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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWTF? CNN just said that the DOJ's "investigation into HUNTER BIDEN is picking up steam."
So the kingpins of J-6 seem to be escaping investigation, but a guy who had zero to do with the
insurrection is facing mounting scrutiny. Now if our POTUS replaces Garland he'll definitely look
crooked, doing it only to protect his son, and not because of the lack of progress against the
former administration.
Something is pretty weird.
Emile
(22,707 posts)is taking over our government.
3Hotdogs
(12,374 posts)post of the year. (Second sentence).
JohnSJ
(92,187 posts)some time, regarding Hunter Bidens business dealings. It has nothing to do with President Joe Biden, and why CNN is highlighting this now, even though it is old news, is for the same reason that CNN thought it important to say the email investigation has been reopened, 11 days before the election, even though that was untrue, and to parade every right wing pundit across they screen perpetuating that lie
It stirs things up, and they can push their breaking news oled burn-in logo, every chance they get, to attract viewers.
The biggest risk we have is that Democrats dont stay United at the polls, and they dont bother to vote
JonAndKatePlusABird
(312 posts)Laughed out loud at that one. My OLED has MSNBCs breaking news banner burned in. Havent watched MSNBC in months either, that sucker is burned in and not going anywhere!
JohnSJ
(92,187 posts)potential for burn-in.
Plasmas had similar issues
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... ballot and only 7 points down on interest in voting.
That's GREAT for a prez who's approval is in the low 40s and RTWT is in the 70s.
We have a chance
JohnSJ
(92,187 posts)leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)Arguments and conspiracy theories are falling apart. Making as much noise about Hunter as rhey can is about all they have.
Aristus
(66,328 posts)They just have to shout the words Hunter Biden and investigation as often as they can on TV.
Celerity
(43,340 posts)https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/30/politics/hunter-biden-federal-investigation-heats-up/index.html
Washington (CNN) A Justice Department investigation into Hunter Biden's business activities has gained steam in recent months, with a flurry of witnesses providing testimony to federal investigators and more expected to provide interviews in the coming weeks, according to multiple sources familiar with the matter.
The probe, led by the US Attorney in Wilmington, Delaware, began as early as 2018 and concerns multiple financial and business activities in foreign countries dating to when Biden's father was vice president. Investigators have examined whether Hunter Biden and some of his associates violated money laundering, tax and foreign lobbying laws, as well as firearm and other regulations, multiple sources said.
To do so, law enforcement has gathered information from lobbyists connected to Hunter Biden, from his business partners, and from others who've observed his financial engagements, including a woman with whom he had a child. Hunter Biden has not been charged with any crimes and has denied any wrongdoing. His father, President Joe Biden is not being investigated as part of the probe of his son's business activities, according to sources who have been briefed.
But the ongoing investigation has persistently raised questions about the ethics and behavior of the President's son and fueled right-wing political attacks. In 2019, then-President Donald Trump pressured Ukraine to investigate the Bidens over Hunter's work for Burisma, a Ukrainian energy company, eventually leading to Trump's first impeachment.
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Vinca
(50,269 posts)They should be focusing on the upper levels of the food chain that tried to take down our government. Elie Mystal made a great comment on MSNBC a couple of days ago. They were talking about January 6 and Elie said something like "Shhhh, you might wake up Merrick Garland." That feels about the size of it. Does the AJ sit in his office and count paper clips all day or what????
gab13by13
(21,323 posts)The Feds have been investigating Hunter since 2018. I know, I'm not supposed to know that because DOJ doesn't leak.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... throughout the article there is NOT ONE charge that relates to actions of Biden's son
kairos12
(12,858 posts)I think this investigation has gone on longer than Muellers.
What a bunch of horseshit.
pwb
(11,261 posts)So who is right? Cable just spews out shit to see what sticks for the days talkers to discuss. I cant watch the puke owned cable news and C-span anymore. They are all against us, all of them.
Celerity
(43,340 posts)FBaggins
(26,731 posts)It would obviously seem highly trump-esque to fire the AG because he was investigating your son and hadn't arrested your political opponents.
gab13by13
(21,323 posts)the investigation began under Barr.
FBaggins
(26,731 posts)Firing him at this point would clearly be associated by many with the decisions he's made re: the two investigations (one desired by the right and the other by the left).
And... of course... that would precisely fit why some are calling for his replacement.
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)FBaggins
(26,731 posts)Ignoring the relative truth behind the two stories - whatever happened with Hunter Biden that DOJ might be investigating happened years before the events of J-6. The fact that the first might be "picking up steam" before the second is evidence that the "TFG should have been in jail 24 hours later!!" crowd doesn't understand how the DOJ operates.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Response to panader0 (Original post)
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Johnny2X2X
(19,060 posts)There is no laptop he left at some repair shop run by a blind man. That was simply invented by Right Waing conspiracy nuts.
Azathoth
(4,608 posts)Does this come from the same sources who revealed the microchips being put in vaccines?
Are you a troll? Yes, there was no laptop left at a small repair shop run by a blind man 3,000 miles away from where Hunter Biden lives. You're peddling Tucker Carlson conspiracy theories, Tucker said someone was sending Hunter Biden's laptop to him, but it got lost in the mail.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)Ridiculously low repair cost for one. Second, Apple uses a different file format for hard disks than windows. Windows will not run an Apple formatted drive. Giuliani was showing off an LG laptop running windows. It doesnt compute.
Keep in mind, if I hack your mail server account, I can download emails to any computer. I can then put anything on that computer and say it was yours.
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)We've decided that not only is Trump not going to be prosecuted, he's not even being investigated? Care to share your evidence?
panader0
(25,816 posts)And, by the way, I said "seem to be", not "are escaping". When CNN has a headline like
that (picking up steam), it is distressing to me. You must admit that when the DOJ leaks
that H B is being investigated, and nary a word, so far, that Trump is, it seems hinkey.
I have been one of those who was in the 'wait and see' mode about the DOJ, but with this
news I am starting to lose patience. It's past time now for news about the kingpins of J-6,
not some bs story about the POTUS's son.
I think I've been a patient Democrat, but I'm losing my patience, and I'm not alone. Even the
members of the J-6 committee are losing it too.
brooklynite
(94,520 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,369 posts)That's what I'm taking from your post.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Basically zero against H Biden (that I'm aware of). But who gets the headline?
My patience is getting thin. How about your patience?
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,369 posts)I meant that you seem to think that just because you haven't heard from the DoJ on the progress of the investigation, then there is no investigation happening.
JohnSJ
(92,187 posts)This has nothing to do with Joe Biden, and has been going on for a while
Typical of CNN to try and cast shade on the President by implication, when this is nothing new, and has nothing to do with Joe Biden
I guess because recent reports about trumps son have been in the news, Commercial filled CNN saw the need to play both side risks.
Today, Bloomberg has someone named Greg Valliere spewing how Biden will be a one-term president, blaming his catering to the progressive agenda as the problem.
No tax bill, urban crime, inflation, etc. The progressives have failed completely on their agenda. No defund the police, no Medicare For All, no wealth tax, so the idea that Biden should try and ingratiate himself makes no sense. He has to move to the center and stay in the center. According to Valliere, AGF investments chief US policy strategist
Bloomberg asked Valliere the question, isnt that what most analysts/commentators outside the party like yourself say, he went too far, while most progressives in the Democratic Party say he didnt go far enough? However, when you compare them to the republicans, yes there is a fringe group in the republicans that a lot of lifelong republicans do not like, and they are taking the republicans in the wrong direction, except the republicans are more unified that the Democrats will never be during the election
Valliere responded that the biggest risk for the republicans is that they over play their hand, on issue after issue, gay rights, abortion, a wide range of things, along with more scandals coming to light on trump, and the biggest enemy of the republicans is themselves, and they cause themselves self-inflicted wounds
It is a pretty bleak assessment, and no doubt Valliere seems quite bias for a centrist policy, but the one point he unintentionally suggested, is if the Democrats stick together, like the republicans do, in spite of disagreements at election time, we can prevail.
Tom Keene then made the following observation. The number of republicans in California used to represent about 30% of the states population, a minority in a Democratic state, however, Keene noted that registered republicans in California have decreased to 24%, which is a 17% decline in registered republicans in California in 4 or 5 years, and Keenes point was that the calculus for the upcoming elections are anything but normal, and anything can happen.
LiberalFighter
(50,912 posts)kairos12
(12,858 posts)Only comment on Democrat cases.
samsingh
(17,595 posts)we can do it
(12,184 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)doc03
(35,328 posts)DOJ's investigation into Hunter Biden is picking up steam.
mere coincidence, I am sure ...
former9thward
(31,997 posts)Recent developments date from February. This is from the Wall Street Journal
Prosecutors Advance Tax Probe of Hunter Biden
Grand jury heard witness in February about past drug use, spending habits of presidents son
A federal tax investigation into Hunter Biden is gaining momentum as prosecutors gather information from several of his associates about the sources of his foreign income, including from Ukraine, and examine President Bidens sons relationship with a company that handled some of his finances, according to people familiar with the matter.
In recent weeks, prosecutors from the U.S. attorneys office in Delaware have sought information and grand-jury testimony about the money Mr. Biden received several years ago from Ukrainian natural-gas company Burisma Holdings Ltd., and how he used that money to pay some obligations, one of those people said.
Last month, prosecutors also extensively questioned at least one other associate of Hunter Biden about Mr. Bidens drug and alcohol use, spending habits and state of mind in 2018, another person said, suggesting prosecutors are exploring whether such activity would present a defense against a potential criminal tax case.
Prosecutors often seek to get such testimony on the record to secure it before the defense gets a chance to present it more favorably at trial. It doesnt necessarily mean an indictment is imminent, but it is indicative of trying to lock in testimony with an eye towards a potential trial someday, said former federal tax prosecutor Matt Mueller, of the law firm Fogarty Mueller Harris, who isnt involved in the investigation.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/prosecutors-advance-tax-probe-of-hunter-biden-11648465200
There may be a paywall on this, I don't know.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)PRETZEL
(3,245 posts)Let's see,
Trump appointed USA in 2018,
Investigation started shortly thereafter,
The same laptop where they can't verify Hunter Biden's signature (let alone verify he came all the way from CA just to drop it off to a repair shop he didn't know),
The same laptop where people claim it was his because it had a Beau Biden Foundation sticker on it,
The same laptop that Rudy Guilliani suppoesedly to to New York,
The same laptop that only comes up when it's convenient to deflect from Trump stories,
Yeah, I believe every word of this story
Arazi
(6,829 posts)No way can they verify the chain of custody on any laptop purported to be Hunter Bidens.
Rudy Giuliani probably did get shitty Hunter Biden emails from the Russians (another reason #Traitor is asking for more) but how they got on a hinky laptop run thru a shady computer repair shop wont pass the sniff test
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Been scolded for MONTHS that DOJ doesnt leak, have patience, Garland is on the case!!$&@
Now we have this leak on Hunter Biden
🧐
Which I actually believe is happening. Hunter Biden spent a few seriously addicted years where he made a lot of massively bad judgement calls.
Joe Bidens right to let any investigation proceed. Hunter is his own grown man who is facing his own demons. Its not pretty.
Im hoping he didnt cross the legal lines but addiction fucks people up.
former9thward
(31,997 posts)There are witnesses to Grand Juries and they leak. Their lawyers leak. The lawyers for a potential defendant leak their versions. There is nothing stopping anyone from leaking. That is how these stories get out.
Arazi
(6,829 posts)former9thward
(31,997 posts)That is to say nothing above the nobody losers that were arrested and no one really cares about. We certainly do know about those cases.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Blue Owl
(50,356 posts)AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)This is just one more smokescreen and also a confluence of too many strange things: Prosecutors who come close to having enough evidence to file suddenly back off, but admit probable criminality they cant seem to even bust Trump on blatant fraud. This development. Merricks seeming inaction. The apparent impotence of the Jan. 6 committee and its myriad contempt citations.
The clock is ticking on this. And, as you say, if this is indeed true, Bidens hands are tied in terms of moving this along.
Im tired of being told to just wait and have faith in the process, that three-dimensional chess is being played, that theres stuff going on behind the scenes. Show some of these hands, already. Its increasingly clear to me that were fucked, and the system has been truly destroyed from within.
ETA: Morning Joe played a clip of Trump on a right-wing news channel, and he was directly asking Putin to pass on any information on Hunter Biden. Just like with HRCs e-mails. The balls on this guy are huge, but is it any wonder he says shit like this? Its because he gets away with it!
uponit7771
(90,335 posts).. involved in federally because at the most they are misdemeanor charges if he was guilty of all of it.
No seriously, they're investigating where HB got 45k to pay a tax lein !!!
Like someone with HBs money can't get access to 45k !!!
The "gun" accusation is LITERALLY should HB have access to a gun while he was additicted to drugs ?!?!!
WTF ?! That's not even a federal level offense !!!
The other BS is "allegations" HB was being overpaid at Burisma when CLEARLY there were others being pair MORE than him !!
The DOJ is spending 2 seconds on this stupid shit vs investigating Putrids Whore asking him for more help yesterday !!!!
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)My god, the audacity on so many levels.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... Biden saying what all decent human beings think policy or not !?
The M$M ... NO DOUBT ... has a anti Biden bias after claiming the Poland speech gaffe was news worthy.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)but I sure hope someone in Russia can.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)making it political but I think the guy needs to go for leaking.
UCmeNdc
(9,600 posts)Wow!
Mike Nelson
(9,953 posts)... this will be like Hillary's emails. The investigation into Hunter Biden will go on for years. If Republicans win in November, expect more investigations. They will say it's tied to Joe Biden. There will be calls for an impeachment...
Takket
(21,563 posts)I read it and Im absolutely LIVID right now. Look if Hunter broke the law and DOJ wants to look into it, fine, go ahead. He deserves the same treatment as anyone else.
But at the same time after over a YEAR of absolute CRICKETS on the insurrection masterminds, somehow THIS leaks out??? This is HEATING UP????
WHAT THE FUCK!!!
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... which wont even amount to misdemeanor charges !!
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Emile
(22,707 posts)andym
(5,443 posts)so there is a positive aspect-- no man is above the law under Joe Biden's DOJ. Even the media will be forced to admit the neutrality of the DOJ.
kairos12
(12,858 posts)know that the DOJ is actually quite busy.
Apparently.