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Tommy Carcetti

(43,174 posts)
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:10 PM Mar 2022

So let me get this straight:

FEC levies a fine against the DNC and the 2016 Clinton Campaign for billing information regarding the Steele Dossier as "legal services" when it should have been billed as "opposition research" (i.e., a billing error):

"OH MY GOD, WE KNEW IT! THIS ABSOLUTELY PROVES WITHOUT A DOUBT THAT THE TRUMP-RUSSIA COLLUSION STORY WAS A COMPLETE HOAX/WITCH-HUNT/FAKE NEWS/REALLY TERRIBLE MEAN LIE AND HOW DARE THEY SLANDER DONALD TRUMP LIKE THAT!!!!!!!!!"


Meanwhile, that very same day...

In an interview, Donald Trump tells Vladimir Putin--fresh in the middle of a war where his army is slaughtering untold numbers of Ukrainian civilians--that he ought to release whatever dirt he claims to have on the Biden family since he's "not exactly a fan of our country":

"Come on, that's just Trump being Trump. Can't you give him a break already?"

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So let me get this straight: (Original Post) Tommy Carcetti Mar 2022 OP
You've got it straight. 2naSalit Mar 2022 #1
Our country is spiraling down the crapper. lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #2
Yep Cosmocat Mar 2022 #5
I wish I could disagree nt RevBrotherThomas Mar 2022 #9
It has been... RocRizzo55 Apr 2022 #19
K&R, DOJ is busy with Hunter Biden's laptop so Putin's Whore will have to wait. uponit7771 Mar 2022 #3
I am going to post my own thread if someone doesn't answer this right now: Baitball Blogger Mar 2022 #4
No, IOKIYAR lagomorph777 Mar 2022 #6
The origins of the Steele dossier weren't directly with any campaign. onenote Mar 2022 #7
But...but...but... hamsterjill Mar 2022 #8
Meanwhile, Individual One hasn't been charged forpaying for sex. I still want to know L. Coyote Mar 2022 #10
The statute of limitations has expired. gab13by13 Mar 2022 #12
Wonder who he meant..."not exactly a fan of our country" KS Toronado Mar 2022 #11
Oh he meant Putin. It was clear. Tommy Carcetti Apr 2022 #22
Nailed it. n/t TeamProg Mar 2022 #13
And Russia has obliged because their love their puppet trump LymphocyteLover Mar 2022 #14
He is asking a war criminal for help! The Jungle 1 Mar 2022 #15
Fine amounts: LeftInTX Mar 2022 #16
I'm not aware that anyone's talking up the FEC ruling. brooklynite Mar 2022 #17
I don't get it. The double standard is killing this country. Martin68 Mar 2022 #18
K&R ck4829 Apr 2022 #20
This has been going on since at least 1980. yardwork Apr 2022 #21
trump is a Putin chump llashram Apr 2022 #23
By Jove, I think you've got it! dchill Apr 2022 #24
I'm sure carrowsboy Apr 2022 #25

2naSalit

(86,536 posts)
1. You've got it straight.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:20 PM
Mar 2022

That is what it is.

Should be plain as day to anyone with two functioning brain cells.

Baitball Blogger

(46,700 posts)
4. I am going to post my own thread if someone doesn't answer this right now:
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:26 PM
Mar 2022

If it was the Clinton campaign's responsibility to log it as "opposition research", then it must have also been the responsibility of the Republican campaign that initially ordered the Steel dossier to do the same. Did they do it? And if not, were they also fined by the FEC?

onenote

(42,694 posts)
7. The origins of the Steele dossier weren't directly with any campaign.
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 03:33 PM
Mar 2022

The Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website funded by a major Republican donor, first hired Fusion to dig up damaging information about a number of Republican presidential candidates, including Trump. So I doubt there was any obligation for any campaign to report it since it wasn't done for or paid by those campaigns.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
10. Meanwhile, Individual One hasn't been charged forpaying for sex. I still want to know
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 04:44 PM
Mar 2022

if the illegal campaign reporting was written off as a tax deduction too!

LeftInTX

(25,258 posts)
16. Fine amounts:
Thu Mar 31, 2022, 05:58 PM
Mar 2022

The FEC, in its statement dated March 29, said the fine for the Clinton campaign was $8,000 and the fine for the DNC was $105,000.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/30/fec-dnc-clinton-campaign/

Campaigns and candidates frequently incur fines.
They just roll with the punches and pay the fine.

Apparently Marsha Blackburn had quite a few of them about 10-15 years ago. (read about them when I was googling her silly image consultant image last week)

Fines are way of maintaining records and keeping accounts honest. This really is not a big deal. It's not meant to cripple anyone. Just that if the situation arises again, the lesson is learned. Of course, huge fines and multiple violations can cripple a campaign.

Usually, I agree with you, but I think this not that big of a deal. I see it is as more of traffic ticket type violation than anything.


Campaigns in Texas get them from the Texas Ethics Commission all of the time, they just don't make the news.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
21. This has been going on since at least 1980.
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 08:22 AM
Apr 2022

The media are owned by sociopathic billionaires. They're not on our side. They're not on the side of peace, justice, and certainly not democracy.

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