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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat has happened to the case against Matt Gaetz
None of these creeps are ever held accountable. I thought Gaetzs buddy was all ready to nail him.
getagrip_already
(14,618 posts)His lawyers have asked for multiple extensions to allow his cooperation to be available before he is sentenced.
The prosecutors and the judge have agreed with each extension.
So it seems something is still in the works.
MineralMan
(146,254 posts)So, I can't answer your question. From what I can tell, it's still being investigated and witnesses are still being questioned.
I'm sure it will make the news when something new happens. Be sure and let us know, OK?
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/matt-gaetz-unlikely-charged-sex-trafficking-1234598611/
Matt Gaetz Unlikely to Be Charged in Sex-Trafficking Probe: Report
Prosecutors have recommended against bringing charges against the Florida congressman for his alleged relationship with a 17-year-old girl, according to The Washington Post
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Specifically for what?
And you really do need to be specific.
People casually throw things around like "He had sex with a 17 year old." Well, that would be legal in DC. The allegation then jumps to a hypothetical Mann Act violation if (someone) had specifically arranged for the 17 year old to travel to DC for the purpose of having sex with Matt Gaetz. The difficulty there is that you have to provide that was the specific reason for the travel, which is not as easily proved as someone might think,
Then there is the "He hired prostitutes." The problem with that is that it didn't appear, even from the previous reports, that Gaetz did that. First thing is that hiring people to show up at parties is not illegal. So, if you are paying people to come to parties, and they end up having sex with the other guests, then you need to show that they were specifically paid to have sex, and not that they were paid to show up at the party, and sex occurred. Likewise, if you are going to say that Gaetz hired prostitutes, then you'd need to show Gaetz hiring prostitutes, instead of giving his friend some money to arrange a party, and then his friend goes out and hires prostitutes.
Aside from which, if that was happening in Florida, then it's simply not a federal crime to hire prostitutes (as distinct from transport across state lines), and so the FBI would not particularly care whether Gaetz was hiring prostitutes in Florida.
So, be specific, for what do you want Gaetz to be "held accountable" and by whom?
It is common for people to throw up a bunch of hypothetical crimes when you have a carnival of lurid behavior such as engaged in by Gaetz and his friend. But you also need to drill down on the details of what, specifically, were the arrangements in order to come up with someone committing a crime. The friend was a walking catalog of criminal behavior, but that also made it easy to ensure that any act that was specifically criminal was limited to that friend.
TheRealNorth
(9,470 posts)They might have trouble nailing him.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)In all of these the witnesses were bought off / intimidated scenarios, it is surprising how few of them manage to capture evidence of that and/or report it to the investigators.
Works every time.
dem4decades
(11,269 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,548 posts)The prosecutor keeps asking the judge to postpone sentencing because Greenberg (I think thats his name) is cooperating so well, and they keep getting more and more info, likely justifying further reductions in his sentencing recommendation.
I think once Greenberg is sentenced, we will see movement on Gaetz.
2naSalit
(86,323 posts)It's high time to wrap it up.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,548 posts)I think Greenberg entered into a plea agreement late last year, and his sentencing has been extended because he keeps providing new information.
But, sure, lets forget about that, toss Greenbergs testimony, and try to convict Gaetz without any of that evidence.
Sneederbunk
(14,275 posts)brooklynite
(94,331 posts)Scrivener7
(50,911 posts)an expert" 8 ball.
The others include favorites like:
"Gad, Marsha! It's not a Law and Order episode!" (Accompanied by a flip of the hair.)
and
"He needs to dot all the i's and cross all the t's"
and
"The DOJ NEVER discusses its investigations!" (Which is patently untrue.)
and
"You don't know what's going on behind the scenes! There is a lot going on behind the scenes!" (Spoken by someone who has no idea what is going on behind the scenes.)
and
"He has investigated 700 people!" (Most of whom got sentences that encourage them to attempt a coup again and none of whom were organizers of the coup.)
and
"These things take years!" (As whole tranches of crimes committed by tfg pass their statutes of limitations.)
I could go on.
Bettie
(16,069 posts)but "You can't talk about it because you aren't an expert!" is both the most common one.
Or should I say continual.
There's also the scolding, as if we're all children who need someone to scream at us to shut up for daring to discuss current events.
Scrivener7
(50,911 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)kacekwl
(7,013 posts)extensions, delays, etc. If you're co-operating with the prosecution then do it. Damn delays and extensions are bullshit. Give it up or go to prison for a long time period.