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demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 08:25 PM Mar 2022

Schiff: "The DOJ has a duty to act on this referral and others we have sent. Without enforcement...

Schiff: "The DOJ has a duty to act on this referral and others we have sent. Without enforcement of congressional subpoenas, there is no oversight."





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Schiff: "The DOJ has a duty to act on this referral and others we have sent. Without enforcement... (Original Post) demmiblue Mar 2022 OP
Absofuckingloutely! SheltieLover Mar 2022 #1
Spot on! gademocrat7 Mar 2022 #2
Garland is not the man for the moment. Let his step down tonight. n/t Peregrine Took Mar 2022 #3
I was going to say the same thing........ DENVERPOPS Mar 2022 #31
Garland should have never left his last job on the bench BlueIdaho Mar 2022 #4
Have gotten so disappointed with Garland that I've begun to wonder if he was one of those judges who allegorical oracle Mar 2022 #56
This is over if we lose mid-terms. Accountability, Rule of Law and Democracy will die. And the Evolve Dammit Mar 2022 #5
Sadly, with Biden have only a 40% approval Marius25 Mar 2022 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #40
Those are NBC poll numbers out this week. Marius25 Mar 2022 #48
Yes, the polls do look bad Wavelight Mar 2022 #47
Two different polls show generic dem/rep pols are EVEN ... good news for us uponit7771 Mar 2022 #49
Thank you Adam Schiff. c-rational Mar 2022 #6
Biden needs to fire Garland and put someone good in the AG position Marius25 Mar 2022 #7
like CONGRESSMAN ... JAMIE RASKIN !!! Trueblue1968 Mar 2022 #10
Yes. DeeDeeNY Mar 2022 #18
I Agree WiVoter Mar 2022 #37
Yes! Tacan Mar 2022 #58
Glad they are pushing. Can you imagine how frustrated they are? Scrivener7 Mar 2022 #9
I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt Etherealoc1 Mar 2022 #11
A thousand recs. Grasswire2 Mar 2022 #12
"doesn't want his presidency to be consumed by investigations of his predecessor" Earth-shine Mar 2022 #23
it's a gut punch to think that Grasswire2 Mar 2022 #25
It's the Democratic way. Obama did it, too. Earth-shine Mar 2022 #33
"privately told his advisors"... druidity33 Mar 2022 #50
He can fix a problem.... SergeStorms Mar 2022 #29
that's the problem with "Look forward, not back" Grasswire2 Mar 2022 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #41
This article was published before 1/6 happened mn9driver Mar 2022 #52
We need to hear from Biden on this. ananda Mar 2022 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #42
The ONLY way we'll get justice is ecstatic Mar 2022 #14
Obviously. What say you, Merrick? dchill Mar 2022 #15
There was one other rep who said the same. She was sitting to the left of Shiff. Wearing a blue onecaliberal Mar 2022 #16
K&R UTUSN Mar 2022 #17
The select committee is pushing DOJ. gab13by13 Mar 2022 #19
K & R as the wheels of justice inextricably turn on and on L. Coyote Mar 2022 #20
glad i wasn't the only one who kept thinking orleans Mar 2022 #21
This 10,000 % msfiddlestix Mar 2022 #22
If Garland plays his cards right, it'll all go away in a few months. Orrex Mar 2022 #26
that's how it's looking. msfiddlestix Mar 2022 #28
Perhaps someone can scold Schiff for his "outrage" and his lack of faith in "the system" Orrex Mar 2022 #24
you are not alone... Grasswire2 Mar 2022 #27
+ 1 Chautauquas Mar 2022 #36
Or scold Jill Wine Banks, one of the Watergate prosecutors who said if there was anything Jetheels Mar 2022 #55
One assumes they could have a meeting with the DOJ, yes? maxsolomon Mar 2022 #30
Accountability matters. moondust Mar 2022 #32
Based on history... Kablooie Mar 2022 #34
Is Garland going to do the Alvin Bragg thing? jalan48 Mar 2022 #38
arggghhh Grasswire2 Mar 2022 #46
Reminds me of all the times Mr. Evil Mar 2022 #39
I have seen and known RickHworth Mar 2022 #43
DOJ wants to hire 131 more lawyers to help with Jan. 6 prosecutions summer_in_TX Mar 2022 #44
...K&R... spanone Mar 2022 #45
When an insider like Frank Figliuzzi says he has seen no evidence of a DOJ investigation Lonestarblue Mar 2022 #51
Hate to say it but we are consumed by sedition Marthe48 Mar 2022 #53
In all fairness to Garland, has anyone checked to see if he's still breathing? Efilroft Sul Mar 2022 #54
What will come of this "miscommunication"? jaxexpat Mar 2022 #57

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
31. I was going to say the same thing........
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:00 PM
Mar 2022

but alot of people beat me to it.......Mueller turned out to be a big fat Nothing-Burger, and I am beginning this will be the same thing.
Along with the DA in Manhattan..............

I guess the biggest disappointment is we are hearing not a lot out of the Dems, in spite of the fact that they have a ton of ammunition to lob at the Republicans. How can we get them to stand up and get going????? Seriously??????

If the totally corrupt Repubs take the House and Senate, (probably by hook & by crook), it is over folks....game over.....
forever more people...........

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
4. Garland should have never left his last job on the bench
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 08:38 PM
Mar 2022

He could have frittered his whole life away there without endangering the constitution.

allegorical oracle

(2,357 posts)
56. Have gotten so disappointed with Garland that I've begun to wonder if he was one of those judges who
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 06:08 PM
Mar 2022

let their clerks do all the work and rely on their clerks' decisions. Perhaps he didn't belong on the SCOTUS. Can't believe it takes so long for a DOJ to make decisions. Don't mistake my doubts -- no AG should be a president's puppet (like Barr). But it surely seems to be taking Garland too much time to make his cases.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
5. This is over if we lose mid-terms. Accountability, Rule of Law and Democracy will die. And the
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 08:48 PM
Mar 2022

Death Eaters know it.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
8. Sadly, with Biden have only a 40% approval
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 08:57 PM
Mar 2022

and 63% disapproving of the economy it's very very likely we lose.

Response to Marius25 (Reply #8)

Wavelight

(391 posts)
47. Yes, the polls do look bad
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 11:42 PM
Mar 2022

And I agree with you, the midterms will likely be very ugly unless sentiment turns.

 

Marius25

(3,213 posts)
7. Biden needs to fire Garland and put someone good in the AG position
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 08:56 PM
Mar 2022

like Schiff, Bharara, Yates, Kirschner.

Scrivener7

(50,949 posts)
9. Glad they are pushing. Can you imagine how frustrated they are?
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 08:58 PM
Mar 2022

They're taking no end of heat, while doing their jobs, and then nothing comes of it.

Grasswire2

(13,566 posts)
12. A thousand recs.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:09 PM
Mar 2022

And I gotta post this again.

The American people deserve clarification from POTUS regarding his philosophy of accountability for GOP crimes, because there is this from November 2020 that has not been re-visited.

"Knowing what we know now about the coup attempt and the seditious conspiracies by Republicans, is this still your philosophy of accountability, Mr. President?"

That is the question that needs asking.

[link:https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/president-elect-biden-wary-trump-focused-investigations-sources-say-n1247959?msclkid=49c9de3aa7bc11ec88a919028c198773|

By Carol E. Lee, Kristen Welker and Mike Memoli
WASHINGTON — President-elect Joe Biden has privately told advisers that he doesn't want his presidency to be consumed by investigations of his predecessor, according to five people familiar with the discussions, despite pressure from some Democrats who want inquiries into President Donald Trump, his policies and members of his administration.

Biden has raised concerns that investigations would further divide a country he is trying to unite and risk making every day of his presidency about Trump, said the sources, who spoke on background to offer details of private conversations.

They said he has specifically told advisers that he is wary of federal tax investigations of Trump or of challenging any orders Trump may issue granting immunity to members of his staff before he leaves office. One adviser said Biden has made it clear that he "just wants to move on."

Another Biden adviser said, "He's going to be more oriented toward fixing the problems and moving forward than prosecuting them."

Earth-shine

(3,993 posts)
23. "doesn't want his presidency to be consumed by investigations of his predecessor"
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:47 PM
Mar 2022

I think Garland was hired to do this job - go forward, not back.

I think Trump and other high-level officials will never be prosecuted.

Grasswire2

(13,566 posts)
25. it's a gut punch to think that
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:50 PM
Mar 2022

But someone either needs to directly ask POTUS if his thinking has changed now, or.....

....we need to be SHOWN that it has changed. Soon. VERY SOON.

There's a great unease in the land about this.

Earth-shine

(3,993 posts)
33. It's the Democratic way. Obama did it, too.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:06 PM
Mar 2022

Obama, Biden, and Garland are all institutionalists. Their highest concern is the perpetuation of the system under which we all live.

It's more important to them than actual justice.

Bringing Trump to trial could be very dangerous for our republic, given the followers that he has. Imagine Jan 6, but with guns.

druidity33

(6,446 posts)
50. "privately told his advisors"...
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 03:36 PM
Mar 2022

This isn't on record and i'm pretty sure he'd deny having said it. So how can we ask the question about his purported thinking if it comes from anonymous sources?



SergeStorms

(19,193 posts)
29. He can fix a problem....
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:54 PM
Mar 2022

but in the meantime the GQP and greedy fossil fuel companies are creating two more to replace it.

Biden is barely keeping his head above water with this present strategy. Time is running out. We're about to lose our democracy to a bunch of christo-fascist moonbats who want to turn the United States into Russia West.

And all the Biden administration wants to do is be fair to the people who want to destroy it.

Grasswire2

(13,566 posts)
35. that's the problem with "Look forward, not back"
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:09 PM
Mar 2022

Eventually the price must be paid, as the seditionists and power-hungry become increasingly crazed by the inevitable loss of power they will suffer as inevitable demographic shift happens.

Biden is trying to keep the plates spinning, bless him.

And it's not all his fault. Dems have been glossing over GOP crimes for decades now. Decades.

Bless him, he wanted to fix Covid and the economy before the s**t hit the fan.

It's a high wire act.

And scary as hell for all of us.

Response to Grasswire2 (Reply #12)

mn9driver

(4,423 posts)
52. This article was published before 1/6 happened
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 05:28 PM
Mar 2022

And before the Big Lie really started to gain traction.

I’m betting that Biden does not feel this way now. Trump and his gang have become existential threats to our democracy. Biden knows it.

Response to ananda (Reply #13)

ecstatic

(32,681 posts)
14. The ONLY way we'll get justice is
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:15 PM
Mar 2022

if Biden fires Garland and nominates a woman to replace him. A woman will hold tfg accountable. JMO.

gab13by13

(21,304 posts)
19. The select committee is pushing DOJ.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:19 PM
Mar 2022

I believe it was last December when Liz Cheney laid out the statute that Trump was guilty of, the same statute that the judge agreed with.

msfiddlestix

(7,278 posts)
22. This 10,000 %
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:45 PM
Mar 2022

I simply cannot recommend this highly enough.

I posted earlier when learning of the "news" of new hires only now getting hired to deal with investigations.

I was floored to see that posted as something only now underway.

unbelievable.

msfiddlestix

(7,278 posts)
28. that's how it's looking.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:54 PM
Mar 2022

seems like he sure knows how to manage how to run out the clock. Like it's just count down for him

if he hates his job so much why stay?

Orrex

(63,201 posts)
24. Perhaps someone can scold Schiff for his "outrage" and his lack of faith in "the system"
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:50 PM
Mar 2022

That's usually what I get when I comment on the stationary workings of the DoJ.

 

Jetheels

(991 posts)
55. Or scold Jill Wine Banks, one of the Watergate prosecutors who said if there was anything
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 06:03 PM
Mar 2022

in the works we would have seen so by this point in time.

Seems like the only person definitely going after trump is NY AG Letitia James.




maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
30. One assumes they could have a meeting with the DOJ, yes?
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:59 PM
Mar 2022

One assumes they have. They must not like what they heard.

Kablooie

(18,625 posts)
34. Based on history...
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:08 PM
Mar 2022

I don’t expect any consequences for any of those referrals.

So far Michael Cohen is the only person connected to Trump who has been given a serious sentence.
And he’s a Democrat.

No. I see no evidence that there will be any consequences for Trump or any of his close associates.

I do not believe I will be proven wrong.

Mr. Evil

(2,839 posts)
39. Reminds me of all the times
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:42 PM
Mar 2022

politicians (usually loudmouth, misogynistic, alpha-male douchebag republicans) make campaign blatherings of being 'tough on crime.' Sure they are. Just not when they commit them.

We cannot nor will we ever have a civilized society without accountability. Hundreds, maybe thousands of people, from the very top on down conspiring to overthrow our government. Multitudes of criminal activity. Mountains of evidence. Hell, the perpetual projection machine of the republicans tells us daily what they are guilty of.

If moving forward is such a wonderful warm and fuzzy panacea then why do we prosecute any crimes at all? Those all involve going back also to methodically gather evidence, put the pieces of the criminal puzzle together all the way up to the present day to put the perpetrators of a crime (or crimes) in fucking prison. That's how you move forward!

summer_in_TX

(2,732 posts)
44. DOJ wants to hire 131 more lawyers to help with Jan. 6 prosecutions
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 11:00 PM
Mar 2022
The Department of Justice wants to hire 131 more lawyers to help prosecute cases related to the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Driving the news: The DOJ is seeking $34.1 million for the effort, according to President Biden's budget request for next year, which was released Monday.

What they're saying: Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco said on Monday that the Jan. 6 investigation is "among the most wide-ranging and most complex that this department has ever undertaken."

She added: "Regardless of whatever resources we seek or get, let's be very, very clear: We are going to continue to do those cases. We are going to hold those perpetrators accountable, no matter where the facts lead us, [and] as the attorney general has said, no matter at what level. We will do those cases."


[…snip…]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/doj-wants-hire-131-more-210343384.html

Lonestarblue

(9,971 posts)
51. When an insider like Frank Figliuzzi says he has seen no evidence of a DOJ investigation
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 05:10 PM
Mar 2022

of Trump and the key planners of J6, you have to wonder whether indeed there is any investigation going on. Yesterday on Nicole Wallace’s show Figliuzzi said that he knew nothing of any investigation. He also said that the DOJ should have been doing a full investigation separate from, and indeed ahead of, the J6 Committee. As I recall, during Mueller’s investigation, we knew when Grand Juries were seated. If the DOJ has seated a Grand Jury, it’s the biggest secret in DC.

Marthe48

(16,935 posts)
53. Hate to say it but we are consumed by sedition
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 05:37 PM
Mar 2022

I still see traitor signs and flags hanging. If I don't have my grandkids in the car, I flip them off, hand in the window, because I hope the traitors flying that garbage see me.

I realized today that any news about traitor getting his ass handed to him is like Christmas that never comes. I am not concerned with the traitors who support sedition, subversion and overthrow of the U.S.A. They can go to Hell and the sooner the better. I am concerned about loyal Americans who are defending our country by wearing ourselves out supporting Democratic candidates, sending our disposable income to campaigns, hoping that our last dollar or two will be that last little bit a Democratic candidate needs to defeat a slimeball that no one vetted, at least in an upright sort of way, that if possible is worse than the traitorous scum already defacting in the halls of our Capitol, our Supreme Court, and in various branches of government and public service.

Is AG Garland overwhelmed by the extent of the roots and branches of the poison tree and how far it has penetrated into the garden of our Democracy? Is he trying to spread a net that will reap a harvest of all the rotten fruit? I don't know what he is doing, but I wish we could know. I wish I knew that my country was actively defended by these people into which we are putting and faith and trust.

I applaud the Jan. 6th Congressional Committee. To me, an average citizen with mind made up, the evidence they've collected is like a bloody hand on the perpetrator pointing right back at him.

The country is already torn apart by criminals and traitors. We need the legally elected government and legally appointed officials to do their jobs, and come down hard on the criminals and traitors so we can start healing.

The gd kid gloves need to come off.

jaxexpat

(6,818 posts)
57. What will come of this "miscommunication"?
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 06:34 PM
Mar 2022

Will there be another enforcement entity introduced into the world of federal LEO's? Will the "Capitol Police" get a major upgrade. Will J R Hoover's outfit end up subservient to them, too?

Just stay tuned as the slowest show on Earth unwraps this gift that keeps on giving.

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