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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat is really protecting Trump
Is he slinging money around? System just slow? Very good at being a thug and covering tracks?
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)Runningdawg
(4,516 posts)cilla4progress
(24,726 posts)Status quo.
FeelingBlue
(677 posts)As if hes protected. It feels like we are in a slow tangle that the lawyers are working to untwist and to understand.
Boydog
(718 posts)There is no more executive privilege.
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RKP5637
(67,104 posts)it all disappears.
PatSeg
(47,399 posts)that his crimes were so obvious and apparently well known in New York for many years.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)is going on, or at minimal it certainly seems that way.
PatSeg
(47,399 posts)Something or someone has been protecting Trump for many years. Money, bribes, blackmail, or threats - once again Trump sounds like a mob boss.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)PatSeg
(47,399 posts)I always allow for the possibility. Right now, I don't see Putin being a big influence in 2024, but another powerful backer(s) might take on the mantle. That said, I'm really not sure that Trump is of any value to anyone anymore. I suppose we should watch out for another candidate with dubious foreign and domestic backing.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)might happen. So many seem so clueless, others certifiably deranged ... and others on the take for power and money.
PatSeg
(47,399 posts)than I could ever have anticipated. Trump may go away, but these terrifyingly uninformed people are still with us and it's not like they've gotten a "clue" yet.
Cracklin Charlie
(12,904 posts)Or uses what he knows to get himself out of trouble.
Hes slime.
FarPoint
(12,336 posts)Both Parties have been neglectful, especially the Democrats and the GOP has been addicted to money....profiting from their political position opportunities....So, to expose all of tRump is just plain shameful for all...being exposed....gross neglect of duty over the past 20 years at least.
The Democrats just sat on the sidelines, not wanting to make waves and possibly screw up a re-election...They chose poorly and we suffer now....
Tree Lady
(11,451 posts)Are afraid when republicans have power they will come after our presidents even with no wrongdoing. They seem to have no problem accusing democrats of all kinds of things.
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)Boydog
(718 posts)defending democracy. Sometimes we are way too timid as Democrats.
jalan48
(13,859 posts)Who knows what info he has on any politician in the government or any bit of embarrassing info a politician would rather not have the public see.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)From the mafia. Hes a legacy mafioso who inherited his ties from his daddy. With plenty of money to splash around he can compromise his enemies and still make a 9:30 tee time.
haele
(12,647 posts)I'm not saying "all wealthy real estate and investment players in New York" do what he did, but a significant number of political players and mobsters/mobster adjacent real estate and investment types have done the same, and they're using their political pull to try and make any investigation into that sort of fraud go away, lest the law go after them, next.
It's just New York politics.
Haele
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)just becomes window dressing for the masses.
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)Perhaps there is reluctance to "undermine" the presidency and the body politic by putting a potus criminal in prison?
RKP5637
(67,104 posts)Aristus
(66,316 posts)and charging him with crimes. A lot of people are no doubt hesitating to take action for that reason alone. It could open the floodgates for every partisan hack with an axe to grind to bring a President or former President up on charges. They don't have to stick; they just have to gum up the works of government just enough so that everything comes to a grinding halt. That's what anti-government right-wingers want more than anything else in the world.
Peregrine Took
(7,413 posts)and go scott free and golf for the rest of his life.
How about being banished to Elba or?
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Peregrine Took
(7,413 posts)He would be my choice.
Boydog
(718 posts)Whiskeytide
(4,461 posts)
was not prepared to handle a corrupt idiot like Тяцмp. Much of what we have, for 200 years, expected from a president was not actually codified into criminal law. We never had to do that because such conduct was considered unthinkable in the US. As a consequence, his bullshit is often not - technically - illegal. Its like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
Also, he actually is pretty good at walking right up to the line, but not quite crossing it. Everyone has a talent, even corrupt idiots. Thats his. Hes always lived that philosophy of life - get away with everything you can and then lie and dodge consequences. He pretty good at that.
And, one major political party covers for him because they need his base to get elected in their own elections. The fact that they created the monster is almost irrelevant because no matter what, they still have to live with him.
And, I think our side still fears the political fallout of prosecuting him or heaping consequences upon him. 70m people still voted for him in the last election - even after what he demonstrated over 4 years of chaos and insanity in the WH. Thats a lot of Americans to piss off when your side also depends on getting votes to stay in power.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)Im not disparaging Democrats. Im asking a question. Merrick Garland has done nothing. I was just listening to a news snippet that said its been 105 days since the J6 committee referred the Mark Meadows subpoena issue to the DOJ. Why is the DOJ doing nothing? And dont tell me I dont know that they arent doing anything unless you can prove they are!