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https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/30/opinions/garland-trump-hunter-biden-laptop-obeidallah/index.html(CNN) "Attorney General Garland, do your job -- so that we can do ours," declared an exasperated Democratic Rep. Elaine Luria of Virginia on Monday night as part of her work as a member of the January 6 House select committee. Luria and others on the committee expressed frustration with Merrick Garland and the Department of Justice still not acting on the December 14, 2021, vote by the House recommending criminal charges against former Donald Trump White House chief of staff Mark Meadows for defying a congressional subpoena.
But the frustration many have with Garland goes far beyond simply the over three-month silence on Meadows. As I hear frequently from listeners to my SiriusXM show, the fact that we don't hear a peep about Garland investigating Trump for his attempted coup to overturn the 2020 election and potential crimes in connection with the January 6 attack on the Capitol is beyond frustrating. And those voices demanding Garland to act will be growing louder given a federal court decision Monday where the judge wrote that it was "more likely than not that" Trump committed crimes given his efforts to prevent the certification of Joe Biden's victory.
While the focus of this case was a request by Trump's former lawyer John Eastman to withhold certain documents requested by the January 6 committee based on claims they are protected by attorney-client privilege, US District Court Judge David Carter laid out a damning case against Trump for his conduct surrounding January 6 -- including potential crime.
As the judge wrote, Trump and his lawyer had "launched a campaign to overturn a democratic election, an action unprecedented in American history," adding, "it was a coup in search of a legal theory." And in a bone-chilling passage, the judge explained that if Trump and Eastman's "plan had worked, it would have permanently ended the peaceful transition of power, undermining American democracy and the Constitution."
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dem4decades
(11,269 posts)Emile
(22,487 posts)dem4decades
(11,269 posts)That's why there's a double secret DOJ investigation into Trump.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts).. when everyone who was thinking somethings not right with the DOJ was screaming a GJ was the first thing that should've been started last year.
Garland is too worried about looking partisan vs doing his jon
FBaggins
(26,721 posts)We heard yesterday that an investigation was "picking up steam" in recent months with testimony from multiple witnesses and that it was part of an investigation dating back four years.
The laptop that Rudy tried to push into the limelight during the election is not mentioned.
Some of the reporting (WaPost) is based on some emails supposedly from the laptop, but the DOJ information doesn't include that.
Emile
(22,487 posts)gab13by13
(21,264 posts)Fiendish Thingy
(15,548 posts)People briefed on the matter is the vaguest of identifiers, and could be anyone, not just DOJ staff. Could be attorneys for witnesses who have been called, could be a grand juror violating their oath to secrecy, could be anyone who received information on the investigation.
As always, lack of public information about January 6 investigations is not evidence of inaction or dereliction of duty by the DOJ.
gab13by13
(21,264 posts)I know that for a fact.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,548 posts)WaPo says otherwise:
https://apple.news/A9SUrH9RxR-2LVFmtYsZtmg
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Oh wait, I just realized the missing 7 hours of call logs from Jan 6 must be on Hunter Bidens laptop, right?
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Fiendish Thingy
(15,548 posts)Both have been confirmed (ok, not for Trump individually, but as a member of the coup architects)
KS Toronado
(17,148 posts)Read the link also, no mention of Hunter's laptop. I remember back when the laptop story broke an OP about
it which pointed to Rs being involved in manufacturing evidence (the laptop) to use against the Bidens because
of the 2020 election. Is this laptop story just another reQublicOn "BIG LIE" they are going to beat to death
for all the votes it's worth?
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)uponit7771
(90,301 posts)Scrivener7
(50,911 posts)except they talk about this and the investigation into the stolen documents and lots of other investigations.
There was even a thread here yesterday by someone who declared that the absolute lack of evidence that there is an ongoing investigation into the coup is PROOF that there is an ongoing investigation into the coup. Wrap your head around that one. And the reasoning is that the DOJ NEVER talks about ongoing investigations.
Except these ones. They talk freely about these ones. And lots of others.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)... iota of probable cause to even investigate that has not derived from MAGA Media.
I'm ... this is hurtful but Garland is interested in not seeming partisan vs doing his job
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)We are like Charlie Brown with the Football. We trusted Mueller and now Garland. Comey leaked an investigation into Clinton days before the election, still hiding the investigation into Trump, which assisted Putin in putting Trump in Office.
We now have Garland leaking an investigation into Biden's son, while Trump continues business as usual and the January 6th committee remains swaying in the wind.
I can only assume that the attack on our democracy includes those who infiltrated the highest judicial branch, as well as every aspect of our government, including the DOJ, state and federal law enforcement agencies, and state prosecutors.
dem4decades
(11,269 posts)Of Jeffrey Clarke's, nothing to see here, move along.
suegeo
(2,571 posts)The BCF outed a NOC (non official cover) Valerie Plame.
I hoped someone would be held accountable. At least I learned enough from that to NOT get my hopes up about accountability for white powerful males.
suegeo
(2,571 posts)Lawrence Walsh investigated those crimes. Nobody(?) was held responsible. And GHWB was into those crimes up to his eyeballs. He pardons people on the way out and escapes being held responsible for his crimes. The white guys get away with a lot . Above the law, it seems
kacekwl
(7,013 posts)Nothing about 7 hours of missing phone records. Nothing about the calls for justice Thomas to resign or recuse. Nothing about trump asking for dirt on Biden from Putin. Nothing about J6 investigation. Thank goodness we know about Hunter though. Thanks for keeping us up to speed Garland.
kairos12
(12,842 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Which is what the story is supposed to do to you, I suspect. For all you know, this is Russian disinformation.
Lonestarblue
(9,958 posts)Im not saying those are all DOJ leaks, but the investigation is in the news all the time. In contrast, for the first time today I saw an article that the DOJ had subpoenaed someone who might know something about the planning and financing of the coup attemptalmost 15 months after the event! Everyone here has a right to their own opinions, and I respect that because we all have different experiences forming our opinions. But I find this delay unacceptable, and its difficult not to conclude that Garland simply didnt want to be forced by the evidence to prosecute a former president and perhaps some very powerful people around Trump, like a Ginni Thomas.
I think there would be political fallout from prosecuting Trump, but not prosecuting him would be worse. It would be announcing to the world that the US legal system is just as corrupt as that in Russia where Putin tells the courts what to do. It would say that our justice system excuses the crimes of the rich and powerful while locking up poor people for misdemeanors. And that would be a huge slam against democracy and what it stands for around the world.
I truly hope Im wrong about Garland, but when members of the January 6 Committee are begging him to enforce the criminal complaint against Mark Meadows so they can do their jobs, something is wrong.
Midnight Writer
(21,712 posts)I find some of the accounts about the laptop, etc., to be hard to swallow.
heckles65
(547 posts)When you have this job, you hear from people who really want to make a good effort to defend themselves from state charges. You also meet people who try to sell you on the bullshittiest of stories.
I had one person who claimed that he drove from the mid-Atlantic states to New England in a stolen rental car with a 14 year old girl to get a runaway daughter to come home.
The Hunter Biden laptop story ranks with that on the BS meter.
Omen78
(81 posts)Why would the DOJ invest the manpower and funding on an BS investigation into their Boss's son? That would be career ending and political suicide. If the story was BS, it would have died shortly after the laptop became public. Instead the story continues to grow with the DOJ confirming the investigation. I fear this story has legs and the rightwing media isn't going to let it die.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)... bullshit is where HB got money to pay a 45k tax lien (cause for someone with his money that's impossible to get :rolleyes: ) a gun that was legally thrown away and tax implications with no probable cause to investigate behind it besides ***LITERALLY*** what MAGA made up.
The fact the DOJ is in anyway involved with this makes me sick and I'm beyond disgusted with them.
Azathoth
(4,607 posts)Just fyi
Omen78
(81 posts)I haven't paid much attention to posts being hidden. I can understand hiding the story in the middle of the election season when it appears to be a hit piece. I don't understand the need for hiding information that, at this point, is news being confirmed on both right and left media. While I'm sure the measures are well intentioned, they run counter productive to being a well informed community. JMHO