrong.

💙💛

True Dough

(17,255 posts)
36. Also very odd that Will Smith's expression is still delighted
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 07:06 AM
Mar 2022

after "slapping" Chris Rock. If you pause the video, Will is still smiling after the assault. One would think he would look angry after immediately slapping someone in a rage.

Hmm.

Traildogbob

(8,684 posts)
25. Thought the same
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 04:46 AM
Mar 2022

Not sure I would have been a good little liberal if trump got his mug slapped. Maybe by John McCain. Everyone knows Cruz is a spineless jelly fish.
Both men, Will and Chris crossed the line. I think if Will would have only shouted angrily, “keep my wife’s name out your fucking mouth, twice as he did, his defense of his wife would have been accomplished.
Both men will feel consequences. Rock should have been aware of her health issue, it’s very public knowledge. A sad display from both. Punching down comedy is wrong. Punching up retaliation for it, also wrong. Denzel made the point to Will, eloquently. “Be careful, at your highest point the devil will enter”.

Jspur

(578 posts)
15. This was a mindfuck for me since I grew up during the
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 04:07 AM
Mar 2022

90's watching both of them as a kid and teenager. If you had told my younger self that one day these two iconic figures in their fields would throw hands, I wouldn't believe it. To me it is still surreal.

Both men were in the wrong with their actions. Chris for cracking jokes on Jada's baldness when it comes to illness. Will was wrong for slapping Chris because he committed assault. I have been in many situations where I wanted to slap the shit out of guys, I didn't like but I kept my cool and handled the situation without throwing hands.

Will ultimately was the biggest loser from this fiasco. Chris' joke wasn't funny, and he would have probably had a high chance of getting cancelled since Jada has an illness he was basically making fun of. If Will didn't hit him then we are talking about how much of cruel ass hole Chris was for that jokes. Will bailed him out by hitting him and now Chris comes across as the victim. Will also ruined his moment of winning an Oscar because it will always be overshadowed by what he did to Chris.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,088 posts)
18. Earlier that same evening..
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 04:14 AM
Mar 2022

Last edited Mon Mar 28, 2022, 11:44 AM - Edit history (1)

Regina Hall insuited Smith with her remark that his wife said she could take and test him for covid. At the time it sounded like an insult of Smith. Maybe it weighed on him. Then the crack about G I Jane 2 pushed him over the edge.

I have my own tasteless assessment that I've not seen elsewhere: Oscars So Black.. But I'm only saying it here, where nobody can hit me.

Another reason I believe it wasn't the alopecia factor. It was perceived as a lack of respect for himself:

"...you've got to be able to have people disrespecting you, and you've got to smile, and you've got to pretend like that's OK...."

Is this part of toxic masculinity? I think it is.

Demovictory9

(32,423 posts)
31. i popped into FreeRepublic. A few racists comments but prevailing comments. 1. It's faked
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 05:38 AM
Mar 2022

don't trust Hollywoo / watch slo mo of how Will bends his fingers to do not hurt Christ . 2. Its real... dicussions about how chris Rock handled it / Jada's condition, etc... 3. Racism / politics / nonsense talk

JoanofArgh

(14,971 posts)
26. Will Smith sure was laughing when Rock initially
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 04:52 AM
Mar 2022

told the joke. With everything going on in the world , I could care less about this self- involved twit and I like both of them .

IcyPeas

(21,842 posts)
28. It was the Academy Awards though. This was seen live around the world.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 05:02 AM
Mar 2022

I think Smith should've waited to confront Rock in a less public way.

I dunno.

usedtobedemgurl

(1,129 posts)
33. Putting right or wrong aside, the "joke" before the
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 06:25 AM
Mar 2022

GIJane joke was really sexist. It is such a stereotype of the motto happy wife, happy life. Chris Rock would have gotten so much blowback to say if the wife had won, there was no possible way for the husband to win. No, that would be attacking the husband’s masculinity. Attacking a man’s masculinity is not acceptable. But saying, basically, the wife would be such a bitch, there was no way the husband could win was ok. Then he attacks, um jokes, about Jada’s looks. Do I see some sort of pattern here?

I am not talking about the physical attack. Maybe I just never felt Chris Rock was significant enough to listen to, so I had no idea what he was like. Just saying those two “jokes” back to back says a lot about Chris.

Buckeyeblue

(5,499 posts)
34. I'm sort of shocked Chris Rock just took it in stride
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 06:28 AM
Mar 2022

I would say his composure kept this from being a full out fight. A joke is a joke. And these celebrities know they are going to get made fun of. There have been worse jokes made over the years.

And Will Smith won't be canceled. He just became more famous than ever. Hollywood has always had a thing for leading men with a violent edge.

Willto

(292 posts)
35. Am I the Only One
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 06:53 AM
Mar 2022

That thinks the slap looks fake as hell? I have watched it multiple times and I see no actual contact. And Chris Rock was pretty calm for a guy who got slapped unexpectedly.

True Dough

(17,255 posts)
37. I am definitely torn
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 07:13 AM
Mar 2022

The way Will shouted twice afterwards made me think that maybe it was authentic, even though the slap does look very tame. Given a "free shot," a man the size of Will Smith, who has some pugilistic training, could have stunned Chris Rock into prolonged silence, even with a slap.

What also has me questioning this incident is Will's expression in the seconds after delivering the blow. If you pause the video and watch it in slow motion, Will still has a smile on his face after hitting Chris. That doesn't fit the tone of the moment.

But I'm also baffled as to why the two of them would continue to play along afterwards and not reveal that they had staged the confrontation.

It's bizarre. Maybe Will just showed a modicum of self-restraint when hitting Chris with a rather mild slap?

Earth-shine

(3,960 posts)
45. Looks like a fake "Hollywood" slap to me with exaggerated action and no physical contact.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 08:16 AM
Mar 2022

I doubt the incident was planned in advance.

In general, I like Chris Rock. But, I found the joke to be neither funny nor appropriate.

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