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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAbramovich & Ukrainian delegates suffered from suspected poisoning at peace talks
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Bellingcat
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Bellingcat can confirm that three members of the delegation attending the peace talks between Ukraine and Russia on the night of 3 to 4 March 2022 experienced symptoms consistent with poisoning with chemical weapons. One of victims was Russian entrepreneur Roman Abramovich.
Max Colchester
@MaximColch
Scoop: Abramovich suffered suspected poisoning along with Ukraine peace negotiators earlier this month. Full Story on @WSJ shortly
Abramovich, along with another Russian entrepreneur, had taken part in the negotiations alongside Ukraines MP Rustem Umerov. The negotiation round on the afternoon of 3 March took place on Ukrainian territory, and lasted until about 10 pm.
Three members of the negotiating team retreated to an apartment in Kyiv later that night and felt initial symptoms - including eye and skin inflammation and piercing pain in the eyes - later that night. The symptoms did not abate until the morning.
8:30 AM · Mar 28, 2022
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Bellingcat
@bellingcat
Bellingcat can confirm that three members of the delegation attending the peace talks between Ukraine and Russia on the night of 3 to 4 March 2022 experienced symptoms consistent with poisoning with chemical weapons. One of victims was Russian entrepreneur Roman Abramovich.
Max Colchester
@MaximColch
Scoop: Abramovich suffered suspected poisoning along with Ukraine peace negotiators earlier this month. Full Story on @WSJ shortly
Abramovich, along with another Russian entrepreneur, had taken part in the negotiations alongside Ukraines MP Rustem Umerov. The negotiation round on the afternoon of 3 March took place on Ukrainian territory, and lasted until about 10 pm.
Three members of the negotiating team retreated to an apartment in Kyiv later that night and felt initial symptoms - including eye and skin inflammation and piercing pain in the eyes - later that night. The symptoms did not abate until the morning.
8:30 AM · Mar 28, 2022
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Abramovich & Ukrainian delegates suffered from suspected poisoning at peace talks (Original Post)
Nevilledog
Mar 2022
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Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)1. Oligarch tried to poison negotiators...
And got himself in the process?
Putin not sending his best assassins.
iemanja
(53,032 posts)3. Maybe Putin did
and he has it out for Abramovich.
Nevilledog
(51,099 posts)2. HuffPost article
Link to tweet
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ukrainian-peace-negotiators-poisoning-russians_n_6241d409e4b0d7ac3d4fddc9?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=Twitter
Three Ukrainian peace negotiators showed signs of poisoning after meeting their Russian counterparts earlier this month, including Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich, whos been enlisted to facilitate discussions.
Sources told The Wall Street Journal members of the group developed red eyes, constant and painful tearing, and peeling skin on their faces and hands soon after their March 3 meeting.
The report was corroborated by the investigative journalism website Bellingcat, which added the symptoms subsided over the next week and their lives are not in danger.
A source with direct knowledge of the matter told The Guardian Abramovich lost his sight for several hours and required treatment in Turkey.
*the end*
Wingus Dingus
(8,052 posts)4. That is some crazy shit. I don't get the purpose behind it.
Nevilledog
(51,099 posts)5. Bellingcat thread
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1508463513013997580.html
Bellingcat can confirm that three members of the delegation attending the peace talks between Ukraine and Russia on the night of 3 to 4 March 2022 experienced symptoms consistent with poisoning with chemical weapons. One of victims was Russian entrepreneur Roman Abramovich.
Abramovich, along with another Russian entrepreneur, had taken part in the negotiations alongside Ukraines MP Rustem Umerov. The negotiation round on the afternoon of 3 March took place on Ukrainian territory, and lasted until about 10 pm.
Three members of the negotiating team retreated to an apartment in Kyiv later that night and felt initial symptoms - including eye and skin inflammation and piercing pain in the eyes - later that night. The symptoms did not abate until the morning.
The next day the group of negotiators drove from Kyiv to Lviv on the way to Poland and then Istanbul, to continue informal negotiations with the Russian side. A Bellingcat investigator was asked to help provide an examination by chemical weapons specialists.
Based on remote and on-site examinations, the experts concluded that the symptoms are most likely the result of international poisoning with an undefined chemical weapon.
An alternative less likely hypothesis was use of microwave irradiation. The symptoms gradually subsided in the course of the following week.
The three men experiencing the symptoms consumed only chocolate and water in the hours before the symptoms appeared. A fourth member of the team who also consumed these did not experience symptoms.
According to two consulted CW experts and a doctor, the symptoms were most consistent with variants of porphyrin, organophosphates, or bicyclic substances. A definitive determination was not possible due to the absence of specialized laboratory equipment near the victims.
The experts said the dosage and type of toxin used was likely insufficient to cause life-threatening damage, and most likely was intended to scare the victims as opposed to cause permanent damage. The victims said they were not aware of who might have had an interest in an attack
Bellingcat chose not to report this story earlier due to concern about the safety of the victims. Given the choice of the targeted individuals to speak up, Bellingcat and its investigative partner @the_ins_ru intend to publish an investigation into the presumed poisonings.
Additional reporting by the WSJ
Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian Peace Negotiators Suffer Suspected Poisoning
The Russian oligarch and at least two senior members of the Ukrainian team developed symptoms that they blamed on hard-liners in Moscow who they said wanted to sabotage talks to end the war.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/roman-abramovich-and-ukrainian-peace-negotiators-suffer-symptoms-of-suspected-poisoning-11648480493
Roman Abramovich confirms through a spokesperson that he "suffered symptoms of suspected poisoning"
Abramovich suffered suspected poisoning at talks
Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich suffered suspected poisoning at peace talks in Ukraine this month, an Abramovich spokesperson says.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60904676
Bellingcat can confirm that three members of the delegation attending the peace talks between Ukraine and Russia on the night of 3 to 4 March 2022 experienced symptoms consistent with poisoning with chemical weapons. One of victims was Russian entrepreneur Roman Abramovich.
Abramovich, along with another Russian entrepreneur, had taken part in the negotiations alongside Ukraines MP Rustem Umerov. The negotiation round on the afternoon of 3 March took place on Ukrainian territory, and lasted until about 10 pm.
Three members of the negotiating team retreated to an apartment in Kyiv later that night and felt initial symptoms - including eye and skin inflammation and piercing pain in the eyes - later that night. The symptoms did not abate until the morning.
The next day the group of negotiators drove from Kyiv to Lviv on the way to Poland and then Istanbul, to continue informal negotiations with the Russian side. A Bellingcat investigator was asked to help provide an examination by chemical weapons specialists.
Based on remote and on-site examinations, the experts concluded that the symptoms are most likely the result of international poisoning with an undefined chemical weapon.
An alternative less likely hypothesis was use of microwave irradiation. The symptoms gradually subsided in the course of the following week.
The three men experiencing the symptoms consumed only chocolate and water in the hours before the symptoms appeared. A fourth member of the team who also consumed these did not experience symptoms.
According to two consulted CW experts and a doctor, the symptoms were most consistent with variants of porphyrin, organophosphates, or bicyclic substances. A definitive determination was not possible due to the absence of specialized laboratory equipment near the victims.
The experts said the dosage and type of toxin used was likely insufficient to cause life-threatening damage, and most likely was intended to scare the victims as opposed to cause permanent damage. The victims said they were not aware of who might have had an interest in an attack
Bellingcat chose not to report this story earlier due to concern about the safety of the victims. Given the choice of the targeted individuals to speak up, Bellingcat and its investigative partner @the_ins_ru intend to publish an investigation into the presumed poisonings.
Additional reporting by the WSJ
Roman Abramovich and Ukrainian Peace Negotiators Suffer Suspected Poisoning
The Russian oligarch and at least two senior members of the Ukrainian team developed symptoms that they blamed on hard-liners in Moscow who they said wanted to sabotage talks to end the war.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/roman-abramovich-and-ukrainian-peace-negotiators-suffer-symptoms-of-suspected-poisoning-11648480493
Roman Abramovich confirms through a spokesperson that he "suffered symptoms of suspected poisoning"
Abramovich suffered suspected poisoning at talks
Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich suffered suspected poisoning at peace talks in Ukraine this month, an Abramovich spokesperson says.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60904676
Donkees
(31,398 posts)6. Podoliak dismisses allegations about poisoning of Ukraine's negotiators.
The Kyiv Independent
@KyivIndependent
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⚡️Podoliak dismisses allegations about poisoning of Ukraine's negotiators.
The Wall Street Journal reported that 3 participants of the Ukraine-Russia talks on March 3 had experienced symptoms of suspected poisoning. They are two Ukrainians and Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich.
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@KyivIndependent
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In a comment to Hromadske news outlet, Mykhailo Podoliak, an advisor to presidential administration, dismissed the allegation as speculation, adding that all Ukrainian negotiators are working as usual.