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According to CNN he is taking a break from acting and one of his symptoms apparently is that he has aphasia. This is both sad and very frightening.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/30/entertainment/bruce-willis-aphasia/index.html
https://www.inquirer.com/health/aphasia-bruce-willis-brain-disorder-causes-20220330.html
milestogo
(16,829 posts)Do people ever recover from it?
PCIntern
(25,467 posts)depends
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If stroke, also depends but my guess is that its a tumor -a gut feeling. I have a lot of clinical experience with these issues surrounding brain damage. Not great.
BeerBarrelPolka
(1,202 posts)Do you have any experience with dementia pugilistica, post concussion syndrome, and CTE?
Thank you
PCIntern
(25,467 posts)As a dentist here in the great city of Philadelphia, I have treated a fair number of retired boxers. I treat one young gentleman who was tuned up in a preliminary bout for the Olympics, with head protection at all, who will never be the same. This incident occurred 20+ years ago and he is slowly deteriorating.
The syndromes associated with the retired career boxers are extremely upsetting and as far as I can see, irreversible.
BeerBarrelPolka
(1,202 posts)Yes, I know. I am living it. It has taken a turn for the worse for me now. Goofy stuff that make some people look strangely at me. But I am trying to deal with it the best I can (former boxer, wrestler, martial artist).
PCIntern
(25,467 posts)Since I treat a fair number of patients with this condition, Ive developed a little spiel for it. Obviously, people are uncomfortable broaching the subject with me, so I say to them that I understand that they have a problem and sometimes it might be difficult to express exactly what their needs or issues are. I tell them to take their time, and I will help them in any way I can, that I am not running any races and that I have plenty of time and no worries, that its absolutely not an issue. Almost unanimously, they are most thankful for this reassurance because people do not seem to understand that its an expressive disorder, its not a cognitive disorder in and of itself.
BeerBarrelPolka
(1,202 posts)It's great that you can handle that situation. Right now with me I get words mixed up, don't remember familiar names, and have limited short term recall. Plus I have some physical things like I can't eat soup normally because my hand will shake with the spoon in it and things along those lines. Sometimes it gets where i am totally confused and lost. It's high anxiety for sure.
calimary
(81,085 posts)Earned a black belt years ago but wasnt very good at the sparring part. Never dated go without a helmet, though!
My sympathies to you, my friend.
Sometimes I think DU helps keep the brain exercised at least to some extent, so I hope youre able to stick around and take advantage.
If you cant beat it, maybe you can slow it down?
BeerBarrelPolka
(1,202 posts)I appreciate it. I do mental exercises and they do seem to help. I also do everything the same as much as I can. But I also take care of my mom who has Alzheimer's and that has accelerated my decline as it's high stress. I just have to slow things down sometimes to think clearly.
WinstonSmith4740
(3,055 posts)Not a good time. Especially when you consider his profession had been management and training, and he made his living speaking. What I always found fascinating is that he could describe stuff..."the box in the kitchen that cooks food", but couldn't come up with "oven". Or when the speech therapist showed him a picture of a door, and he said "opening". The therapist just laughed and said, "Well, I can't say he's wrong!"
Liberal In Texas
(13,528 posts)But seriously. That's terrible. I'm sorry to hear it and I wish him luck in treatments.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)underpants
(182,588 posts)Liberal In Texas
(13,528 posts)It's sad, but the ones we've did sit through in the recent past were all B or C grade one star movies.
Sometimes the producers put him in the movie for about 2 minutes just to trade on his name.
DENVERPOPS
(8,787 posts)than anti-Semitic Mel Gibson or other hyper racist actors. Sinese? is another one........
LexVegas
(6,024 posts)Its sad.
LiberatedUSA
(1,666 posts)It explains why he has been following the path of Steven Seagal with the non-stop movie crapfest. He knew his income days were limited.
But he must have a lot of money. A portfolio worth many millions of dollars must generate a lot of dividends; if he is doing such a thing.
Traildogbob
(8,670 posts)I really like he, he has done some great action movies, but damn, I actually paid for a Blu-ray of Apex, thinking he would carry it. Not much out on disc last two years, just thought it would be fun. But that has to be the worst action movie ever made. I was Im stressed for him. He hid behind trees a lot. Not even good enough to watch to block out MSM for an hour and a half. I wish him the best. It hope he takes better offers ahead.
NotHardly
(1,062 posts)Never knew anyone with a debilitating illness before, is that right?
Liberal In Texas
(13,528 posts)USALiberal
(10,877 posts)Emile
(22,461 posts)AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)VGNonly
(7,480 posts)of Monty Python fame died from aphasia in 2020.
no_hypocrisy
(46,019 posts)Die Hard movies? Like concussions in the NFL.
robbob
(3,522 posts)Because, you know, its a movie 😁
gldstwmn
(4,575 posts)puddy3480
(5 posts)He was only 66 years old. There is no cure, and no set timeline on how long he will live or be able to live a comfortable life.
brush
(53,737 posts)any others?
PCIntern
(25,467 posts)Its a symptom of a condition or disease
Torchlight
(3,292 posts)Sometimes loss of ability to read and/or write.
Those were the symptoms I remember from when a college prof of mine told us she had been recently diagnosed with it but would continue to teach as long as she could.
Four months later, she retired and in the last month she taught, we could observe these signs in her at that time she'd previously told us about. A specific memory is watching her stand at the giant chalk board writing something and then just freezing up, looking at us in confusion and then, as soon as it had showed up, she seemed right as rain again.
She passed four years later, but from cancer.
puddy3480
(5 posts)He begin with trouble with words, and then memory. Over time it affected his ability to move or walk, and even eat and his body broke down. Needed help with all day to day activities and was in hospice for the last 2 weeks of his life.
PCIntern
(25,467 posts)Brain-involved pathology. The only way you could die from aphasia is if you were in a life-threatening situation and could not express yourself clearly that you were in danger.
FakeNoose
(32,556 posts)(link) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphasia
Is this what happened to Robin Williams?
CottonBear
(21,596 posts)tavernier
(12,368 posts)due to brain hemorrhage. I could decipher a good deal of what she was saying, even though it was garbled, but she couldnt understand any of our words/speech. I found that we communicated best with a sort of sign language.
Very hard on family and loved ones.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)highplainsdem
(48,892 posts)uponit7771
(90,301 posts)... ideas I have to string together.
I can see it in Biden and thank God for his life because he looks GOOD at 76.
SpankMe
(2,955 posts)Horrifying. Lewy Body, Alzheimer's, aphasia...these diseases of the brain are truly sad and terrifying. I suppose we don't know the causes. But we must take better care of ourselves.
shenmue
(38,506 posts)Good health to him.
CurtEastPoint
(18,613 posts)blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Loved his singing!
Boomerproud
(7,938 posts)I wish him the best.🙏
Initech
(100,029 posts)Martin68
(22,755 posts)funny too. It's the Philip K. Dick novel that Dick never wrote.
Initech
(100,029 posts)Martin68
(22,755 posts)actually act. I wish some of the people above would dispense with the cheap shots at someone suffering from brain damage.
PCIntern
(25,467 posts)This is not the time to become a hurtful film critic.
DENVERPOPS
(8,787 posts)I try to refrain from trashing the most psychologically damaged person on earth.......Trump. Along with DeSantis and Abbot. NOT...
MustLoveBeagles
(11,580 posts)This is sad news. It's below the belt to mock him just because he made some bad movies and has political views we don't disagree with. I've never been a fan of kicking people when they're down. My heart goes out to him and his family and friends. My husband is a big fan of his. This news will upset him a lot.
Siwsan
(26,241 posts)He later developed Alzheimer's. He had a very rough time. It was heartbreaking.
Greybnk48
(10,162 posts)He's one of the few Republicans I've been able to continue liking. Damn!
MLAA
(17,238 posts)DET
(1,298 posts)My brother has primary progressive aphasia (PPA) after two strokes caused by an AVM (arteriovenous malformation - a congenital malformation of the blood vessels) bleed in the cerebellum. He then developed early onset Alzheimers. He cant speak coherently at all anymore. Its very hard on the family.
Scottie Mom
(5,812 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,572 posts)I kept eating a food I didn't know I was allergic to & it caused full on episodes of aphasia. People could look at me & talk, I would see their lips moving & hear they were making sounds but it was all gobblygook, just random nonsense, I couldn't understand a word. If I tried to talk all I could do was make sounds, I couldn't form words. It usually lasted 20-30 minutes & it was scary as hell because I was fully aware of what was happening.
Long story short, after 3 different doctors over 2 years who couldn't find anything wrong, I finally got a doctor who said I might have a food allergy & referred me to an allergy specialist. Sure enough, we discovered I'm allergic to soybeans, specifically the soy protein molecule. I eliminated soy (including soybean oil) from my diet & no more aphasia. Also, a general persistent "mental fog" that I'd been suffering from disappeared & I once again had mental clarity. I had gotten so bad I was convinced I was going to die, I remember sending Christmas cards one year & thinking to myself "This is the last time I'll do this" because I literally could not imagine myself being alive at next Christmas.
All because of a freaking undiagnosed food allergy. And for a glimpse into my life, read the labels on the things you buy at the grocery store. Bread? 90% has soy. Salad dressing? 95% has soy. Margarine? 98% has soy. Soybean oil is everywhere. The only good thing I've discovered is that soy lecithin (used in a lot of chocolate) contains only trace amounts of the protein so I can still enjoy a chocolate treat from time to time.
I'm sure Bruce will have doctors who will check out things like allergies, so I will wish him the best of luck & hope it's not too serious.
Ms. Toad
(33,992 posts)My employee is struggling with this symptom, and is participating in a research study to evaluate that, and other, long-term consequences. She was vaccinated and boosted, and had a "mild" case of COVID.
Algernon Moncrieff
(5,781 posts)The movie is not great, but the takeaway should have been to put Willis and Danny Aiello is about 10 buddy pictures together, because they had great on-screen rapport.
I disagree with Willis on politics, but I don't wish this on him and I hope the folks at Mayo can find a way through this for him.
marie999
(3,334 posts)That's 5 or 6 six waves of them over a month or so. Expressive aphasia is when you can understand other people but you can't express your thoughts. Mine only lasts about 5 hours. I carry a note from my doctor so if it happens when I am shopping it tells someone to call 911 and tell them I am having a minor stroke and let the hospital know who I am because they have all my records. I used to drive myself to the hospital, but my VA primary care said no because I wouldn't know what else might happen. I only go to the hospital because they have to scan my brain to see if I am bleeding, likely not so far. I hope his aphasia isn't any worse than mine. Aphasia will not kill you, but the reason you have aphasia might.
PCIntern
(25,467 posts)It will enlighten many who read it. You take good care now, and stay well!!!
canetoad
(17,135 posts)B. 19 March, 1955. That's six months to the day younger than I am and a lot younger than many DUers. Very sad.
marie999
(3,334 posts)But the real problem is what is causing it. It could be from very mild strokes all the way to brain cancer. Let's hope it's very mild strokes.
Torchlight
(3,292 posts)and Die Hard, I've really enjoyed his performances.
Really a drag to see people I watched as a young guy taking on these health concerns (could be just selfishness on my part though-- it reminds me I'm just not a young guy either).