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Apparently bad news re: Bruce Willis (Original Post) PCIntern Mar 2022 OP
thats rough milestogo Mar 2022 #1
If it's a brain tumor PCIntern Mar 2022 #3
Question BeerBarrelPolka Mar 2022 #27
Yes I do... PCIntern Mar 2022 #32
Yes BeerBarrelPolka Mar 2022 #35
I'm so very sorry... PCIntern Mar 2022 #40
Thanks very much BeerBarrelPolka Mar 2022 #43
Oh man, sorry to hear that! calimary Mar 2022 #50
Thank you BeerBarrelPolka Mar 2022 #51
I remember going through this after my late husband's stroke. WinstonSmith4740 Mar 2022 #37
That helps to explain the last 10 or so crap movies he's made. Liberal In Texas Mar 2022 #2
Oooof greenjar_01 Mar 2022 #5
He was in 8 movies last year...and 8 this year underpants Mar 2022 #10
We won't even consider watching a movie we see on Netflix anymore if he's in it. Liberal In Texas Mar 2022 #13
Far better DENVERPOPS Mar 2022 #36
There have been rumors that he has been cashing in before he is physically unable to anymore. LexVegas Mar 2022 #16
That makes a lot of sense. LiberatedUSA Mar 2022 #65
Tell it Traildogbob Mar 2022 #25
You need not tell us you a Liberal Texas style, your cruelty shows in your posting NotHardly Mar 2022 #39
Whatever. Liberal In Texas Mar 2022 #41
What a mean to say, self delete it. USALiberal Mar 2022 #55
Wow that's brain damage! Emile Mar 2022 #4
Damn. AngryOldDem Mar 2022 #6
Terry Jones VGNonly Mar 2022 #7
How many times did he take a blow to the head in no_hypocrisy Mar 2022 #8
I would suspect a lot fewer then you would imagine. robbob Mar 2022 #24
Not if he did his own stunts. Tom Cruise does most if not all of his stunts. gldstwmn Mar 2022 #56
My dad died from this in 2016 puddy3480 Mar 2022 #9
What are the effects of it? I read the ability to speak goes... brush Mar 2022 #15
One doesn't die from aphasia PCIntern Mar 2022 #17
+1, uponit7771 Mar 2022 #19
Impaired ability to understand speech also. Torchlight Mar 2022 #20
It is a progressive disease puddy3480 Mar 2022 #21
I assume it was a brain tumor or some other PCIntern Mar 2022 #23
Oh dear, I'm sorry to hear this FakeNoose Mar 2022 #11
No. Williams had Lewy Body Dementia. NT CottonBear Mar 2022 #14
I had a long term home health patient with aphasia tavernier Mar 2022 #12
Damn, I have aphasia from a brain injury ... it can be deblitating uponit7771 Mar 2022 #18
I'm so sorry to hear that. highplainsdem Mar 2022 #57
thx, much like Biden its hiden but it'll come out with heightened excitement and complex words or .. uponit7771 Mar 2022 #63
I didn't know what aphasia is. Looked it up SpankMe Mar 2022 #22
I loved him on "Moonlighting" shenmue Mar 2022 #26
i LOVED that show! CurtEastPoint Mar 2022 #30
I did too! blueinredohio Mar 2022 #45
Best show of the 80s. So creative and sharp. Boomerproud Mar 2022 #52
Fifth Element is one of my favorite movies! Initech Mar 2022 #54
I own a DVD copy of 5th Element because I never get tired of it. Brilliant on so many levels, and Martin68 Mar 2022 #61
Such a great flick. I need to watch it again, it's been a while. Initech Mar 2022 #64
Yes, many of his movies are just a job to put retirement money in the bank, but the man can Martin68 Mar 2022 #28
I agree.... PCIntern Mar 2022 #33
Agree DENVERPOPS Mar 2022 #38
+1 MustLoveBeagles Mar 2022 #46
My uncle suffered from aphasia Siwsan Mar 2022 #29
Sad to hear this. I wish Bruce and his family well. Greybnk48 Mar 2022 #53
I'm very sorry to hear this. MLAA Mar 2022 #31
Wishing him the best DET Mar 2022 #34
Very sad. I wish him the best. EOM Scottie Mom Mar 2022 #42
I had aphasia from a food allergy, for a couple years. CaptainTruth Mar 2022 #44
I don't know if he had COVID, but one of the diseases which causes aphasis is COVID. Ms. Toad Mar 2022 #47
My wife and I watched "Hudson Hawk" the other night Algernon Moncrieff Mar 2022 #48
I have expressive aphasia. Mine is caused by minor strokes. I have 5 or 6 a year for 5 years. marie999 Mar 2022 #49
Thank you for discussing your case.. PCIntern Mar 2022 #60
I looked up how old he is canetoad Mar 2022 #58
The aphasia can affect his acting since it usually affects speech. marie999 Mar 2022 #62
Between Moonlighting and his role in Sin City Torchlight Mar 2022 #59

PCIntern

(25,467 posts)
3. If it's a brain tumor
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 01:02 PM
Mar 2022

depends….

If stroke, also depends but my guess is that it’s a tumor -a gut feeling. I have a lot of clinical experience with these issues surrounding brain damage. Not great.

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,202 posts)
27. Question
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 02:31 PM
Mar 2022

Do you have any experience with dementia pugilistica, post concussion syndrome, and CTE?

Thank you

PCIntern

(25,467 posts)
32. Yes I do...
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 02:49 PM
Mar 2022

As a dentist here in the great city of Philadelphia, I have treated a fair number of retired boxers. I treat one young gentleman who was tuned up in a preliminary bout for the Olympics, with head protection at all, who will never be the same. This incident occurred 20+ years ago and he is slowly deteriorating.

The syndromes associated with the retired career boxers are extremely upsetting and as far as I can see, irreversible.

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,202 posts)
35. Yes
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 02:55 PM
Mar 2022

Yes, I know. I am living it. It has taken a turn for the worse for me now. Goofy stuff that make some people look strangely at me. But I am trying to deal with it the best I can (former boxer, wrestler, martial artist).

PCIntern

(25,467 posts)
40. I'm so very sorry...
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 03:06 PM
Mar 2022

Since I treat a fair number of patients with this condition, I’ve developed a little spiel for it. Obviously, people are uncomfortable broaching the subject with me, so I say to them that I understand that they have a problem and sometimes it might be difficult to express exactly what their needs or issues are. I tell them to take their time, and I will help them in any way I can, that I am not running any races and that I have plenty of time and no worries, that it’s absolutely not an issue. Almost unanimously, they are most thankful for this reassurance because people do not seem to understand that it’s an expressive disorder, it’s not a cognitive disorder in and of itself.

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,202 posts)
43. Thanks very much
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 03:14 PM
Mar 2022

It's great that you can handle that situation. Right now with me I get words mixed up, don't remember familiar names, and have limited short term recall. Plus I have some physical things like I can't eat soup normally because my hand will shake with the spoon in it and things along those lines. Sometimes it gets where i am totally confused and lost. It's high anxiety for sure.

calimary

(81,085 posts)
50. Oh man, sorry to hear that!
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 03:55 PM
Mar 2022

Earned a black belt years ago but wasn’t very good at the sparring part. Never dated go without a helmet, though!

My sympathies to you, my friend.

Sometimes I think DU helps keep the brain exercised at least to some extent, so I hope you’re able to stick around and take advantage.

If you can’t beat it, maybe you can slow it down?

BeerBarrelPolka

(1,202 posts)
51. Thank you
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 04:05 PM
Mar 2022

I appreciate it. I do mental exercises and they do seem to help. I also do everything the same as much as I can. But I also take care of my mom who has Alzheimer's and that has accelerated my decline as it's high stress. I just have to slow things down sometimes to think clearly.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,055 posts)
37. I remember going through this after my late husband's stroke.
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 03:01 PM
Mar 2022

Not a good time. Especially when you consider his profession had been management and training, and he made his living speaking. What I always found fascinating is that he could describe stuff..."the box in the kitchen that cooks food", but couldn't come up with "oven". Or when the speech therapist showed him a picture of a door, and he said "opening". The therapist just laughed and said, "Well, I can't say he's wrong!"

Liberal In Texas

(13,528 posts)
2. That helps to explain the last 10 or so crap movies he's made.
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 01:00 PM
Mar 2022

But seriously. That's terrible. I'm sorry to hear it and I wish him luck in treatments.

Liberal In Texas

(13,528 posts)
13. We won't even consider watching a movie we see on Netflix anymore if he's in it.
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 01:31 PM
Mar 2022

It's sad, but the ones we've did sit through in the recent past were all B or C grade one star movies.

Sometimes the producers put him in the movie for about 2 minutes just to trade on his name.

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
65. That makes a lot of sense.
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 05:34 PM
Mar 2022

It explains why he has been following the path of Steven Seagal with the non-stop movie crapfest. He knew his income days were limited.

But he must have a lot of money. A portfolio worth many millions of dollars must generate a lot of dividends; if he is doing such a thing.

Traildogbob

(8,670 posts)
25. Tell it
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 02:11 PM
Mar 2022

I really like he, he has done some great action movies, but damn, I actually paid for a Blu-ray of Apex, thinking he would carry it. Not much out on disc last two years, just thought it would be fun. But that has to be the worst action movie ever made. I was I’m stressed for him. He hid behind trees a lot. Not even good enough to watch to block out MSM for an hour and a half. I wish him the best. It hope he takes better offers ahead.

NotHardly

(1,062 posts)
39. You need not tell us you a Liberal Texas style, your cruelty shows in your posting
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 03:04 PM
Mar 2022

Never knew anyone with a debilitating illness before, is that right?

 

puddy3480

(5 posts)
9. My dad died from this in 2016
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 01:13 PM
Mar 2022

He was only 66 years old. There is no cure, and no set timeline on how long he will live or be able to live a comfortable life.

Torchlight

(3,292 posts)
20. Impaired ability to understand speech also.
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 01:45 PM
Mar 2022

Sometimes loss of ability to read and/or write.

Those were the symptoms I remember from when a college prof of mine told us she had been recently diagnosed with it but would continue to teach as long as she could.

Four months later, she retired and in the last month she taught, we could observe these signs in her at that time she'd previously told us about. A specific memory is watching her stand at the giant chalk board writing something and then just freezing up, looking at us in confusion and then, as soon as it had showed up, she seemed right as rain again.

She passed four years later, but from cancer.

 

puddy3480

(5 posts)
21. It is a progressive disease
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 01:47 PM
Mar 2022

He begin with trouble with words, and then memory. Over time it affected his ability to move or walk, and even eat and his body broke down. Needed help with all day to day activities and was in hospice for the last 2 weeks of his life.

PCIntern

(25,467 posts)
23. I assume it was a brain tumor or some other
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 02:04 PM
Mar 2022

Brain-involved pathology. The only way you could die from aphasia is if you were in a life-threatening situation and could not express yourself clearly that you were in danger.

tavernier

(12,368 posts)
12. I had a long term home health patient with aphasia
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 01:29 PM
Mar 2022

due to brain hemorrhage. I could decipher a good deal of what she was saying, even though it was garbled, but she couldn’t understand any of our words/speech. I found that we communicated best with a sort of sign language.

Very hard on family and loved ones.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
63. thx, much like Biden its hiden but it'll come out with heightened excitement and complex words or ..
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 05:27 PM
Mar 2022

... ideas I have to string together.

I can see it in Biden and thank God for his life because he looks GOOD at 76.

SpankMe

(2,955 posts)
22. I didn't know what aphasia is. Looked it up
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 01:54 PM
Mar 2022

Horrifying. Lewy Body, Alzheimer's, aphasia...these diseases of the brain are truly sad and terrifying. I suppose we don't know the causes. But we must take better care of ourselves.

Martin68

(22,755 posts)
61. I own a DVD copy of 5th Element because I never get tired of it. Brilliant on so many levels, and
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 04:52 PM
Mar 2022

funny too. It's the Philip K. Dick novel that Dick never wrote.

Martin68

(22,755 posts)
28. Yes, many of his movies are just a job to put retirement money in the bank, but the man can
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 02:31 PM
Mar 2022

actually act. I wish some of the people above would dispense with the cheap shots at someone suffering from brain damage.

DENVERPOPS

(8,787 posts)
38. Agree
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 03:04 PM
Mar 2022

I try to refrain from trashing the most psychologically damaged person on earth.......Trump. Along with DeSantis and Abbot. NOT...

MustLoveBeagles

(11,580 posts)
46. +1
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 03:37 PM
Mar 2022

This is sad news. It's below the belt to mock him just because he made some bad movies and has political views we don't disagree with. I've never been a fan of kicking people when they're down. My heart goes out to him and his family and friends. My husband is a big fan of his. This news will upset him a lot.

Siwsan

(26,241 posts)
29. My uncle suffered from aphasia
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 02:33 PM
Mar 2022

He later developed Alzheimer's. He had a very rough time. It was heartbreaking.

Greybnk48

(10,162 posts)
53. Sad to hear this. I wish Bruce and his family well.
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 04:31 PM
Mar 2022

He's one of the few Republicans I've been able to continue liking. Damn!

DET

(1,298 posts)
34. Wishing him the best
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 02:54 PM
Mar 2022

My brother has primary progressive aphasia (PPA) after two strokes caused by an AVM (arteriovenous malformation - a congenital malformation of the blood vessels) bleed in the cerebellum. He then developed early onset Alzheimer’s. He can’t speak coherently at all anymore. It’s very hard on the family.

CaptainTruth

(6,572 posts)
44. I had aphasia from a food allergy, for a couple years.
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 03:25 PM
Mar 2022

I kept eating a food I didn't know I was allergic to & it caused full on episodes of aphasia. People could look at me & talk, I would see their lips moving & hear they were making sounds but it was all gobblygook, just random nonsense, I couldn't understand a word. If I tried to talk all I could do was make sounds, I couldn't form words. It usually lasted 20-30 minutes & it was scary as hell because I was fully aware of what was happening.

Long story short, after 3 different doctors over 2 years who couldn't find anything wrong, I finally got a doctor who said I might have a food allergy & referred me to an allergy specialist. Sure enough, we discovered I'm allergic to soybeans, specifically the soy protein molecule. I eliminated soy (including soybean oil) from my diet & no more aphasia. Also, a general persistent "mental fog" that I'd been suffering from disappeared & I once again had mental clarity. I had gotten so bad I was convinced I was going to die, I remember sending Christmas cards one year & thinking to myself "This is the last time I'll do this" because I literally could not imagine myself being alive at next Christmas.

All because of a freaking undiagnosed food allergy. And for a glimpse into my life, read the labels on the things you buy at the grocery store. Bread? 90% has soy. Salad dressing? 95% has soy. Margarine? 98% has soy. Soybean oil is everywhere. The only good thing I've discovered is that soy lecithin (used in a lot of chocolate) contains only trace amounts of the protein so I can still enjoy a chocolate treat from time to time.

I'm sure Bruce will have doctors who will check out things like allergies, so I will wish him the best of luck & hope it's not too serious.

Ms. Toad

(33,992 posts)
47. I don't know if he had COVID, but one of the diseases which causes aphasis is COVID.
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 03:38 PM
Mar 2022

My employee is struggling with this symptom, and is participating in a research study to evaluate that, and other, long-term consequences. She was vaccinated and boosted, and had a "mild" case of COVID.

Algernon Moncrieff

(5,781 posts)
48. My wife and I watched "Hudson Hawk" the other night
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 03:40 PM
Mar 2022

The movie is not great, but the takeaway should have been to put Willis and Danny Aiello is about 10 buddy pictures together, because they had great on-screen rapport.

I disagree with Willis on politics, but I don't wish this on him and I hope the folks at Mayo can find a way through this for him.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
49. I have expressive aphasia. Mine is caused by minor strokes. I have 5 or 6 a year for 5 years.
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 03:47 PM
Mar 2022

That's 5 or 6 six waves of them over a month or so. Expressive aphasia is when you can understand other people but you can't express your thoughts. Mine only lasts about 5 hours. I carry a note from my doctor so if it happens when I am shopping it tells someone to call 911 and tell them I am having a minor stroke and let the hospital know who I am because they have all my records. I used to drive myself to the hospital, but my VA primary care said no because I wouldn't know what else might happen. I only go to the hospital because they have to scan my brain to see if I am bleeding, likely not so far. I hope his aphasia isn't any worse than mine. Aphasia will not kill you, but the reason you have aphasia might.

PCIntern

(25,467 posts)
60. Thank you for discussing your case..
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 04:49 PM
Mar 2022

It will enlighten many who read it. You take good care now, and stay well!!!

canetoad

(17,135 posts)
58. I looked up how old he is
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 04:40 PM
Mar 2022

B. 19 March, 1955. That's six months to the day younger than I am and a lot younger than many DUers. Very sad.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
62. The aphasia can affect his acting since it usually affects speech.
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 04:55 PM
Mar 2022

But the real problem is what is causing it. It could be from very mild strokes all the way to brain cancer. Let's hope it's very mild strokes.

Torchlight

(3,292 posts)
59. Between Moonlighting and his role in Sin City
Wed Mar 30, 2022, 04:42 PM
Mar 2022

and Die Hard, I've really enjoyed his performances.

Really a drag to see people I watched as a young guy taking on these health concerns (could be just selfishness on my part though-- it reminds me I'm just not a young guy either).

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