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babylonsister

(171,045 posts)
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:25 PM Mar 2022

Billionaires Are Already Going Nuts Over Biden's Wealth Tax

Billionaires Are Already Going Nuts Over Biden’s Wealth Tax
‘DEAD ON ARRIVAL’
The ultra-rich aren’t happy about the administration’s new minimum income tax idea that would tax the gains on some investments even before they’re sold.
Noah Kirsch
Wealth and Power Reporter
Published Mar. 28, 2022 8:29PM ET

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The Biden administration was set to unveil the proposal on Monday as part of its budget plan for 2023. It would affect a small percentage of the population—households worth $100 million or more—who would face a minimum annual tax rate of 20 percent of their income, including the appreciation of certain investments.

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Some billionaires aren’t happy to be caught in the crosshairs. “I think it's stupid to punish the people that create the jobs and make the money,” said the grocery billionaire John Catsimatidis. “I create jobs. I don't make most of my money in hedge funds. I don't make most of my money in the stock market. I’m different.”

“It’s going to lead to very unnatural actions in the economy,” added Cooperman, who said he supports a progressive tax system but favors doing so by closing other loopholes instead.


According to a chart shared on Twitter by the economist Gabriel Zucman, Biden’s proposal could theoretically create a $50 billion tax bill for Elon Musk, the largest of anyone in the country, followed by a $35 billion obligation for Jeff Bezos. In total, the chart estimated, the top ten billionaires would owe $215 billion between them.

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Billionaires Are Already Going Nuts Over Biden's Wealth Tax (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2022 OP
Sadly, the chances of passage are slim to none peppertree Mar 2022 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #8
I do hope you're right peppertree Mar 2022 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #19
With those two, you've got to keep fingers AND toes crossed peppertree Mar 2022 #20
And they have more money than they, or their heirs, could ever spend in a live time, Biophilic Mar 2022 #2
Always phrased as punishment lame54 Mar 2022 #21
It seems that billionaires are rarely happy unless GoodRaisin Mar 2022 #3
This is how to get inflation under control HariSeldon Mar 2022 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #9
the chart estimated, the top 10 billionaires would owe $215 billion between them. GOOD, LET THEM PAY Trueblue1968 Mar 2022 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #10
Billionaires do not create jobs. Mr.Bill Mar 2022 #6
That's absolutely right! Trailrider1951 Mar 2022 #14
The super wealthy have escaped taxes for DECADES. It's time they paid their fair share. flying_wahini Mar 2022 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Mar 2022 #11
Take their complaints and get in line multigraincracker Mar 2022 #12
... Faux pas Mar 2022 #13
Joe keeps saying just that: "Just pay your fair share." Hekate Mar 2022 #16
I Faux pas Mar 2022 #23
I listened to his Budget speech & the reporters would only talk about Putin's putative reaction to... Hekate Mar 2022 #15
suck it up and pay up! billionaires are a drain on society: take-take-take nt orleans Mar 2022 #17
Freedom isn't free. When ever you hear "we over there protecting Americas intrest" Hotler Mar 2022 #22
Kick ck4829 Mar 2022 #24
Good. Let 'em whine. bif Mar 2022 #25

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Biophilic

(3,641 posts)
2. And they have more money than they, or their heirs, could ever spend in a live time,
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:31 PM
Mar 2022

but they still want more. They also don't want to help support the country that gave them the opportunity, and the infrastructure necessary, to make all that money. They are the ultimate "takers."

GoodRaisin

(8,920 posts)
3. It seems that billionaires are rarely happy unless
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:31 PM
Mar 2022

they are laying back enjoying their possessions.

Their inability to be happy may be the root of their problem.

HariSeldon

(455 posts)
4. This is how to get inflation under control
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:31 PM
Mar 2022

Inflation is when the productivity of the nation is spread between too many dollars. When the federal government raises taxes, the dollars go away. If those taxes hit middle- or working-class people -- and more especially, if they hit the poor -- they reduce economic activity and thus economic demand. The rich are not nearly as productive as they think they are, and reduction of their income is unlikely to significantly change their behavior...they just have too much money to care.

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Trueblue1968

(17,202 posts)
5. the chart estimated, the top 10 billionaires would owe $215 billion between them. GOOD, LET THEM PAY
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:40 PM
Mar 2022

they have the MONEY, Make them pay. - -- HOW ABOUT THE RICH PAY WHAT THEY PAID DURING EISENHOWER'S PRESIDENCY ???
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Bernie Sanders stated on November 14, 2015 in a Democratic presidential debate in Des Moines, Iowa: Says income tax rates under Eisenhower were as high as 90 percent.


~~~~~> Sanders said income tax rates under Eisenhower were as high as 90 percent.

A look through the records shows that top earners in the eight years of Eisenhower’s presidency paid a top income tax rate of 91 percent. It was even a bit higher before he took office.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2015/nov/15/bernie-sanders/income-tax-rates-were-90-percent-under-eisenhower-/

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flying_wahini

(6,583 posts)
7. The super wealthy have escaped taxes for DECADES. It's time they paid their fair share.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:46 PM
Mar 2022


Their FAIR share. No whining allowed.

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multigraincracker

(32,656 posts)
12. Take their complaints and get in line
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:06 PM
Mar 2022

right behind those Russian Billionaires. Private islands, boats and off shore money, they've got em too.

Faux pas

(14,657 posts)
23. I
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 10:58 AM
Mar 2022

know, that's why I can't understand why they don't just call it that. Make it easier for people to understand.

Hekate

(90,616 posts)
15. I listened to his Budget speech & the reporters would only talk about Putin's putative reaction to...
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:26 PM
Mar 2022

…Joe saying he had to be gone.

The Budget speech was very good actually. I was quite interested in the fact that Joe is negotiating with other world leaders to close the gaps whereby billionaires and corporations can go offshore to escape taxes. Apparently the US is not the only country with that loophole.

Considering Biden’s success with bringing NATO back together, he may just be the right man for this job.


Hotler

(11,409 posts)
22. Freedom isn't free. When ever you hear "we over there protecting Americas intrest"
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 09:06 AM
Mar 2022

Those interest are usually the money interest. Protecting corporate and Wall St. interest.

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