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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSenator Susie has a middling conscience. Shouldn't the Repuke party have a whole third or more?
A cliche is that 1/3 are pro- something, 1/3 against, and 1/3 in the middle. So any vote on the correct side of things matters and is welcome, but she and those others supposedly in the Middle, the "mavericks" (we've got some of those in our Democratic side, too), claim to be "fair" and "concerned" and conscientious/whatever and sometimes buck their party and do the correct thing, but more often than not are pesky gnats to everybody on both sides, dangling their carrot and holding everybody hostage.
So COLLINS deigns to vote yes for KBJ, fine. Or insert "sarcasm" here: Whew, that was *HARD*, that doing the correct thing thingy. Seems like there should be more than a mushy *one* voting correctly on the Repuke side, on any given issue actually. Able and willing at least to pretend to torture themselves twisting into a pretzel before finally coming down on the correct thing.
Wait, no: What we suspected forever, that the Repukes' core values were all rotted, all about greed, racism, unregulated excess, has been proved out in the Drumpf era, exposing even more: Complete lack of moral ground, negative ethics, anti-government, anti-democracy, anti-country itself.
But back to those in the "Middle": Turns out that JFK was paraphrasing, not quoting, DANTE's Inferno about "the hottest places in hell" being reserved for those who in times of moral dilemmas don't take sides. Especially since in Inferno Satan's place is ICE, not fire.
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https://quoteinvestigator.com/2015/01/14/hottest/
Dante Alighieri? John F. Kennedy? John A. Hutton? Theodore Roosevelt? W. M. Vines? Henry Powell Spring? Apocryphal?
.... Quote Investigator: Dantes poem does include a section describing the fate of individuals who were neutral between good and evil. Their experiences were gruesome, but they were not placed in a location that was scorching hot.
Dante placed Satan at the lowest part of Hell which was at the center of the Earth, but that location was also not hot. Instead, Satan was trapped with ice around his waist. ....
Dante once said that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality, he/(JFK) declared. This question of the basic right of each citizen to be permitted to develop his talents to the maximum regardless of his race or creed is a moral question. ....
In conclusion, this quotation did not appear in Inferno by Dante Alighieri, and it does not accurately reflect the location of neutral beings in Dantes elaborate eschatology. Nevertheless, QI conjectures that the statement evolved from a flawed re-interpretation of Dantes work. The earliest close match in 1944 was published by Henry Powell Spring who credited Dante. The cast of sinners assigned to the worst part of hell by religious thinkers has varied substantially throughout history.
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jimfields33
(15,789 posts)Sadly senators are not nationwide elections even though they affect the nation.
UTUSN
(70,686 posts)jimfields33
(15,789 posts)UTUSN
(70,686 posts)jimfields33
(15,789 posts)They are not republican or democratic voters exclusively. Rare in a state today.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)In this case, it may actually work out in favor of the good guys. But she's not built for any serious challenge to the poobahs of her party. Which is why I think her showboating is because Judge Jackson's confirmation is a done deal, and Collins likes being on the winning side. Besides, this nomination doesn't really affect the Court's balance, so what the hey.