WTF is wrong with people?? The best numbers for jobs, infrastructure passed, deficit falling,

[Samrob]

help for Ukraine. What the hell is going on. People concerned about our border, crime, inflation WTF. We just came through two tough years of a Pandemic and now people are focused on vaxx mandates, mask mandates...huh??? We are in deep doo doo if the Dems can't get out there and speak about Biden's achievements the way the GOP was out there rallying around Trump's lies and disinformation.

If all the GOP has is their racism and anti-LBGQT agenda and border issues with Mexico platform of fake CRT and other cultural wars, I I pray that all the people who are the object of their cultural war agenda get the hell out and vote in numbers heretofore unseen.

[dchill]

1. Haven't you seen the news? GAS PRICES ARE UP!

[uponit7771]

10. TFG had worse UE rate than Great Depression DIRECTLY connected to the way he ...

... responded to the virus and his polling numbers were same as Bidens.

There is NO DOUBT a negative Biden bias especially witnessed with a more than 2 minute story about Biden expressing Putrid has to go.

What sane person in the world thinks Putrid needs to stay in power but the M$M highlights that as if he did something wrong.

[DallasNE]

15. Given The Obstacles Biden Has Faced

He has done an absolute masterful job of navigating the issues. He has been the most outstanding President in my lifetime, which goes back to FDR. He could well win the Nobel Peace Prize for 2022.

[uponit7771]

18. +1, I'm looking at polling and even FOX news has some relative good news for dems ...

... but there is NO DOUBT a stupid level of collapse on Biden for somethings that are bad on its face and none of his doing.

How are people blaming Biden most for gas prices !?!?!

WTF ?!

Some is wrong with some message zone that is being pushed

[RainCaster]

16. UE- Urinary Excretion?

Asking for a friend.

[uponit7771]

19. un employment rate

[Stinky The Clown]

2. A toxic media propelling every bullshit fucking right wing meme, trope, and lie

[betsuni]

3. +1

[uponit7771]

20. +1, looking at multple polling and that's the only thing I can point to. I don't see how in the hell

... Biden is blamed for high gas prices !!

WTF does the president have to do with gas prices other than MAGA media blaming Biden for XL pipeline stupidity ... WTF ?!

Looks like when Biden said something about gas prices the numbers blaming him started falling but damn ... all MAGA Media has to do is throw out a damn lie and the rest of the M$M repeats it.

[Initech]

32. Because the right wing controls 1500 radio stations and 3 24 hour a day news networks?

What have we got that can compete against that?

[elias7]

5. And every major press out is excoriating Biden over saying Putin had to go.

Sheesh! No wonder peoples opinions don’t change about Biden, whose speech was awesome but largely ignored.

Kind of like the Oscars. The press ignored the entire slew of awards and all they think we want to hear is about the slap.

[Metaphorical]

6. This is the power of the echo chamber

Biden is making enemies, and those enemies have pretty much a stranglehold on the press (at least that which is TV based). Those enemies (the extremely wealthy, the fossil fuels lobby, the insurance lobby, the banking sector, etc.) see Biden as an existential threat, and they are doing everything in their power to tear him down. I remember when Carter was in office, and he had precisely the same problem. Add to this the fact that Biden, while a spectacular president, just does not have the same charisma than either Clinton or Obama had, and it's not surprising to see us where we are right now.

[qazplm135]

7. Inflation

it's the economy, and when people see tangible things like gas and food prices, rents and whatnot go up, they blame the government, and that means they blame the folks in charge.

Most people don't care about the other stuff...that only generates base turnout...the small fickle clump that decides a lot of our elections are the ones that vote how they feel on election day, and unless there is a minor economic miracle, they aren't going to feel great.

Of course, the counter to that is in 2024, the Republicans will have run the House and possibly the Senate, and gotten zero done or proposed or fixed, so the pendulum swings back towards us, particularly if Trump runs again.

None of this is surprising.

[uponit7771]

11. TFG DIRECTLY killed 300,000 Americans but his numbers were this low with ***NO*** collapse

... of its position.

There's SOMETHING wrong in the polling right now .. .something is wrong.

Biden's economy has no organic inflation seeing MOST price increases involve naked greed because profit reports are sky high.

[qazplm135]

13. nope

nothing wrong, you just assume people pay closer attention to details than they do.

They see inflation, they blame the party in power, doesn't matter if it's "organic" or caused by external forces, because most people aren't paying attention to that and when someone tries to explain they just view it as an excuse.

They can't stop corporations, they can vote out the party in power.

We've ping ponged back and forth almost like clockwork for the vast majority of my lifetime and longer than that really, except for a period of time when Dems held the House for a significant period of time, but that's looking more like an anomaly now. The pattern is one party wins the white house and one or both houses of congress, then the other party wins one or both houses of congress, then usually, the president wins re-election and maybe one of the houses of congress, then loses both houses again, then the party out of power wins the white house and one or both houses of congress and the pattern repeats.

It's not perfect of course...Bush was a one term President along with Trump but the former had a recession and he had already broken the pattern as a third term of Reagan so the country was VERY ready to switch back to the other party again, and the latter was, well, Trump (and also had a mini recession with COVID).

But it's a fairly consistent pattern, and I propose it's mostly because there's a core group of voters who just vote the party in power out of power on a routine basis while those who identify with each party more or less split the vote.

It's not always this way every single time, but I propose to you it happens fairly often, and I suspect we see it happen again in 2022, because their side is motivated, and even if our side is as well, it cancels out and you are left with the folks who will vote out the party in power because that's what they usually do.

Inflation will give them ample reason to and they aren't going to care that it's not "organic."

[uponit7771]

14. Polling shows Biden's numbers are down in CoC in dem areas NOT because GZP voters don't like

... him as much.

Blaming Biden for inflation is like blaming him for global warming

The ONLY poll that I've see separate voters along party lines don't have Biden down for inflation FOR DEMS ... where the polling is falling ... its voting rights, policing and immigration.

[qazplm135]

33. "Dem areas"

Doesn't mean it's 100 percent Dems there. Republicans, independents and moderates live in "Dem areas" too.

[uponit7771]

34. Mostly dem areas and learned here recently its' not just CoC its mostly independents. There is some

... good news on Nov front from two MAGA Media polls showing dems are still within MOE for generic ballot and intent to vote is only a point or two away.

That's good news, no one wants to vote for MAGA ... we need to stoke our votes for Nov ... we win

[qazplm135]

36. Being down

In generic polling is rare and never a great sign.

We need more than just enthusiasm, we need some policy events like student loan reduction and other things.

Bold action is the only hope right now.

[uponit7771]

37. Right, we're even in generic even though Biden's numbers are in 40s and RTWT is in the 70s ...

... that's decent news

Not great but decent

We need more than just enthusiasm, we need some policy events like student loan reduction and other things.

ABSOLUTELY !!! That's the BIGGEST area dems / independents are down is the 18-29 gap!!

[unblock]

8. Anyone who think our media is remotely objective and unbiased needs to wake the f up

The media is heavily dominated by right-wing people talking about right-wing topics using right-wing arguments, right-wing catchphrases, and right-wing logic.

Left-wing viewpoints are highly limited to material that either plays into the right-wing narrative or serves as foil for right-wing attacks.

For example, they'll have a Republican on attacking women or a minority group, and have allow a member of the attacked group on to defend themselves. Now, of course it's only fair to have them on to defend themselves and their attacked group, but the *entire setup* of right-wingers attacking those groups and members of those attacked groups objecting to it only perpetuates the right-wing frame that divides people into such groups and those attacked groups at a disadvantage.

Or they'll let an aoc or a Bernie on so they can then attack them as socialist extremists.


They won't let us have a debate about police reform or *how* to get fewer innocent people shot during routine traffic stops because they will only show a "debate" about how blacks people can and cannot legitimately protest.

Never a debate about the thing they're actually protesting about.

Foxnews and hate radio are obvious about it, of course, but nearly all the rest of the media sucks too. The best media is still merely good defense against right-wing attacks, which is very different from a media that would actually advance progressive interests.

[abqtommy]

22. +100 Well said. nt

[uponit7771]

35. +1, lets see if the M$M gives TFG recent treason as much time as they gave Biden's non gaffe ...

... emoting what all decent humans world wide think.

[elleng]

9. Dems lousy @ messaging.

[uponit7771]

12. +1, the places Biden's numbers are falling are CoC where dems aren't doing what Stacey Abrahams

... did in Georgia.

It's that simple

We're still stuck on spending twice the resource for half a vote of mostly white middle of the road vote vs spending half that much for 2 votes in CoC's

[betsuni]

23. But why is that Democrats' fault?

[elleng]

24. LOGIC. Want support of someone(s?) Present positions persuasively,

INCLUDING accomplishments. Who ELSE will do it?

[betsuni]

25. Logic, facts, presenting policies and accomplishments doesn't work.

Works with the Democratic base, not anybody else. The real Democratic base, not the fantasy one, not the fantasy alliance between left-wing and right-wing populists and libertarians who aren't Democrats and people who threaten to not vote for Democrats because Daddy broke a promise that he didn't make, someone else did and they're too stupid to know which Daddy made the promise.

[BaronChocula]

17. Just keep reminding everyone

we're much much much better than we were in the first Reagan years.

[Norbert]

21. Two of the GQP candidates for senate in Ohio are going big on closing borders/finishing 'the wall'

Of course President Biden and the liberals are the cause of the opioid use they saying is exploding.

[JHB]

26. Because we have three types of major media in this country...

1) Conservative/Right Wing (but I'm being redundant): 24/7 attack dogs blanketing the entire country through multiple media types that overlap and reinforce each other.

2) Mainstream/Corporate media: Where the guys who sign the checks and contracts think the Cult Of Savviness and Both Sides are doing swell jobs and keep putting them front and center. Have to be hard on Democrats if they're going to be "hard" on Republicans.

3) Genuinely liberal partisan media outlets that can blanket the country 24/7.... oh, wait, that doesn't exist.


Number 1 has plenty of sugar daddies willing to fund places to put out propaganda, Number 2 has advertisers and insulated executives, and Number 3 has to beg for loose change with an empty coffee cup.

[betsuni]

29. And pretend "progressive" media constantly bashing Democrats as corrupt "corporate Dems"

because of imaginary corruption from campaign contributions.

[dwayneb]

27. Never underestimate the power of right-wing propaganda

Fascists have been using it for a hundred years, And it works.

Just because we have truth on our side does not mean we will win. It's not a question of what we know, or what we observe - unless we can translate that knowledge into action, we are doomed. We have to be able to use the same or better weapons than our enemy, and so far it looks like we are no able to do that.

Personally I think we've already lost this war, along with our democracy and our freedom. I'd like to be more optimistic but there is a good chance that 2020 was the last free election we will see in the USA. Fascists are destined to take control of Congress in 2022, they will effectively shut down the Jan 6 investigations. They will pave the way for the next coup attempt in 2024, if that is required for them to seize power once and for all.

[Cosmocat]

28. I have had heartburn since my young adult years in the early 90s

cause I saw all of this coming. It took a long time, but for over three decades I have seen the relentless push from the right incrementally eat away at all of the normative systems that held this country together and both the media and the country at large indulge what they were going EVERY FUCKING TIME.

Yes, it is over, and it isn't because of 45, he was a symptom, not the cause.

He gave the last big push, but they had already deteriorated our democracy to the point to allow a big, bad strong man to take over.

Even if he has a stroke or dies or something, there are PLENTY of immoral POS in their ranks who will find a way to finish the job.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

30. Because even with all those strong markers, people are still struggling. Housing prices, wages,

child care availability and costs, higher ed costs, and of course health care access and costs are crushing people. About 40 percent of us would have trouble covering a $400 emergency. According to one estimate, more than half of us are one paycheck away from homelessness. Lots of numbers look great, but many, many people are still living precariously -- and they know it.

[rownesheck]

31. Most of the people in this country

blow me away with their stupidity and gullibility. They'll pay more attention to fucking "I Can Hear You Dance" or whatever the fuck stupid ass bullshit TV game show is on, than actually using their fucking brains to pay attention to what's real.

This country is a fucking embarrassment.