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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDo Trump's loyalties lie more with Russia or with America?
From everything we have seen in the last five or six years, we would have to say his loyalties lie with Russia. At least, with the leader of Russia, Vladimir Putin.
Is there really any doubt anymore?
He has stood with Putin every step of the way in Ukraine. He has done nothing to help Ukraine that was not forced by the Congress. He did nothing on his own.
It is fairly obvious that he has felt little affinity for America for a long time.
Perhaps he looks at himself more as an international businessman? Perhaps he looks at himself at another one of Putin's oligarchs? Perhaps he looks at himself as a businessman without national boundaries? Perhaps the only thing that is important to him is money?
He has shown very clearly that he does not consider himself an American.
treestar
(82,383 posts)So they would only lie with the US if they somehow aligned.
bottomofthehill
(8,329 posts)Exactly what I was thinking. With Trump.
Demovictory9
(32,448 posts)Trump only cares about Trump
efhmc
(14,725 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,278 posts)Both Impeachment hearings and the trial exposed his proclivities and we have it on record.
His followers do not give a damn about America either.
Vogon_Glory
(9,117 posts)MAGA crowd, the kindest thing I can say is that they are severely delusional. I find it incredible that most of the foam-at-the-mouth, liberal-hating reactionaries are impervious to the mountains of evidence that shows that their avatar has willingly consorted (and is still consorting) with a hostile foreign power against the interests of the USA. I never thought Id sound like a Bircher or other reactionaries of my youth, but This. Behavior. Is. Treason.
gab13by13
(21,304 posts)I believe that Putin owns Trump, has dirt on Trump.
Trump worked against the interests of the US by shunning our allies and bolstering our foes. No doubt that in a 2nd term, Trump would have gotten out of NATO.
Trump has no allegiance to the US, but does have allegiance to Putin.
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)MineralMan
(146,286 posts)gab13by13
(21,304 posts)when has Trump ever gone against Putin? He even told the world in Helsinki that he believed Putin over his own intelligence agencies.
ck4829
(35,045 posts)This is just embarrassing and Republicans should be embarrassed. This is a disgrace, Trump just took some "dirt" and threw it at the symbols America stands for.
Botany
(70,490 posts)They have the kompromat and his debts on him.
Wingus Dingus
(8,052 posts)Russia gave him tons of money and has dirt on him. It's really that simple. He doesn't give a shit about anything Putin does, and he doesn't give a shit about America--there's zero internal conflict within him. That's how sociopaths and narcissists operate.
gab13by13
(21,304 posts)Trump doesn't give a shit about what Putin does because he can't, he can't cut the strings that Putin is pulling.
Gore1FL
(21,127 posts)Trump is pro-Trump. Anything else is a matter of convenience or a necessity to achieve putting himself first.
gab13by13
(21,304 posts)Trump is loyal to Putin, not to the US, not to Ivanka, Melania, Jared, only to himself and Putin.
LAS14
(13,783 posts)world wide wally
(21,740 posts)1) Trump
2) Trump's Money
ananda
(28,858 posts)Derp