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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA hotel banned Native Americans. The Sioux hit back with a trespassing order.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/03/30/south-dakota-hotel-native-americans/
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On March 20, one day after a young Native American man was shot at a Rapid City, S.D., hotel, the owner posted on Facebook that she was implementing a new guest policy.
We will no long[er] allow any Native American on property, wrote Connie Uhre, owner of the Grand Gateway Hotel, according to a screenshot of the post.
The social media post set off a firestorm in Rapid City, South Dakotas second most populated city, where about 10 percent of residents are of Native descent. A nonprofit group that defends the rights of Native Americans has filed a federal class-action lawsuit against the hotel and Uhre, alleging racial discrimination, and Sioux tribal leaders have served the hotel with a trespassing order, saying the Grand Gateway is on Native land, in violation of an 1868 treaty.
Some of our people were shocked and upset after seeing that social media post, Harold Frazier, chairman of the Cheyenne River Sioux Tribe, told The Washington Post. Some of our people were like, We always go through this, but to really see it in writing, it caused a lot of anger.
Gateway Hotel is in our treaty land, he added. By treaty and by law, we still own that land.
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Coventina
(27,093 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)Power to the 1st People.
👍🍃
Brother Buzz
(36,411 posts)Grand Gateway Hotel of Rapid City is temporarily closed, but a little birdie told me the Sioux Nation is inside measuring curtains.
calimary
(81,194 posts)Its on THEIR land? Why not? They could rehire everybody involved and then all would benefit.
Or maybe Im just being naive with my wishful thinking
SergeStorms
(19,192 posts)Unless they pay quadruple prices for the honor of staying at the Lakota Hotel.
Republicans are so damned messy, and they carry diseases.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)Maraya1969
(22,474 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)☆3-star hotel
Temporarily closed
Demovictory9
(32,445 posts)Chainfire
(17,526 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,151 posts)From her hotel because some people who happened to be Native American did something wrong. So how often have white people done something wrong in her hotel? There are probably hundreds of white people who have staid there and did damage or something else wrong. But she never ever considered barring all white people.
Racist can't help being god awful racists. And they don't even notice it when they do it.
I wonder if that treaty would stand up in Court?
luvtheGWN
(1,336 posts)It should, but sadly it won't. Just about every treaty made with native Americans in the past 200 years has been broken, so imagine the precedent this would set. The courts wouldn't have time to deal with the thousands upon thousands of suits.
And Canada's record isn't much better, although we are trying to make amends through the Truth and Reconciliation Committee.
You make such a good point about white folks misbehaving in her Hotel. Gee, I can't imagine that that hasn't happened...many times over.
ShazzieB
(16,357 posts)Nobody knows better than our Native American friends that those treaties weren't worth the paper they were printed on. I suspect the Sioux Nation is just using the treaty to make a point and generate unfavorable publicity for the hotel and favorable publicity for the discrimination lawsuit.
The Sioux know good and well they're going to win that lawsuit, treaty or no treaty. A private business refusing to provide service to people of a particular race isn't going to fly in ANY court. That's just plain illegal, and how those hotel owners thought they could get away with it is beyond me.
Meanwhile, if the Sioux can generate enough bad publicity, that hotel may end up crawling to the Sioux Nation on their hands and knees, offering a nice fat out of court settlement to make this go away.
The Sioux know exactly what they're doing, and I applaud them for it.
paleotn
(17,911 posts)It's a gross violation of Title II of the Civil Rights Act.
Maraya1969
(22,474 posts)judge that denied the treaty? Their face and name would be plastered all over the internet.
I think Native Americans should start taking their country back one little piece of land at a time.
efhmc
(14,725 posts)"Unbelievable. Wonder how many "white" hotels would still be open if they banned all whites because of the crimes that other whites committed there."
soldierant
(6,846 posts)but just on what's here, I fail to ee how getting shot constitutes "doing something wrong". Sounds more to me like blame the vidtim.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,295 posts)https://archive.ph/QxrKI
And the hotel owner, who really is a piece of work, described it as "Natives killing Natives" on social media - though the victim still appears to be alive.
Farmer-Rick
(10,151 posts)So a Native American happen to be both a victim and the perpetrator.
The owner is still a racist. Don't white people kill each other daily in the US? Just about every mass school shooting is white on white crime.
During that Charlottesville Nazi march and parade that TFG praised only one white person died. White on white crime seems to be OK even by white supremacists?
soldierant
(6,846 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,151 posts)What actually happened is not clear but the owner obviously thinks some Native American did something wrong. I didn't know what would describe it accurately. So a vague statement was better than hanging my hat on facts that weren't clear. It maybe they were the victim. I can't tell from the article.
But in the end the owner is a racist and what she is doing is illegal.
cntrfthrs
(15 posts)a Crow tribal member in montana strayed into wyoming elk hunting. After getting his elk, he was charged with poaching by wyoming game & fish. he took his case to the supreme court who ruled although the reservation was diminished, tribal treaty rights were not which meant treaty rights are just as valid as the constitution and are not abrogated.
IronLionZion
(45,411 posts)or racists, white supremacists, Nazis, or insurrectionists.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Not enough white supremacy.
SallyHemmings
(1,821 posts)packman
(16,296 posts)frogmarch
(12,153 posts)from blackhillsvisitor.com:
That aside, Connie Uhre should be ashamed of herself, and I hope her hotel goes bust.
wnylib
(21,420 posts)in the language of their old enemies, the Ojibway.
The Sioux term has been used by non Natives to refer to culturally and linguistically related groups of Native people. So Sioux does not automatically mean Lakota. Two other related groups are Dakota and Nakota.
ShazzieB
(16,357 posts)From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Sioux_Nation
If you're just talking about the Lakota, it is indeed proper to use that term. However, this discrimination lawsuit is being brought against the owners of the Grand Gateway Hotel by the Great Sioux Nation, which includes and represents not just the Lakota, but all of the communities listed above: https://nativenewsonline.net/currents/grand-sioux-nation-issues-notice-of-trespass-against-owner-of-hotel-that-banned-native-americans
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)wnylib
(21,420 posts)that they use for themselves instead of the ones used by non Natives.
The Iroquois, for example, prefer their own name, Haudenosaunee.
And yet, the non Native names persist.
EDIT TO add:
If you go to the Seneca territory at Salamanca, NY, you will see a large water tower with the words "Seneca Nation of Indians" printed on it. Their website says "SNI" for "Seneca Nation of Indians." Their bingo hall is called "Seneca Bingo." They refer to their Salamanca casino as a Seneca gaming institution.
But their name for themselves is Onondowaga (People of the Great Hills).
Anyway, the point of my earlier post is that, even if Sioux was a correct name, it is not correct to assume that all people called Sioux are Lakota. The name, however incorrect, includes Dakota and Nakota, too, not only Lakota.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)that not all [Sioux] are Lakota. In Minnesota, they are the Dakota.
AverageOldGuy
(1,523 posts). . . was named Custer and he messed with them in June 1876.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)If they're in South Dakota they're Lakota.
Here in Minnesota they are Dakota.
Sylvarose
(210 posts)...so people like the Uhres don't take land and rights from real Americans.
(*Wanna bet Connie Uhre's heard and believed similar talking points...just didn't think it applied to her?*)
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)The next day, burn it to the ground!
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,410 posts)Duncan Grant
(8,262 posts)Thanks for sharing, that was great.
efhmc
(14,725 posts)I am sure other books reference this fact but that is the one I am familiar with.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)I looked into his books and they do look real interesting. Which book are you referencing?
I have three books lined up now so he will be on the list. Presently I am reading The Farmer's Lawyer. Which has sucked me in.
efhmc
(14,725 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,748 posts)I didn't even recognize him. Some might recall his history - https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2010/04/msnbcs_shuster_suspended_by_ne.html
Aside from that, am glad that Native American group invoked its rights because the "just comply" mantra becomes ludicrous when it is continually expected to only apply to certain demographics.
Trueblue1968
(17,203 posts)ShazzieB
(16,357 posts)It's in the o.p., but kinda buried:
There's no way they won't win the suit, because a private business denying service to members of a particular race is flat out illegal.
Joinfortmill
(14,410 posts)The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)Native Americans are buying their land back. They open casinos make money and buy the land.
Now that will make you smile.
txwhitedove
(3,928 posts)than you know, and we're all pissed at you and your stinky hotel. It's 2022, why haven't we grown? I was about 13 when told of my Cherokee blood, that I could join a tribe if I wished, but DON'T TALK ABOUT IT not even to grandma. Whoa! That was early 1960's.
onetexan
(13,035 posts)wnylib
(21,420 posts)that I heard years ago.
Tonto and the Lone Ranger are riding alone through Native country when a band of Natives comes upon them and surrounds them. The Lone Ranger looks at Tonto and says, "Well my friend, looks like the end for us."
Tonto looks at the warriors who are angry about the tresspassing and says, "What do you mean 'us,' white man?"
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)WTF is wrong with people????
LakeArenal
(28,813 posts)Or is it just folks who look Native American. Or with names like Whitefeather
turbinetree
(24,688 posts)after all it is Očhethi akowiŋ Oyáte land ..... and all of the intruders can leave along with your Manifest Destiny BS ...... starting at the Gateway Hotel....maybe someone should send her and her bunch a copy of the treaty....or better yet send her and her bunch a treaty of 1851....
https://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/sioux-treaty
https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/horse-creek-treaty.htm
Hekate
(90,630 posts)Gateway Hotel is in our treaty land, he added.
By treaty and by law, we still own that land.
trof
(54,256 posts)2. Defecate in same.
BidenRocks
(826 posts)Since retirement and Covid, I am stuck in So. Cal.
Now I want to visit the parts of America I missed.
I need a "Green Book" so I don't end up in this type of brothel.
I made Alaska and Hawaii. Never the Dakotas or Montana.
If I end up in a GOQP bar I could end up dead.
God Bless America! Yeah, right!
I support the cause!
drmeow
(5,017 posts)the already morally bankrupt Uhres
AverageOldGuy
(1,523 posts). . . about the Lakota Sioux, a guy named Custer, and the Battle of the Greasy Grass.
paleotn
(17,911 posts)niyad
(113,232 posts)niyad
(113,232 posts)there.
malthaussen
(17,184 posts)Build your piece of trash right on their treaty land, preferably close to or on a sacred site, so every day they can see they are subjugated. Maybe I just think too poorly of my fellow humans.
At any rate, it would seem this time the plan blew up in their face, if that was it.
-- Mal