OK, where was the insult ?! Demi Moore In 1997 GI Jane is BEAUTIFUL !!

[uponit7771]

If Demi Moore's looks in GI Jane are an "insult" then people have some really fucked up standards when it comes to women's looks !!

I'd give my left middle toe to look like the male version of Demi Moore in GI Jane

EDIT: From what I've read so far rock **DID NOT** know about her condition

[yagotme]

1. I must be old, or dense, or both...

I didn't "get" it either.

[pnwmom]

75. Jada Pinkett-Smith and that fictional character are NOT THE SAME.

Jada has spoken publicly about how devastating her hair loss has been, and that's why she's shaving her head now.

Chris Rock, as the producer and narrator of Good Hair, knows this. And he knows how devastating it is for millions of women, including about half of Black women.

It was a cruel joke and he was wrong to make it. Period.

[yagotme]

80. I was initially unaware of her condition.

I know that some women cut their hair close to allow them to wear wigs more easily, therefore, the joke didn't make a lot of sense to me. I saw a fit woman being compared to another fit woman, and it went right over my head. Knowing what I know now, I agree that the joke was tasteless. Not deserving an assault, a boo or heckle would have sufficed. (I don't follow the Hollywood crowd, so I wasn't aware of her medical condition, or who knew what, when.)

[Emile]

2. Bald is beautiful!

[pnwmom]

77. Jada has suffered from her alopecia, and this joke just added to her pain.

And to the pain of the millions of women who do suffer from alopecia, including almost half of Black women.

[Emile]

86. I have alopecia, you calling us ugly?

[mcar]

93. Please point to where the poster said that

[Emile]

94. The poster was replying to my post Bald is Beautiful.

[mcar]

96. I am aware of that

Please point to where the poster called you ugly.

[Emile]

97. Apparently you are not aware I asked a question.

[underpants]

3. That was filmed in Richmond but that's not the point either

Rock was making fun of a medical condition

That being said

[leftstreet]

8. ...

[uponit7771]

16. From what I've read so far rock **DID NOT** know about her condition

[Cha]

39. I hope not.. I would like to see a link to

that if possible.. because Demi Moore shaved her head for a film.. Jada Smith's Alopecia devasting her is an entirely different story.

💙💛

[uponit7771]

41. Not everyone keeps up with the color of the Smiths underwear to expect Rock to know this and...

... it to justify wills reaction is still wrong.

I know TOO MANY women who wear their hair short and are beautiful and wouldn't take being compared to another athletic beautiful women as an insult.

What Smith did was WRONG ... fake hyper masculinity isn't something we should justify looking at what is happening around the world

[underpants]

60. Hadn't heard that. Still I'd think someone got an idea what he was going to do

and knew about her condition.

[mcar]

62. I don't believe that

JPS has been open about her struggles with alopecia for quite some time.

Making a joke about a bald woman is at least as distasteful as making a joke about a bald man.

What if she had cancer and was undergoing treatment? Would it be funny then?

That said, Smith was wrong.

[uponit7771]

63. Everyone doesn't keep up with the color of the Smiths underwear. I have a cousin who had ...

... shoulder surgery and we fairly keep in touch and I HAD NO IDEA.

Making a joke about a bald woman is at least as distasteful as making a joke about a bald man.

Again, how is comparing Jada to a beautiful athletic badass a "joke about a bald woman" !? Is that ALL Rock had in mind with the joke was her hair ?! REALLY ?!?!


Demi Moore was more than "bald woman" in GI Jane, come on people ... she still remembered for taking some Ls but getting more Ws in that movie.

[mcar]

92. Who is suggesting that people keep in touch with color

of the Smiths' underwear? What an odd thing to say.

Chris Rock is a celebrity - he's also a comedian who was booked to be on the Oscars last night. Do you really think he wasn't aware of JPS's alopecia. Seriously? If that's the case, he's a moron.

Again, how is comparing Jada to a beautiful athletic badass a "joke about a bald woman" !? Is that ALL Rock had in mind with the joke was her hair ?! REALLY ?!?!

You keep saying that and it makes no sense. Rock made a bald joke, regardless of the reference to Demi Moore 20+ years ago. If what you state is true and he didn't know about her alopecia, did he know she wasn't being treated for cancer? I know some women who have lost their hair due to COVID. Do you think that's funny?

Smith was 100% wrong to behave as he did. Rock was 100% wrong to tell a tasteless joke about someone's appearance - and to later say, oh gee, I didn't know is irrelevant. Comparing JPS's baldness to a female actor who willingly, for a role, for money, shaved her head, is disingenuous to say the least.

[pnwmom]

78. He was the producer and narrator of the documentary Good Hair.

He knows how common alopecia is among Black women, and that many of them shave their heads and/or wear wigs as a result.

He should have known that this wasn't a safe topic to joke about with Jada.

[lindysalsagal]

85. Agreed. You don't insult the women of your tribe for a quick, cheap laugh.

He was trying to hurt her, and it would become a permanent joke, never going away. It was unprovoked. There were dozens of funnier things he could have said about lots of people. He chose her out of all of them. I understand Will wanting to stop him.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

4. No matter what you think of her appearance, it was a punchline for a long time.

There’s also a huge difference in one’s appearance being a choice, and one’s appearance being changed for them.

[uponit7771]

17. From what I've read so far rock **DID NOT** know about her condition

[ripcord]

5. Jada didn't have a choice or get paid a large amount of money to lose her hair

I doubt she or many others who have lost their hair to medical conditions found it funny, my niece lost her hair to chemo and it was very traumatic for her. Mocking medical conditions and deformities it freak show level humor, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

7. This 👆

[uponit7771]

10. From what I've read so far rock **DID NOT** know about her condition and even if he did

... the comparison SHOULD have been a compliment.

Not understanding how comparing Jada to a beautiful bad ass was "mocking" !?!

[ripcord]

23. It is obvious Jada didn't think the comparison was humorous

But I suppose since it was "humor" her opinion doesn't matter.

[uponit7771]

31. She was compared to a beautiful athletic bad ass AT MINIMUM that's a misunderstanding and not

... situation to go emotionally slap someone.

Smith laughed at it at first because he knew the movie ...

[orleans]

99. my 30-something daughter & i were talking about this today

she asked me:
"how is being compared to a strong, courageous, beautiful warrior an insult?"

[Cha]

40. Exactly.. It's Jada's Opinion that

counts.. and unfortunately Will Smith made an idiot of himself over it. No Excuse for violence.

💙💛

[ripcord]

42. This should be simple

Chris Rock owes Jada an apology and Will Smith owes Rock the same.

[Cha]

47. You're absolutely right..

💙💛

[MustLoveBeagles]

89. Your right on both points

Two wrongs don't make a right.

[uponit7771]

52. +1, That's why I'm asking. I'm married to a black women who wears her hair short and is FINE AS

... ALL GET OUT!

Just got of the phone with my niece saying she would take it as a compliment to be compared to an athletic beautiful bad ass in the movie.

I'm just thinking maybe I'm missing something in Smith's reaction to Jada's opinion justifying battery towards someone on live TV for being back handed complimented.

[Baitball Blogger]

18. I think it's insensitive that the other DUers are not getting this point.

Frankly, I didn't realize Jada had a medical condition. I just thought it was a phenomenal styling choice for her to wear short hair. But, that's what strong women do. It still doesn't mean that they don't carry a lot of hurt inside, and if Chris Rock was a really close friend he would have known about this pain. It was a betrayal if he used her for a quick laugh.

[uponit7771]

32. She was compared to a beautiful athletic bad ass AT MINIMUM that's a misunderstanding and not

... a situation where its justified to smack someone.

[pinkstarburst]

57. Are you being purposefully dense?

Demi Moore had a choice.

Jada Pinkett Smith did not.

This is like comparing rape to consensual sex.

And I do not see anyone saying it is okay to smack someone. What I do see is some misogynistic posters trying to justify why it's okay to belittle and mock women for their appearance and medical conditions.

Chris Rock was 100% wrong for his abelist, misogynistic, harmful comments about Jada. He should apologize. Why hasn't he?

Will Smith was 100% wrong for smacking him. He at least, did apologize.

[uponit7771]

61. Comparing Jada to a beautiful athletic Demi More is "belittling" ?!?! I'm not getting this at all ..

... despite your obvious reflexive ad hom and deflection back to her feelings vs Smiths petulant wrong actions.

She can feel how she feels for whatever reason the justification for the slap ***IN LIGHT OF HER BEIN COMPARED A BEUATIFUL WOMEN*** is the question of the OP.

He at least, did apologize.

He did not apologize to Chris Rock and is STILL trying to bullshit justify battery in public.

What Will Smith did was ***WRONG*** and on the FACE OF IT unjustified ... PERIOD

[Jim__]

6. Smith, and apparently his wife, took it as a reference to her alopecia.

Smith originally laughed but then saw his wife was upset. That's my understanding.

[Jim__]

11. It doesn't excuse it, but it could explain it.

It may have been an emotional reaction on his part. Emotions can cause us to react badly in a situation, especially when you think a loved one has been hurt.

[uponit7771]

13. From what I've read so far rock **DID NOT** know about her condition

[Bettie]

21. Seems that a lot of people think that doesn't matter

or that he should have somehow guessed or something.

I've seen a number of well-known women cut off all of their hair in recent years, as a fashion choice or statement.

And yes, from what I've seen, he didn't know about her condition and even if he did, there are better ways to deal with it than running on stage and hitting him. Heck, I taught my kids that hitting another person is wrong by the age of four. My middle one was a slow learner and had to be reminded.

[uponit7771]

36. +1, THIS !! I'm married to a black women who cuts her hair short cause she wants to and she

... is a knock out beautiful women long or short hair!!

And yes, from what I've seen, he didn't know about her condition and even if he did, there are better ways to deal with it than running on stage and hitting him. Heck, I taught my kids that hitting another person is wrong by the age of four. My middle one was a slow learner and had to be reminded.

THIS !! Putrid fucked around and found out what happens when he nakedly attacks someone WHO THINKS ... was weaker than him

[DURHAM D]

24. Why do you keep repeating this?

There is no evidence that this is true. Also, it was still a shit thing for Rock to insult the appearance of anyone.

[uponit7771]

38. Because people who normalizing fake ass manhood think there's a basis of even being insulted ...

... ***ON THE FACE OF IT*** after being compared to an athletic beautiful women.

Bullshit hyper masculinity has been normalized to make what Smith did justifiable even in the least.

IT NOT ... THAT'S WRONG.

[uponit7771]

29. It does need to be repeated, she was comparing her to an athletic beautiful person and it was taken

... as an insult.

People want to excuse hyper masculine emotionalism because its been too normalized in America

[treestar]

33. But there are women who wear their hair that way

Sinead O'Connor is one.

So if he did not know, he's just poking at her choice, in his mind.

[Solomon]

72. I know several women, including my boss, who wear their hair more shaved than Pinkett's, out of

choice. I didn't know about her medical condition and really thought the joke was about her being a bad ass, like the role she played in the Batman series.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

12. You seem very invested in this Black woman accepting a comparison as a compliment. Why?

[uponit7771]

14. Because I'm married to a black woman and have a daughter and NIETHER ONE are insulted with

... being compared to Demi Moore 1997

They're bueatiful and so was she

on the other hand people seemed to be very vested in support beta male level hyper masculinity (FAKE MANHOOD) because that's all they know.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

20. But they weren't the ones Chris Rock was talking to or about.

[uponit7771]

27. ... talking to my niece now and she WISHES she was the one CR was talking about cause she...

... understands GI Jane in 1997 was beautiful and fine and had short hair.

The INSULT is that short hair ... IS NOT ... beautiful maybe, no one is explaining how being compared to a cut up athletic beauty is an insult.

Nope, people want to excuse bitch level hyper masculinity and emotionalism because that's what's been normalized in American society.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

30. Okay, but she wasn't the one Chris Rock was talking to, so...

[uponit7771]

46. True, then there has to be a tempering .. BY SMITH .. of the situation and not immature emotional...

... reactions like he did.

I'm sick of people even tacitly justifying what is wrong

[Torchlight]

48. Nice edit, but still your own unsupported assertion based on nothing more than your bias, correct?

"people seemed to be very vested in support beta male level hyper masculinity (FAKE MANHOOD) because that's all they know."

I'd be interested in seeing the data or evidence supporting that assertion.

[uponit7771]

53. No, fake as beta level hyper masculinity (emotional children) is wrong. That's not "bias" Jada ..

... can be insulted and Smith not be tacitly justified by people who should understand the consequences of STARTING violence in any situation.

[Torchlight]

54. Is that a medical diagnosis as per AMA or the APA?

Or an unsupported assertion predicated entirely on your own inferences? I ask only because you reference specific terms I see nowhere except MRA manifestos and publications (which can often be interesting, though very uncomfortable reading, tempting me to clean up after the read)




(On Edit: I'd still be interested in seeing the reports you profess to have read indicating Ms. Pinkett-Smith's condition was unknown to Mr. Rock)

[LexVegas]

15. I think Will was thinking of a different movie, "Indecent Proposal".

Jada cucks him and he is lashing out.

[uponit7771]

22. THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 Smith showed beta level emotionalism afterwards too and if this was a logical ..

... choice there wasn't going to be an outpouring.

There's NO DOUBT more deeper than comparing his wife to a beautiful women that was a bad ass in a movie.

[LexVegas]

26. I think he is in a toxic relationship and needs to get out. It's sad. nt

[Celerity]

37. he is getting roasted alive on twitter, etc

Link to tweet

[Torchlight]

28. Was Ms. Moore's hair removed due to a medical condition?

Seems absurdly biased (at best) to consistently ignore that very relevant information.

I would have though most adults learned in childhood to avoid commenting on the physical consequences of autoimmune diseases, or pretend to know the dynamics of marriages of people I've never met.

Could be a wonderfully germane moment for anyone who hasn't learned that lesson to begin.



(If you could point us to legitimate reporting that indicates Mr. Rock did not know about the condition of Ms. Pinkett-Smith's disease, that would certainly go towards establishing a good faith discussion on your part rather than how I'm currently reading it)

[Calista241]

34. Sounds like you're telling someone how they should feel

even despite a disability.

[Emile]

43. I have that disability and if I was told I looked like Dwayne Johnson it wouldn't

upset me.

[uponit7771]

49. No, not at all just that Smith reaction was *WRONG* and the situation didn't justify even tacitly

... someone smacking another person for being compared to an athletic bueatiful bad ass in a movie.

People are even tacitly justifying hyper masculinity because that's all they know and its been normalized in America.

No one says feel this or that ... done, but justifying battery for being compared to a beuatiful person is on its face silly.

[pandr32]

44. Also, Jada Smith proudly wore her cropped hair

She is a fierce, accomplished woman who was reduced to "my wife" by her egotistical nightmare of a husband.

[uponit7771]

51. yep, another good perspective. I don't have to "defend" my wife she could do 72 male pushups ...

... in the 10th grade.

Of course if things got physical with a guy I'm all in

I'm thinking people are accepting of bullshit hyper masculinity in America to the point they'd even tacitly thing Smiths bullshit is justified.

[pandr32]

56. Will Smith also stole Schumer's, Hall's, and Syke's moment

He showed no awareness of the significance of the night for them or Jada. He made it all about him. I'm so done with him.
He spoiled it all.

[uponit7771]

58. +1, I don't think people have seen the whole video. Smith's actions were text book self centerend

... since he laughed at first.

[pandr32]

59. Absolutely

[avebury]

45. The only observation that I would make is that there is a difference between

intentionally shaving off your hair for a movie role and a medical condition that results in hair loss. Not everybody that experiences medically generated hair loss will handle it in the same way.

[uponit7771]

50. True, I get that but someone being so hurt that they have to commit battery on another person ...

... on live TV because their loved on was compared to an athletic beautiful bad ass doesn't make since on its face.

Smith's reaction was emotional and he even LAUGHED at first because the comparison was apt but somehow Rocks joke got into her disease vs the looks WITHOUT PROOF.

[GumboYaYa]

55. I started losing my hair in late high school and was prematurely bald by the time I graduated

from college. It wasn't exactly fun at eighteen to have a receding hairline. I have heard every bald joke in the book over the past 35 years. Not once have I hauled off and hit someone over it.

[usedtobedemgurl]

64. Ever compliment a cancer patient...

On how much weight she has lost? If not, why not? Have you not had the chance but you would if you did? Did you have a chance to compliment a cancer patient on their weight loss but decided that would be crass and not welcome? Would you jump at the chance to tell a cancer patient a compliment on her weight?

Spoiler alert: the answer should be you never would. The reason is the same reason Rock’s “joke” was so freaking rude and should never have been said.

[uponit7771]

66. Yes I have, my mother in law and she didn't want to hear it at the time and I *KNEW* she had ...

... cancer.

I had aphasia and people would be OPENLY insensitive about the way I talked (much like Biden) ...... BUT ... BUT

If I was compared to sounding like James Earl Jones ... ***WHILE*** ... having aphasia I don't think I would react with so much hurt.

Again, Jada was compared to a beautiful badass in a shero movie and people want to narrow the comparison down to hair ?!?!

Rock even emoted after the slap that he was talking about GI JANE !!!

A total badass

[usedtobedemgurl]

91. Was she compared?

I have many problems, right now, from an accident. They include memory issues along with not being able to comprehend certain things and even trouble reading. I say all this so you will know I am not trying to be a smart ass. From my recollection, Rock said GI Jane is waiting for Jada.

I know you can say Moore had a bald head and Jada had a bald head, so Jada is a perfect fit. The only thing I recall (and so admit I watched the uncensored version and was sitting in shock) is Rock saying the role is waiting for her. The only connection I saw was both ladies had a bald head, but Rock (again, trying to trust my memory) said there was a role for her.

I have never seen Jada in a kick ass role, maybe there are some, but I know her from A Different World. (Hope that is right. Again - memory!) I cannot recall her being in a kick ass movie. I did not hear Rock say,”You know what? Moore was a beautiful and kick ass woman. I have seen you in many powerful kick ass roles, and so can assure you there is a role open for you.

If I date someone with short hair and they are an ass, I do not assume everyone with short hair is an ass. The only thing so took from what so can recall is one bald woman kicked ass in a movie, so Jada can too.

I am seriously open to anything I do not remember saying. And I hope to goddess if so ever get cancer, no one ever compliments my weight. I am sure your mother-in-law abs you must have a special relationship. Good for you. ❤️ I hope it always remains that way.

Different people have different experiences. Also part of what I am experiencing is stuttering. The stress got that bad five months after my accident. I accidentally answered my phone one day, because I woke from a sleep. It was one of my closest friends. She heard my stutter and laughed. I know she would never hurt me purposely. It was a nervous laugh, because I had not told her and it was a surprise. I got off the phone and cried. I have only talked when I absolutely had to, ever since.

If someone compared me to James Earl Jones, I would be mortified that out of all my qualities, they felt they had to comment on stuttering, instead of something more positive about me. I am not sure I would speak to them again.

[uponit7771]

102. "The only connection I saw was both ladies had a bald head," REALLY ?! Jada was a badass shero

... in her last movie and so was GI Jane!!

I believe these sheros are more than just hairdos

I pray for your fast healing in regards to the injuries

I have a brain injury and that's where my aphasia comes up with in situations of good or bad stress.

Get plenty of rest and keep your blood sugar stable, wild fluctuations in my blood sugar would cause seizures at first and still cause migraines now.

[usedtobedemgurl]

104. Thank you for your well wishes.

I also appreciate the advice. That is something none of the professionals (I have seen 13 altogether - some overlapping, as when a pt was only equipped to handle sports injuries and falls. He admitted he was out of his league with me, so I saw another pt and, finally, a third pt! Even my concussion specialist said nothing about sugar levels. (Not that I remember - which is why my guy goes with me to all appointments).

I was told, by a memory specialist, my memory loss is due to severe PTSD. Could not get an appointment until June!!!! So, here I am living with this.

The worst part is my memory. Not being able to walk without assistance or the pain is a distant second. Yesterday I took a shower and noticed my arm really hurt. I looked down and it was red. When I got out of the shower, I took a closer look. There were two burns on my arm. Both have blisters. I assume I got it cooking breakfast, but who knows? I cannot remember how I got it, no matter how I try.

I have been fearful of using the stove, ever since my accident. I leave it on when I am done. I try to cook when it is not on. I remember burning myself several times. You just really need a dr to tell you to sto, so you can order Doir Dash and be reimbursed. Even without a note, I have done Door Dash weekly, because I am too dizzy or in too much pain to cook. I may not get reimbursed, but I feel safer.

I hope you stay well and your advice made my day, so thank you!!!!!

[honest.abe]

65. Totally inappropriate insensitive comment

Not sure I would have done what Will Smith did but I dont blame him either.

[uponit7771]

67. Even if he didn't know about her condition? tia

[honest.abe]

69. What makes you think he didnt know?

Seems her condition was fairly well known. Right?

[uponit7771]

70. Everyone I've talked to today LOVE the Smiths, are black women and did NOT know about her

... hair condition.

Please help me out here cause no one wants to shoot me straight.

Lets say he did know about her condition, how is narrowing the WHOLE CHARACTER of GI Jain to just hair the correct thinking ?!?!

GI Jane was an athletic beautiful badass shero ... why do people think the ONLY aspect of GI Jane Rock was talking about was her hair?!

Thx in advance

[honest.abe]

74. I dont know but from Will and Jada's point of view it was inappropriate and insulting.

My wife is also struggling with appearance issues and if someone joked about them I might freak out too.

[Torchlight]

76. Any chance you'll provide links to your assertion Rock was ignorant of her condition?

That alone would go a long way in establishing good-faith that you are shooting straight'

Any legitimate stories dated Sunday or later will do.
Thx in advance.

[uponit7771]

82. No links just what I heard on CNN, they KNEW each other but he didn't exactly know about ...

... condition.

Lets say he DID know ...

I have aphasia after a bad accident, if someone said I sound like Morgan Freeman now I don't know if I'd slap the shit out of them because of it.

Jus sayin

[Torchlight]

83. I kinda guessed you'd offer nothing to substantiate your assertion.

If I'd told an aphasia sufferer they sound like the public defender in My Cousin Vinny, it's all in good fun, and most likely a compliment of the highest order, right?




(just saying: a phrase used to indicate that we refuse to defend a claim we've made---in other words, that we refuse to offer reasons that what we've said is true. Source: Urban Dictionary)

[uponit7771]

84. Yes if the PD in my cousin Vinny was a badass but even if the person wasn't I wouldn't go into

... smack down mode because of it.

I'd let the person know that wasn't cool and go about my business.

[Whiskeytide]

90. But that's exactly the point. You might not go "into ...

… smack down mode”, but you WOULD be offended, right? And so might your significant other.

So it therefore should be perfectly clear that Will Smith had every right to be offended. He didn’t have the right to go into smack down mode, but he - and Jada - certainly had no reason to take the joke as a compliment, as you OP suggests.

There is no excuse for what Smith did. But it would be silly to EXPECT his response to be “Hey Chris, thanks for making a joke about my wife’s medical condition because the bald woman you compared her to was pretty hot in that movie she made about being bald”.

[uponit7771]

101. Of course MALICIOUSLY mocking a persons disability isn't funny but people are YET to explain ...

... how being compared to a beautiful badass shero is "mocking" a disability or sickness !!!

Is it because GI Jane is white?

I'm not getting it and neither are enough people in the real world ..

[ecstatic]

68. Not only that, she was strong, powerful and overcame intense obstacles

Maybe that's what Chris Rock meant when he kept saying it's a "GI Jane" joke (ffs).

[uponit7771]

71. RIGHT !!! I've been repeating this as fast as I can type !! GI Jane was more than just hair or looks

... she was a 100% shero badass.

I have aphasia and stutter much like Biden but if someone compared my voice to Morgan Freeman I don't think I would react by slapping someone

[ecstatic]

73. lol! nt

[Whiskeytide]

79. I've yet to decide if you're trolling or attempting to be sincere. But the ...

… difference between your take and what actually happened is pretty clear. Rocks reference was to Jada’s baldness. Not her overall, bad- ass, athletic hotness. He wasn’t complimenting her, and pretending that he was, or that it’s Jada’s fault for taking it as an insult because Moore looked “hot” bald, looks like deliberate obtuseness. It was an insult joke. Period.

Whether Rock knew about her medical condition or not, he was insulting her bald appearance. You cannot construct a scenario where that’s ok.

NONE of that justifies Will Smith’s conduct. What he did was wrong. But, believe it or not, it IS possible that they BOTH acted like dicks. There doesn’t have to be a good guy and a bad guy in all human interactions.

[uponit7771]

81. Disagree, Rock even emoted afterwards it was a joke about GI Jane. I DO NOT think ...

... Rock was narrowing either woman's WHOLE BEING to hair.

Assault is illegal, I'm not going to bothsides physical assault vs verbally being an ahole

[Whiskeytide]

88. I'm not both siding violence with insults either. But your ...

… OP is saying that Jada Smith should not have been insulted because Demi Moore looked good bald. I responded to that.

GI Jane was probably most notable as a film BECAUSE Demi Moore shaved her head for the role. Entertainment news shows lost their collective minds over it. Every promo pic had Moore with a shaved head. It was to the point that “GI Jane” became almost synonymous with the image of a bald woman. So to say that Rock meant anything other than an insult about Jada Smith’s baldness is silly. We all KNOW what he was referring to. He’s an insult comic for the most part - it’s kind of his act - and GI Jane = bald woman in Hollywood lingo. Again, he was not complimenting her. He didn’t say what he said as commentary on her attractiveness as a bald woman. He said it only because she’s bald.

Smith’s action was clearly assault. I’m not defending him, and the consequences should be more than an apology, certainly. But Rock’s joke was still rude and inappropriate. At the very least he should apologize for it.

And an Edit to add that I see now that he has apologized, and seemingly in a heartfelt and sincere way. I think that’s all he had to do.

[uponit7771]

103. NO, where's the insult in the JOKE !!! Not Jada's reaction ... I've made that clear as day. First ..

... a intent of maliciousness has to be inferred in the joke then the joke itself has to be related to a derisive character like Aunt Ester or someone.

No, Rock compared Jada to a beautiful badass shero ... like WTF ?!

Jada was insulted ... that's a given but bad INTENT relative to the ***FACTS*** aren't even close to being there.

[ripcord]

87. At least Chris Rock understands now what he did was wrong.

[mcar]

95. Good apology

but his grammar is execrable.

[uponit7771]

105. This is fake, please consider source CR has not officially apologized

https://hiphopdx.com/news/id.69122/title.chris-rocks-team-shoots-down-rumor-he-apologized-to-will-smith-jada-pinkett

[markpkessinger]

98. Making ANYONE's appearance, especially if resulting from a medical issue, the butt of a public joke

. . . is about as classless as it gets.

[uponit7771]

100. How is being compared to a beautiful badass shero a "butt of a joke" or are you minimizing ...

... GI Jane and Jada down to the subject of hair too?!

[markpkessinger]

106. When someone has a medical condition . . .

. . . it is u/89 p to THAT person and that person alone to decide if, whether and when to draw public attention to it. I am with Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-MA) on this. She Tweeted:

Our bodies are not public domain. They are not a line in a joke—especially when the transformation is not of our choosing.

I’m a survivor of violence. I'm a proud Alopecian. The psychological toll we carry daily is real. Team Jada always. That’s that on that.