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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWill Smith suckered punched Chris Rock. He never said a word to Rock as he walked up to him.
Will Smith has issues. He could have waited and found Chris Rock back stage and gave him what for. He could have reminded Rock about his wife condition. Will Smith laughed at the joke, then he saw his wife was upset and he snapped.
At first I thought it was an act, because the joke was not that bad. Don Rickles made a career out of insulting people. I don't think Rock was insulting her condition. Maybe he didn't know about it or forgot about her condition. He was making a joke about her short hair. Then the sound cut out and you could see Will Smith was not acting. It was strange.
tman
(983 posts)fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Dr. Strange
(25,916 posts)Paper beats rock.
catsudon
(839 posts)because paper beat rock
stole this one from 1000's of joke this morning.
who would've thought i should've never laugh at george costanza's bold joke.
Emile
(22,479 posts)What violent thing Will Smith will do next?
multigraincracker
(32,635 posts)needs some mental health help. Dismissing it as humor is pretty sick too.
Emile
(22,479 posts)myself I don't let it bother me. Nothing wrong with laughing. Physical violence is not healthy!
multigraincracker
(32,635 posts)is a credit to him and shows his pain didnt mean a thing to him. Most men wouldnt take a slap as violence either. A knock out punch would have been.
We all have our opinion, neither matter to them.
Native
(5,936 posts)Emile
(22,479 posts)Native
(5,936 posts)Emile
(22,479 posts)Native
(5,936 posts)Emile
(22,479 posts)Native
(5,936 posts)Emile
(22,479 posts)Native
(5,936 posts)Emile
(22,479 posts)Native
(5,936 posts)Emile
(22,479 posts)Can we at least agree on that?
Native
(5,936 posts)I think everyone can agree on that. Even if Chris Rock had let loose a string of grotesque invectives all aimed at Jada, hitting him would have still been a crime (assuming he pressed charges).
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,321 posts)So, no comparison.
If, that is, Demi Moore actually got the buzz-cut, if it wasn't make-up and CGI.
Maybe have Billy Crystal host next year, or Jimmy Kimmel, Tom Hanks, Al Franken, Morgan Freeman. There would be more respect.
Native
(5,936 posts)Bucky
(53,936 posts)Cause seriously, that's a doozy
Renew Deal
(81,844 posts)Mel Gibson got roles and directing opportunities long after people know he had issues. And he's far from the only one.
Emile
(22,479 posts)You would be wondering if this person will show up to work someday armed and angry.
Tomconroy
(7,611 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)To be able to stand up and accept the award after he did that? What have we reduced ourselves to?
samnsara
(17,604 posts)FBaggins
(26,721 posts)There was no deception or distraction. He walked right up to him and slapped him.
It may not have been appropriate - but it wasnt unprovoked.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Will Smith never said a word and if you watch the video Smith had his head down as he walked up to Rock. After he hit him, as he walked back he had a smirk on his face. That was a sucker punch. It was a slap but Will Smith swung hard and he is a pretty big guy.
What would people be saying if Rock fell and hit his head and was injured.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Found this polluting my Twitter feed this morning. I suspect a lot of "pop culturists" will think this is bigger news than war in Europe. How many Americans can name more actors than find countries on a map?
Link to tweet
samnsara
(17,604 posts)..i was enjoying the oscars..it was so well done until there was a freaking fight on the stage.
FBaggins
(26,721 posts)Rock chose to make a public joke out of someone's disability. There isn't any excuse for that.
Smith's reaction was excessive, but it's hard for me to think of him as a "jerk" for it. If someone insulted my wife in that way I would like to think that I would restrain myself, but there's a difference between a snap reaction and a conscious choice to offend.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)He was comparing her haircut to GI Jane. So what? I don't see that as an insult. Her hair looks good short. Before Rock said the joke he said you know I love you.
FBaggins
(26,721 posts)I didn't say he chose to insult her. I said that he chose to make a joke out of her disability.
There's no way to spin Rock's "humor" as appropriate - he was definitely being a jerk. The only question is whether he got what he deserved. I would have preferred it if Smith used his time on stage to call him out for his insensitivity... but of course he probably didn't know that he would get any stage time.
Sympthsical
(9,035 posts)Let's get some proportion here.
Yes, alopecia sucks, but throwing around that Jada Pinkett Smith is a disabled woman because of it has been one of the goofier bits of the internet this morning.
If I didn't learn about her condition because of this, I would've assumed she shaved her head for a role like most other people watching, because most of the world isn't attached to People magazine and terrible day time talk shows.
FBaggins
(26,721 posts)Going bald is a very common thing for a man in his 60s.
A six year old losing his hair due to cancer or a woman losing her hair due to alopecia is no more an appropriate subject for public ridicule/humor than a disability is.
If I didn't learn about her condition because of this, I would've assumed she shaved her head for a role like most other people watching, because most of the world isn't attached to People magazine and terrible day time talk shows.
Chris Rock isn't just some guy who wouldn't know of her condition if he didn't read People. He's known the couple for many years. It isn't reasonable to spin that he didn't know of her condition. You couldn't be expected to know (I certainly didn't)... but he doesn't have the same excuse.
Sympthsical
(9,035 posts)Would I start tossing it around as a mitigating factor to even partially justify violence as many are now doing?
Also a no.
Words have meanings. "Her disability!" Jesus. Well that word just means anything now, doesn't it? I sunburn rather easily, because I'm ghostly celtic pale folk. If I go for a hike and forget the sunscreen, please do not mock me for my disability. It's a chronic condition I must bravely live with by putting on lotion and avoiding the sun.
It's just silliness that I cannot take seriously. Behold the umbrage, for it is important and pixelated.
If Rock knew (which is an if), it was shitty of him. But given these sensitive standards and the great gravity of offense, Ricky Gervais must be literally Hitler this morning.
SergeStorms
(19,182 posts)about not receiving the best actor award for 'Ali'. He accused everyone in the Academy of being racist, but only to him. He's always been full of himself.
DenaliDemocrat
(1,474 posts)All arm, no hip rotation- I give this a D - for technical elements
SergeStorms
(19,182 posts)I've read that's critiqued Smith's style anyway.
DenaliDemocrat
(1,474 posts)He obviously didnt retain his training. That was technically terrible. He outweighs Chris by at least 50 lbs and has six inches on him. Didnt even make him stumble. Either that or Chris has an iron jaw and feet of stone.
Wingus Dingus
(8,052 posts)act like a lunatic. It's like he forgot where he was, or that the ceremony wasn't 100 percent about him and his wife. He ruined it for everybody. I can't believe anyone's excusing it. It's not like Chris Rock taunted their weird-ass open marriage or something.
Emile
(22,479 posts)SergeStorms
(19,182 posts)It's always 100% about him or his family. I really like some of the roles he's played, but he's too full of himself in his personal life. But that's him. We all have our idiosyncrasies.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)Only difference is they punch.
Rock knew what was coming. He tried to joke about it. I give Rock credit for taking the slap he had coming.
It would have been cool if he slipped it.
Oneironaut
(5,485 posts)uponit7771
(90,301 posts)fishwax
(29,148 posts)He was tested in a moment of weakness and found wanting. Such things happen.
Xoan
(25,311 posts)Didn't think so.
Bucky
(53,936 posts)Walking up to Rock he gave him all the warning he needed, so there's no "sucker"
And it was a slap, so there's no "punch"
Paladin
(28,243 posts)"A vigorous, fully-realized hand job to every filthy racist in the country."
Will Smith and his wife could have ended Chris Rock's career this morning, with a restrained, factual press conference. Look how things now stand, on account of that "no 'sucker' slap."
I'm so glad your standards weren't ever advocated for last week's Supreme Court hearings.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)He had no idea Smith was going to hit him. Smith said nothing and he was looking down as he approached Chris and then, Boom! Yes, it was a slap, a very hard slap. It was a sucker shot.
albacore
(2,398 posts)Jspur
(578 posts)I have accepted this is 24/7 deal with the Republicans. This is nothing new.