Is it not just this simple?

[Atticus]

If you still really believe the 2020 election was stolen, you are an idiot.

If you don't really believe it was stolen, but keep SAYING that it was, you are a despicable political whore.

Either way, I don't want to breathe the same air as you.

[underpants]

1. Just the POTUS part of the 2020 election

not any of the other races….which used the same ballots, machinery, personnel, and processes.

We still have an idiot here in Virginia (in the state Senate) who is calling for a full forensic audit of the POTUS part of 2020. Biden win by 10%. The state flipped to Obama in 2008 and hasn’t turned back except for Youngkin. Youngkin won by about 3% one year later but that election is fine.

[TlalocW]

2. My argument

You can either take the position and provide proof that part of the "big steal" involved a cabal of republican governors, republican state lawmakers, republican judges at all levels (some appointed by TFG) including the SCOTUS (some appointed by TFG), and all the republicans who ran multiple state audits came together to deny re-election to one of their own, or you can just admit you're butthurt that an unpopular president who failed America didn't win.

TlalocW

[William Seger]

3. And if you don't know WHY TFG lost...

... you need better news sources.

[Ohioboy]

4. Any Congress Criters that believe the election was stolen need to give up their seats

especially if they won their seat during the 2020 election.

[llashram]

5. yep

I prefer fresh air, not the putrid, disgusting RW generated air from constant BS...

[Traildogbob]

6. Why I will keep double masking

I hate the smell of putrid rotting brains that just sit out in the sun and are never used. Like road kill in July. That’s what I tell those that bring up, why you masking?

[Evolve Dammit]

7. I like it! Great answer.

[PaulRevere08]

8. Rubes and Rubles. That's all that other party is about.

[DFW]

9. Wise move with the same air

People like that tend to be anti-vaxxers anyway--not good air to begin with!

[uponit7771]

10. K&R,

[SmallFry]

11. "If you still really believe the 2020 election was stolen, you are an idiot."

I don't think that is accurate. I struggle to call people stupid for believing in stupid things when they are given information that leads them to their opinion. I would be more likely to call them pawns, or the like. That often isn't equitable to intelligence.

"If you don't really believe it was stolen, but keep SAYING that it was, you are a despicable political whore."

That's where it's at. I believe you might have been a little polite in your description of them.

[Atticus]

12. You call them "pawns" if you want. I did not call the 2016 Trump voters stupid, but after 6 years,

over 30,000 lies, two JUSTIFIED impeachments and the pussy grabbing, they can hardly be called pawns if they still worship him. They either don't know what a monster he is--- "stupid" --- or they like that he's a monster but don't admit it---"whore".

Finally, these people equate "polite" with "weak and stupid" and most here are neither, which you may gather once you've been here more than a few hours.

[SmallFry]

14. I don't see where I brought....

The intelligence of the members on this board into question. I read for a bit before creating an account. I don’t go around joining websites I simply land on. I saw a sticker on a laptop in a library at UF that was just this places url. That was a long time ago. I’ve used this place as a news aggregator. It’s really neat what access you are given without a membership here. I’m not sure I’ll like posting. We will see. I’m not good at brevity(often sign of limited intelligence). I hope you don’t feel this post is questioning your intelligence. I promise that is not my intent.

The other part of that final point you put forward is that I don’t assess others based on their assessment of me. While I’ve never met anyone who has defined my politeness as stupidity, I’m sure they are out there. Also, from personal experience, not even close to everyone on my team to be polite. Some of my favorite friends and politicians are ones that have left politeness behind.

The binary thought put forward in your first paragraph is inaccurate. I know you and I can prove that together by coming up with the many other reasons that exist outside of the only two options you say exist. I’m that confident there. I’ll even say with the number of posts you have here that you have already put forward other possibilities.

I believe there are lots of ignorant Trump supporters out there. I also know a lot of silent Trump supporters who benefited from the Trump Tax Scam more than anyone knows. It’s not that they like he is a monster, as it’s hard to recognize that which one already is.

I’m not willing to label a group of people who I view as Republican collateral damage in their war to maintain oppressive socioeconomic policies as I do many other Trump supporters.

It’s the monsters who concern me most. More often than not they are a pretty intelligent group.

I also called plenty of the 2016 Trump voters stupid. That’s not on me. I watched his rallies. I watched the interviews. It changed me.

[pecosbob]

13. I do believe the 2000, 2004 and 2016 elections were stolen

I'll likely go to my grave believing it.