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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBeware of dismissing Trump as an idiot.
Yes, he's an ignorant, selfish, buffoon but that didn't prevent him from winning the presidency. In fact those qualities are probably the reasons he won and Trump knows it.
I worry that he will run and win again.
Impossible!, you say. The Republican party is leaving him, you say.
I say:
He has corrupted large portion of the Republican party in many states who will skew the voting tally to favor him.
He is desperate to regain the presidency to protect himself from prosecution.
The majority of the Republican party believe his lie that the election was stolen.
Remember:
We laughed when he entered the race.
We laughed when he had his ludicrous rallies.
We laughed when he debated Hillary.
We laughed.
He won.
If he decides to run again he will easily win the Republican nomination no matter what the media says right now.
The more arrogant and the worse he does in any debates, the more Republican votes he will gain. The majority of Republicans don't understand or care about a debate. They only want to see how he owns the Democratic nominee.
The more he can disrupt debates and campaigns, the more popular he will become and he knows this.
He has openly been committing crimes for more than 4 years and still not a single serious case has been brought against him.
He is an idiot but he has a genius for instilling a cult mentality in nearly half of the Republican electorate and manipulating the legal system so that he never has to face consequences for his crimes.
Beware of dismissing the idiot side of this monster.
The other side will destroy everything we hold dear if it's not taken seriously.
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(3,395 posts)underpants
(182,787 posts)Excellent post.
He also has to correct his losing. He knows he lost. Theres money to be made from the actual monkeys dancing for you. He lost in front of everyone and he cant stand it.
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Solomon
(12,310 posts)Underestimated, or in this case over estimated the American people.
RockRaven
(14,959 posts)help him get what he wants because they also can get what they want through his power.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)he is a cheating, lying bastard
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C Moon
(12,212 posts)PufPuf23
(8,768 posts)and management of MSM.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)Hillary was held to impossible standards while Trump was held to NO STANDARDS AT ALL
there was no GENIUS there, just a lot of fucking BULLSHIT
brush
(53,771 posts)He's used his old man's money, and that stolen from Mary Trump's father, to go into several businesses where he dodged paying his bills and got out of it by suing at the drop of a hat because he had more money to outlast vendors that sued him.
He's an idiot all right, propped up by ties to Putin, and that doesn't look so smart now does it? Calling monstrous war criminal Putin a genius will haunt him.
Oh, and if trump had just invested his money in safe investments like etfs or high yield mutual funds, he'd be richer than his multi-bankrupt ass is now.
Russian state-controlled media just today called for people to "help our partner trump." https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216543089
Good luck trump with being publicly called an asset/partner by Putin's media.
stopdiggin
(11,300 posts)convinces me that he is a person of very mediocre intellect and intelligence. And as often as we come back to the point, there doesn't seem to be any evidence otherwise. Almost without exception, there just does not appear to be any real 'there', there.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)He will lose the EC but right wing battleground states will replace their electors and send them to flip the vote.
And there is nothing we can do to stop it.
brush
(53,771 posts)He's too tainted by Putin who is now seen as a blood-stained war criminal.
SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)brush
(53,771 posts)SoonerPride
(12,286 posts)They intend to steal the next election
brush
(53,771 posts)He won't be the nominee. He's a loser tainted by connection to his "genius" friend, the blood-stained war criminal Putin.
Not to mention he's borderline incoherent in some of his interviews and appearances now.
You sond like you've already conceded 2024 to the republicans.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)His luck has got to run out at some point. And I hope when it does, he will go down spectacularly.
tavernier
(12,382 posts)Thats all.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)the idea he is "genius" is fucking ridiculous - imagine a woman or a POC behaving the way Trump does....I mean, COME ON
robbob
(3,528 posts)(or seems to be); being an idiot, even being obviously an idiot, doesnt seem to disqualify you from becoming president. At least 33% of Americans dont seem to care, or dont care to see, how completely unqualified he is for the job. And 33% plus gerrymandering and voter suppression combined with a slanted media that will gin up support for an idiot while criticizing and thus suppressing votes for a qualified candidate might be just enough to put him back in. God help us all.
brush
(53,771 posts)ties to war criminal Putin. Russian media is praising him and calling their partner.
And he's just publicly asked Putin, who is in the middle of his invasion of Ukraine, to help him get dirt on the Biden family.
Talk about not knowing how to read the moment.
Again, the idiot will not be the nominee.
Baitball Blogger
(46,701 posts)He seems stupid to us only because he keeps making decisions that we just assume will get him in trouble. But, he knows he will never have to face consequences. That's what he knows, that we don't want to accept. He's living that privileged life that many of us keep harping about and Trump is now proving is real.
old as dirt
(1,972 posts)Gave them early practice in repeating after him in unison while keeping a straight face at the same time.
That's a skill that takes some practice, so he gave them plenty of practice.
Baitball Blogger
(46,701 posts)This is going to end up a test of wills. What kind of America do we want to have in the end?
dweller
(23,629 posts)Hes done just fine w/out the presidency
Hes just after the grift, the $$ he can steal from the treasury like he did before
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gab13by13
(21,319 posts)he is mentally ill. When he asks Rafensperger to find him 11,780 votes, prosecutors say we can't indict him because he actually believes he won Georgia, that is brilliant, playing stupid.
He works for mobsters, he launders money, he never emails, he gets people to do his dirty work.
He paid off Stormy Daniels and Michael Cohen went to jail because he delivered the check that was signed by Trump. he is brilliant, the statute of limitations has expired.
He is the first president in 40 years to not release his taxes.
He never divested his businesses, he made money from being president while Jimmy Carter had to sell off his peanut farm, brilliant.
He lied about his finances to buy the lease for the DC Hotel which anyone who wanted to see him paid to stay there. Brilliant. And then when Tish James wanted to look into how he acquired the DC Hotel under false pretenses, he was allowed to sell his lease and make millions in profit. brilliant.
While president he had taxpayers buy his golf course, golf carts, which he then leased to the Secret Service. Brilliant.
Donald Trump lost the 2020 election and he is still the leader of the Putin Party, politicians travel to Mar-el-Loco to kiss his ring. Brilliant
He is being sued by E. Jeanne Carroll, who he supposedly raped in a department store, and he got Merrick Garland to defend him in court by defending the office of the presidency. I guess defaming someone who accuses you of rape is an official duty of the presidency. Brilliant.
Underestimate Trump at our peril.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)Democrats are treated like women and POC
brush
(53,771 posts)the republican nominee. Too tainted by the blood on his genius friend Putin's hands.
As far as underestimating him, he underestimated Biden. Remember, he got his ass kicked in 2020 and is still obcessed 24/7 with his loss.
Warpy
(111,252 posts)However, he is a very wealthy idiot who can hire smart people to do all the mental heavy lifting. Plus, he is a malignant narcissist, which means the personality of a rabid, cornered rat. He has neither an emotional nor moral center. The combination of wealth with that makes him very, very dangerous.
betsuni
(25,472 posts)His sentences usually follow the same pattern: says yes something's good, but maybe it's bad, he doesn't know. Whatever gets the most positive reaction from the crowd he goes with next time. More like an animal being trained to perform.
He hires people to keep him out of trouble.
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leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)Emile
(22,697 posts)Amishman
(5,556 posts)He is an oaf and won despite his horrid behaviors, not because of them.
This should not make us feel better - it should scare the hell out of us.
He found and tapped into something that was already there - a festering resentment towards modern progressive thought.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)I was not laughing, I feared what eventually happened as soon as he began his nazi campaign/ rallies etc. As he was allowed to run for office while he incited violence and the media gave him non stop free coverage. A fascist was installed in power and it could happen again. I think he and his supporters and the fascist kgop are already well on their way to destroying what is left after 4 years of a never ending nightmare and pandemic.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Any idiot can learn to be corrupt listening to corrupt lawyers. Trump is an idiot who has spent his entire life learning to be corrupt.
delisen
(6,042 posts)Vinca
(50,269 posts)of a large chunk of our population. Trump is, after all, still raking in millions from people who live hand-to-mouth and will keep on draining their pockets until he takes his last breath. I can't imagine what lala land they live in, but I wish to hell they would wake up and find their way out.
pwb
(11,261 posts)He is a privileged idiot and always has been.
Irish_Dem
(46,963 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,059 posts)Charismatic leaders can be dumb and still get people to follow them. They just have to have a knack for a couple key things, Trump has a knack for self promotion, he uses it to get what he wants. IQ wise? He's probably below 100, but he's a genius at a couple aspects of his life, self promotion and not paying his bills.
Hitler was an idiot too, but he had an aptitude for manipulating the masses.
Both Trump and Hitler had groups of enablers around them who are smarter than they are, people who see their power and want to gain from it too. It's these people that are the ones consolidating the support into action.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)Kaleva
(36,294 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)rallies people may post.
For those who think there will be some kind of "Romney-fied" transition to "normalcy" in the GOP (cough*Joe Scarborough*cough), well, I'd like to have some of what they're smoking.
dawg
(10,624 posts)A politician like him wouldn't stand a chance in a nation of responsible, ethical men and women.
librechik
(30,674 posts)all we can do is continue to shun and sanction him and his Russian pals. Eventually they will lose their popularity-- unless we all go down.
I'm going down fighting.
sarisataka
(18,621 posts)For not considering him an idiot.
Nothing on the Trump road has been a surprise to me