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Nevilledog

(50,954 posts)
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 07:19 PM Mar 2022

Jada Pinkett Smith Shouldn't Have to 'Take a Joke.' Neither Should You.





https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/29/opinion/culture/will-smith-oscars-roxane-gay.html

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This is not a defense of Will Smith, who does not need me to defend him.

Instead, this is a defense of thin skin. It is a defense of boundaries and being human and enforcing one’s limits. It is a repudiation of the incessant valorizing of taking a joke, having a sense of humor. It is a rejection of the expectation that we laugh off everything people want to say and do to us.

I think a lot about how we are constantly asked to make our skin ever thicker. Toughen yourself, we’re told, whoever we are, whatever we’ve been through or are going through. Stop being so brittle and sensitive. Lighten up.

I’m not talking about constructive criticism or accountability but, rather, the intense scrutiny and unnecessary commentary people have to deal with when they challenge others’ expectations one way or another.

Who is served by all this thick skin? Those who want to behave with impunity. If the targets of derision only had thicker skin, their aggressors could say or do as they please. If we all had the thickest of skins, no one would have to take responsibility for cruelties, big or small. It’s an alluring idea to some, I suppose.

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exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
1. Nobody asked either of them to accept what Chris Rock said
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 07:23 PM
Mar 2022

They had the power of their feet and they have a bigger megaphone than Chris Rock. I do agree that Will Smith and his wife shouldn't have to sit through an insulting comedy routine to be a nominee for an award.

Instead Will Smith decided to disrupt the Oscars and physically assault and batter another SAG member.

dem4decades

(11,265 posts)
2. Let's make a case of assault about skin thickness. I'm tired of the excuses. Assault.
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 07:33 PM
Mar 2022

Take the rest to the trash. Gail King today wanted to talk about how the attack escalated. Jim Carrey was having none of it, he declared "What escalation, it was an attack".

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
3. Rock has 6 months to file a charge, I'm praying he does now because dumb assed people think
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 07:39 PM
Mar 2022

... assaulting someone is OK if you're "insulted" without threating words

 

steampunk

(80 posts)
4. My take is Jada Pinkett is a big girl and can take care of herself.
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 07:39 PM
Mar 2022

She's been a successful Hollywood actress a long time and endured all the traps of the profession (Harvey Weinstein). I think she's more than strong enough to handle a bad joke at an awards event.

As far as Will Smith. Who doesn't love his infectious smile and the great things he's done for the community. But we have to consider. Maybe, in real life, he's just an asshole.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
6. +1, both of them getting up and walking out until break would've been a boom louder and
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 07:43 PM
Mar 2022

... more effective than assault.

I lived in Texas people have NO IDEA who carries

Skittles

(153,103 posts)
8. thank you
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 07:48 PM
Mar 2022

this excusing of toxic masculinity is fucking nonsense, and I have long thought Will Smith to be an asshole

sop

(10,077 posts)
7. When did awards ceremonies turn into comedy roasts?
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 07:45 PM
Mar 2022

"It is a tradition that hosts and presenters at awards ceremonies use their platform to, at best, poke fun at those in the audience and, at worst, insult, disparage, impugn, denigrate and humiliate them in a way that often takes one’s breath away.

"It’s funny, but cruel, and by most common standards, it is nothing short of bullying. On stage, and with a microphone in hand, a person is in a position of insuperable authority. Possession, in this instance, is ten-tenths of the law. Their victims are, literally, sitting targets, who have to take it all in good part. If they don’t, they are marked out as bad sports.

"And so, those who Ricky Gervais insulted in his years of hosting the Golden Globes – that is, virtually everyone in Hollywood – and those who have been the butt of jokes at every awards evening from the Baftas to the Brits, and even at the annual White House Correspondents’ Dinner, have had to sit there and smile weakly in case the camera caught them visibly upset at the casually tossed jibe. Look at him! He can’t take a joke!"

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/will-smiths-oscars-slap-signal-end-of-comedy-roast-1544203

ripcord

(5,223 posts)
9. Being a comedian means never having to say I'm sorry for insulting people
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 07:54 PM
Mar 2022

If they can't do any better than mocking physical appearance are they really that funny? Maybe they can start doing physical comedy like the Three Stooges and finally they can devolve into running freak shows. Maybe Chris Rock can do his next comedy special from in front of a chemo clinic where there are plenty of bald people for him to make fun of.

dixiechiken1

(2,113 posts)
10. "Who is served by all this thick skin?"
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 08:09 PM
Mar 2022

In my experience, pretty much anyone/everyone who lives in the real world.

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