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Snow Squall Causing Terrifying Accidents In Pennsylvania (Original Post) FelineOverlord Mar 2022 OP
At least three people died dalton99a Mar 2022 #1
For God's sake, never get out and stand by your car under those circumstances. If you get out, get dem4decades Mar 2022 #2
OMG. That is horrific. honest.abe Mar 2022 #3
If this happened on I-81 in the Poconos, then there's no slowing down on a slippery snow ARPad95 Mar 2022 #6
Well, I think given the conditions everyone should have been driving at a slow speed. honest.abe Mar 2022 #9
It's quite possible the drivers went from clear visibility to very low or no visibility in an ARPad95 Mar 2022 #12
Ok yes that is a possibility. honest.abe Mar 2022 #13
True, but... Tree-Hugger Mar 2022 #17
Very frightening. BlackSkimmer Mar 2022 #4
Maybe they should juice some driver ed into middle age drivers instead of just the 95 year olds bucolic_frolic Mar 2022 #5
That is a clear illustration of one of my pet peeves... Moostache Mar 2022 #7
Holy crap EarlG Mar 2022 #8
Indeed! 2naSalit Mar 2022 #11
wow that is some footage that guy got! IcyPeas Mar 2022 #10
That one tanker looks like it has some kind of compressed gas nt doc03 Mar 2022 #14
I wasn't there but I'm pretty sure this was a sudden white-out FakeNoose Mar 2022 #15
It was Tree-Hugger Mar 2022 #18
This is the world we made. Ron Green Mar 2022 #16
Yup. I'm always amazed at how few people die or are gravely Hortensis Mar 2022 #19
Dr. Oz Is On It! FelineOverlord Mar 2022 #20
Snow Squalls Near Philly FelineOverlord Mar 2022 #21
Had a weather alert come across on the phone peggysue2 Mar 2022 #22
As he was recording, you could HEAR more and more crashes happening! Talitha Mar 2022 #23

dem4decades

(11,288 posts)
2. For God's sake, never get out and stand by your car under those circumstances. If you get out, get
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 04:57 PM
Mar 2022

as far away as you can, off the road and up traffic from your car. That one guy was standing behind his car and his car was hit, luckily his car spun around him (it glanced him) but at least it didn't crush him. One of my college roommates was killed outside his car after a minor accident.

honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
3. OMG. That is horrific.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 04:59 PM
Mar 2022

That dude standing next to his car nearly got nailed. Why on earth was the person who crashed into his car driving so fast in such dangerous conditions? Crazy.

ARPad95

(1,671 posts)
6. If this happened on I-81 in the Poconos, then there's no slowing down on a slippery snow
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 05:10 PM
Mar 2022

covered highway going DOWN a mountainside.

Brakes are useless when the roads freeze and there's a sheet of black ice. Applying brakes on ice may even make it worse for the driver. Just put the car in the lowest gear and hope it slows down enough to maintain control.


honest.abe

(8,678 posts)
9. Well, I think given the conditions everyone should have been driving at a slow speed.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 05:20 PM
Mar 2022

It appeared that person was at least 40 mph. Way too fast for the conditions.

ARPad95

(1,671 posts)
12. It's quite possible the drivers went from clear visibility to very low or no visibility in an
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 05:43 PM
Mar 2022

instant during this type of snow storm. No time to slow down even if you're already driving cautiously for the weather conditions. Going downhill makes it even more likely for things to go crazy.

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
17. True, but...
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 06:29 PM
Mar 2022

I am from Pennsylvania. You can go from sunshine and blue skies to a white out within seconds. No exaggeration. That is why snow squalls are so dangerous. Today, in my area of PA, we have had fast, hard-hitting squalls all day and many happened while it was still sunny with partially blue skies.

bucolic_frolic

(43,146 posts)
5. Maybe they should juice some driver ed into middle age drivers instead of just the 95 year olds
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 05:00 PM
Mar 2022

If they can step away from raising their own salaries, expanding the secretarial pool, and authorizing more limo rides.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
7. That is a clear illustration of one of my pet peeves...
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 05:10 PM
Mar 2022

4x4 wheel drive DOES NOT HELP YOU STOP!!!!

The speeds those people were driving heading into a low/no visibility region was CRAZY...especially the tractor-trailers, that first one hit with NO BRAKES at all.

Sorry to the families that are broken tonight, their loss will never be lessened or understood.

EarlG

(21,947 posts)
8. Holy crap
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 05:18 PM
Mar 2022

I’m visiting an old friend in New York State for a few days and was literally on that exact stretch of road yesterday. I’m glad I decided to travel yesterday instead of today.

2naSalit

(86,580 posts)
11. Indeed!
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 05:39 PM
Mar 2022

Timing is important.

Once upon a time I was traveling with a friend, we were crossing half of Wyoming in winter, icy and cold with a storm coming in on the continental divide as we approached. We stopped for gas while it was still daylight and clear but for some reason the ignition key went in upside down or something and got stuck such that we could not start the car after filling up! It was my friend's car, older Buick. After about an hour wresting the thing out of the slot, we were over 100 miles from a locksmith, we were able to get on our way.

Close to an hour down the road there was a major pile up that shut down I80 for hours. We were lucky that there was a back route we could get to as a detour. Had we not had the incident with the key at the gas stop, we would have been in the middle of that wreck up on the divide. We were thankful we had such a small problem compared to the folks we were going down the road with who didn't stop for gas.

Glad you missed that whole mess!

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
15. I wasn't there but I'm pretty sure this was a sudden white-out
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 05:59 PM
Mar 2022

This can happen without notice, you're driving along at normal speed, along with the other traffic. Suddenly you come into a deep valley with a heavy snow squall and thick fog, and you can't see a thing. It happens that fast.

I think this guy pulled over, stopped and got out of his car. He didn't realize that the vehicles behind him were also going to hit the same white-out, and maybe they weren't smart enough to slow down and pull over.

In this case the problem wasn't the snow on the road, so much as the snow and fog in the air that was blocking the drivers' vision. I've seen white-outs on Interstate 80 and on the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Very scary!

Tree-Hugger

(3,370 posts)
18. It was
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 06:31 PM
Mar 2022

We've been having frequent snow squalls throughout the day all throughout PA. My own area has had several NWS warnings for squalls. Sunny one second, white out the next. Sometimes, both sun and snow concurrently.

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
16. This is the world we made.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 06:02 PM
Mar 2022

A transportation system operated almost entirely by amateur drivers, piloting machines designed to maximize comfort and convenience, and to minimize safety for anyone outside the vehicle. All this on roads designed to move as much traffic as possible as quickly as possible.

We’re perfectly willing to accept 100 deaths every day to maintain this system.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Yup. I'm always amazed at how few people die or are gravely
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 06:32 PM
Mar 2022

injured in traffic accidents. By far most accidents don't happen at all, presumably because people are sufficiently afraid of what can happen; and of those that do, the cars most often take most of the damage and protect the occupants.

We all decide for ourselves whether we want to take the real but very small risk. Not everyone who doesn't drive is unable to keep a car; some make other choices.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
22. Had a weather alert come across on the phone
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 07:03 PM
Mar 2022

We didn't get the snow in my area of Delaware Co (outside Philly) but the wind was ferocious and the temperature dropped like a rock. I'd just come out of ACME with the week's groceries and thought my hands would freeze off loading my order in the car.

Bizarre.





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