Conor Lamb goes for the jugular...(PA-SEN-D)

[brooklynite]

Link to tweet

[mcar]

1. It does have to be addressed

[JohnSJ]

2. There are a significant number of people still undecided

[sheshe2]

5. If you can't stand for yourself in a debate...

Then you can't stand for your state or the American people.

[leftstreet]

3. This could backfire

Not smart to pretend there aren't a lot of racist voters out there - both D and R - who won't be turned off by this

[gab13by13]

11. You can't be elected mayor of Braddock if you are a racist.

Maybe John will show up if they hold the debate in Braddock, let the good people of Braddock come to the debate and lets see who they support.

[dpibel]

4. Conor Lamb goes full smear! (FIFY)

But I guess those who fear Fetterman's pretty solid progressive credentials, any port will do in a storm.

[SunImp]

7. Yep

While Fetterman has long said he didn’t know the man’s race, the incident was thrust back in the spotlight by his announcement Monday that he’s running for the U.S. Senate.

Fetterman was the mayor of Braddock when he said he heard gunshots not far from his home, then saw someone running from the area. Fetterman said he called the police, pursued the man, and said in a TV interview at the time that he confronted him with a gun to stop him from fleeing before police arrived. An officer who responded to reports of gunfire searched the man, Christopher Miyares, and found he was unarmed, according to a 2013 police report

.

https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/john-fetterman-2013-braddock-shotgun-incident-20210209.html

[Cha]

13. NO.. I; want ti know Why Fetterman won't

Debate Conor Lamb?

Link to tweet

💙💛

[Celerity]

20. the man, Christopher Miyares, has said he supports Fetterman for Senate, a fact Lamb left out

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16550435

[dpibel]

40. Are you totally sure

that repeating something makes it more truer?

Those of us who can read the English got what Lamb is claiming in the very first iteration.

Your repeating it is not actually argument.

[Budi]

44. It's a statement.

Pretty sure we have no rules on posting repeated statements.

I like it. I've actually read it several times already.

[Cha]

53. Mahalo, Budi.. I was talking

about Fetterman to different people and now it's about me?

That's called a Distraction.

💙💛

[uponit7771]

51. There are 4 debates, Fetterman is missing one of them we'll see

[Demsrule86]

84. cha that was worked out long ago...and Connor could have brought it up in the first debate.

Here is my issue with Connor Lamb...he is very much like Manchin and Sinema...he goes against the party as a house member...we need Manchin and Sinema but we don't need another one like them. I posted a local take on him on this thread. Another issue is this. Just like all the other candidates endorsed by The PA party in the past, I don't think he can win a statewide race. Fetterman was not Wolf's first VP. He ran against the first guy during the second term primary and beat a sitting Lieutenant Governor to become Wolf's running mate during the reelection. This was the only time such a thing has happened in my memory.

Here is a post where he addresses it...please consider he was in his second term as Mayor in a city that was 80% Black...Braddock. The year he ran after the incident, he won 75% of Democratic votes. I want a guy who can win and who can be trusted to back policy like BBB.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/09/us/politics/john-fetterman-gun-black-jogger.html

[Cha]

97. Sorry, We Disagree on this.. Conor

Lamb is NOT like Manchin & Sinema.

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

I'm not trying to change your mind, Dems.. just letting you know why I support Conor Lamb.

[Demsrule86]

103. He will be...he voted against us already...you know he voted for Trump's wall right?

Also, he never voted for Nancy Pelosi...voted for Joe Kennedy. There are other problematic votes like no stimulus for the undocumented and Trump's tax cuts...I am not trying to change your mind either. I just don't think people outside the area know who Lamb is. And I question whether he can win a general. I live in the area...I could almost walk to PA and we are in the news area. I used to live in PA also.

[Demsrule86]

104. But in the end I will support either and donate...can't vote as I am in Ohio.

We can agree to disagree...

[Cha]

107. Yes We Can!

Link to tweet

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[Demsrule86]

111. Fired up and ready to go...

[Cha]

114. 💕🤷‍♂️💕

💙💛

[Sugarcoated]

147. I'm a long time Pennsylvanian

and Lamb is cut from the same cloth as Manchin

[Cha]

151. NOW Endorsed Lamb after..

We carefully reviewed and interviewed any candidate who sought our endorsement (Fetterman did not participate in our process and Arkoosh dropped out before our final decision) and determined that Conor Lamb had a proven record and support for our issues.

https://thttps://democraticunderground.com/100216559383witter.com/TonyMoonbeam/status/1487165771201482754

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

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[Sugarcoated]

152. Fortunately Lamb won't win the primary

or PA would have another uglican Senator.

[lapucelle]

153. Conor Lamb is to the left of Jamaal Bowman.

Jamaal Bowman is a Moderate Liberal

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Conor Lamb is a Populist-Leaning Liberal

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https://www.ontheissues.org/default.htm

[Budi]

35. Progressive creds:

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Thanks for the endorsement!

[Celerity]

39. Nothing says 'progressive creds' like Lamb voting to make the Trump tax cuts perm, voting almost

70% of the time with Trump in the 115th Congress (2nd highest Trump score in the entire Dem Congressional delegation), and his twice voting against Pelosi for Speaker (and loading up his campaign adverts slagging her off).

Yep, I look at that and consider Liz Warren and Barbara Lee to be positively RW in comparison.

[Demsrule86]

92. Don't forget Lamb voted to fund Trump's wall, Trump's tax cuts and against stimulus money for the

undocumented...not very progressive by standards. He also voted against the legalization of Marijuana. He is not progressive.

[Celerity]

100. He also voted to deregulate Wall Street via a significant weakening of Dodd-Frank

Both U.S. Reps Conor Lamb and Keith Rothfus voted to weaken a Wall Street regulation

https://www.pghcitypaper.com/pittsburgh/rep-conor-lamb-votes-against-more-act-a-bill-to-decriminalize-marijuana-federally/Content?oid=18495240

Lamb and U.S. Rep. Keith Rothfus (R-Sewickley) will square off in November. The candidates differ on many topics, including starkly different views on organized labor and the government’s role in providing health care.

But in one area, they appear to be on the same page. On April 13, both Lamb and Rothfus voted to alter the Volcker Rule in the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform Act. This rule was established after the financial crisis of 2008, and prohibits banks from making risky investments with customers’ money.

The bill that cleared the U.S. House, the Volcker Rule Regulation Harmonization Act, would exempt banks with less than $10 billion in assets from the Volcker Rule. The bill passed by a vote of 300-104, and still needs to go through the U.S. Senate and be signed by President Donald Trump before it becomes law.

The rule’s namesake, Paul Volcker, criticized a similar bill in the U.S. Senate, and told the Washington Post in March that “plausibly small loopholes can be ‘gamed’ and exploited with unfortunate consequences,” if the rule change were to become law.

https://www.americanprogress.org/article/hollowing-volcker-rule/

[BlueLucy]

110. If it's a smear why won't Fetterman debate, explain, or defend himself? nt

[Demsrule86]

112. He has addressed it as a quick google will show you and the Black man involved is supporting him.

That is on this thread in fact.

[mcar]

131. Smear? Are you suggesting that Lamb is lying?

The reality of Fetterman chasing down a black man is well documented.

[dpibel]

135. He's at least testing truth's elasticity

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Mind reading Fetterman's alleged fear of debate (despite, as pointed out in this thread, that Fetterman debated this same Conor Lamb a couple weeks ago, when this 13-year-old incident was just as elephantine and just as in the room as it is now).

Claiming Fetterman won't talk about the incident. See post 27 in this thread for an example of...ummmm...Fetterman talking about the incident.

You see, there is a difference between a "well documented" incident and the innuendo being drawn from it. One is, as you say, the truth. The other is, at best, politics. And politics of an unsavory nature.

The very best smears have a basis in truth. It's just what happens after that.

[Deminpenn]

6. Desperate

and pathetic.

Does Lamb think voters, especially ones here in western PA, don't appreciate that Fetterman dedicated himself to turning around Braddock, one of the many beat down mill towns here?

[gab13by13]

8. Here we go again,

another reliving of the Hillary/Bernie primary.

So let me know if it is open season to bash Democratic Senatorial candidates, never mind, I won't participate, only liberal Democratic candidates are permitted to be bashed.

Let me just say this to the DNC who wants the moderate to be the nominee; you can't be a racist if the good people of Braddock elect you mayor.

Let me just finish with this; John Fetterman is going to win in a landslide, primary and general.

I can't wait to vote for Big John, sorry DNC.

[Doc Sportello]

38. I had heard his explanation before

It was believable and made sense to me. I don't know PA politics but this is the kind of smear the repubs use, so maybe in the long run it will be good to get it out there so voters in the general voters will be like "meh". I hope you are right about Fetterman winning.

[gab13by13]

9. Fuck this shit,

one more thing. The gun/jogger incident happened in 2013.

[Cha]

10. Conor Lamb talks Facts about

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Fetterman and that's called a "smear".

Link to tweet

💙💛

[gab13by13]

12. Sorry, the DNC backed the wrong horse.

I may vote for Big John 2 or 3 times.

Lamb said there is an elephant in the room, I take that to mean John is a racist, what a joke, the mayor of Braddock is a racist, give me a break.

DNC not telling me who to vote for, as a matter of fact, because of this thread, I am sending another donation to Big John, thanks for reminding me.

[Budi]

34. That's illegal.

"I may vote for Big John 2 or 3 times."

[Polybius]

87. Hopefully, he means twice this year (primary and general), and once in 2028

Or maybe he means three times this year if neither Fetterman or Lamb hit 50% and PA had a runoff system.

[Demsrule86]

93. Fetterman would make a great candidate after in 2028...after Biden.

[Budi]

36. I didn't take it to imply racisim, I understood it to mean vigilantism

The guy didn't even do what triggered the mayor to chase him into another district & held him at gunpoint.

That's quite a reaction to something that never even happened.

Of course it's fair to question, when judgement matters.

[Demsrule86]

94. He thought he heard gunfire...my Black neighbor came out with a gun after we heard gunfire...

He is an ex-Army guy. Is he a vigilante? And Fetterman won Braddock twice after that. Lamb is not progressive. He voted for Trump's wall and tax cuts...other stuff too. He thinks he is a maverick. If elected like Manchin and Sinema, he would be better than a Republican but like them, he could not be trusted to vote for progressive policy. And the term 'if elected' is important in that I don't see Lamb winning a general any more than Katie McGinty did.

[markpkessinger]

101. +1 n/t

[dsp3000]

43. DNC gave us pat toomey in 2016.

They backed Katie McGinty over joe Sestak who was a navy admiral. No offense but that cost the blue collar vote. Pa is all about image in elections. Fetterman has the image and the policies to win the blue collar vote here

[Budi]

45. If he has the image, then why would he worry about Lamb reminding voters of that ummm, "incident"

[dsp3000]

81. He doesn't need to worry about that incident, honestly. It's blown out of proportion.

[Demsrule86]

78. The PA Party has got it wrong for decades...it has been a long time since we won that seat.

I vote for Fetterman...and the guy involved is supporting Fetterman.

[Celerity]

24. Now you are trying to smear Fetterman with Gabbard comps? 10% in the polls Lamb is the desperate one

smdh

[PA Democrat]

14. So, today when polls show Lamb losing by more than 20 points, Lamb decides to

bring up this incident that occurred in January 2013?

Fetterman was on a debate stage with Conor Lamb on March 20th. Why didn't he raise the issue then?

You know the interesting thing about Fetterman and this is that he ran for mayor of Braddock and won TWICE after this occurred. The population of Braddock is almost 70% black.

I hope Fetterman addresses this once and for all, but I have to say I lost a LOT of respect for Conor Lamb with the timing and the implication of this smear.

[gab13by13]

15. The anti-Fetterman posts here are really anti-liberal.

You know what they say, you have to run a moderate to get elected. The DNC is upset because its chosen candidate is getting beat.

[PA Democrat]

21. The last PA Senate candidate chosen by the DNC (Katie McGinty) lost.

The DSCC dumped a half million dollars into McGinty's primary race in 2016 and she went on to lose to Pat Toomey.

[Celerity]

26. The DNC has not endorsed Lamb.

https://www.cityandstatepa.com/content/here-are-endorsements-pennsylvania-us-senate-race

John Fetterman, lieutenant governor

Organizations: NORML PAC, United Rural Democrats, Democratic Lieutenant Governors Association

Malcolm Kenyatta, state representative

Organizations: Collective PAC, One Pennsylvania, Working Families Party, Democracy for America, Victory Fund, Brand New Congress, the Chester City Democratic Party, Chester County Young Democrats, Philadelphia 1st Ward Democrats, Philadelphia 2nd Ward Democrats, Philadelphia 8th Ward Democrats, Philadelphia 18th Ward Democrats, Neighborhood Networks.

Conor Lamb, member of Congress

Organizations: The Philadelphia Democratic Party, The Pennsylvania State Democratic Committee’s Latino Caucus, The Steel City Stonewall Democrats, National Organization for Women PAC, Pittsburgh 14th Ward Independent Democratic Club.

[Budi]

31. Moderates aren't Liberal??!!

[betsuni]

57. Lately I've noticed the definition of liberal has changed.

Lane change.

[Budi]

32. The DNC isn't endorsing any of the 3 candidates.

Leave the DNC out of this.

[uponit7771]

50. +1, and are stupid

[Cha]

19. What Fetterman did was So Wrong..

It needs to be discussed.. no sweeping it away just because it was 2013.

Why the hell would he do that? And, Why won't he debate Conor Lamb on Sunday?

Link to tweet

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ETA.. "on Sunday? "

[PA Democrat]

22. He DID debate Lamb. On March 20th.

https://www.alleghenyfront.org/democrats-spar-over-climate-crisis-at-senate-debate-in-pittsburgh-pennsylvania/

[Celerity]

33. 3 better questions. Why has the man involved said he hopes Fetterman wins? Why did Lamb vote to

make the Trump individual tax cuts permanent?

Why did Lamb twice vote against Nancy Pelosi for speaker?

Lamb and two Dems now in the Senate, Sinema and Rosen, where the only 3 House Dems (all in the extremely problematic anti Pelosi Problems Solvers Caucus at the time as well) to vote to make the Trump tax cuts perm.


U.S. Reps. Conor Lamb and Keith Rothfus vote to extend GOP tax cuts for individuals

The proposed 'Tax Reform 2.0' would overwhelmingly benefit wealthy individuals and add trillions to the national debt.

https://www.pghcitypaper.com/pittsburgh/us-reps-conor-lamb-and-keith-rothfus-vote-to-extend-gop-tax-cuts-for-individuals/Content?oid=11083357

When Republicans in Congress passed a massive tax-cut bill in 2017, it drew widespread criticism, particularly the fact that the tax cuts were permanent for corporations, but temporary for individuals.

Now with the passage of H.R. 6760, aka "Tax Reform 2.0," those temporary cuts for individuals are one step closer to becoming permanent. In addition to extending the reduced individual tax rates past 2025, the proposal would also double the Child Tax Credit and restore cuts to estate-tax filings of about 5,000 of the richest American families.

And two local representatives, U.S. Rep. Conor Lamb (D-Mount Lebanon) and Keith Rothfus (R-Sewickley), backed the bill. It passed 220-191. Lamb was one of only three Democrats to back the bill.

https://clerk.house.gov/evs/2018/roll414.xml








Conor Lamb upholds promise not to vote Nancy Pelosi as speaker (2019)

https://triblive.com/local/pittsburgh-allegheny/rep-conor-lamb-doesnt-vote-pelosi-for-speaker/

Democratic Congressman Conor Lamb kept a campaign promise Thursday by not voting for Nancy Pelosi for speaker of the House. Even without Lamb’s vote, Pelosi secured enough support to reclaim the speaker gavel.

Lamb, who won his first full term in Congress in November by beating Keith Rothfus in the new 17th Congressional District, had said throughout his campaigns that he would not vote for the longtime California Democrat.


Lamb Votes Against Pelosi for Speaker (2021)

https://www.politicspa.com/lamb-votes-against-pelosi-for-speaker/96985/

For the second session in a row, Rep. Conor Lamb voted someone other than Nancy Pelosi for House Speaker.

He was the only member of the Pennsylvania congressional delegation not to support their respective party’s candidate for Speaker.

Instead Lamb (D-Allegheny) voted for Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY), a colleague seen as having a bright future in House leadership. In 2019, Lamb voted for former Rep. Patrick Kennedy III. In both cases, he was one of just a handful of Pelosi defectors.

His vote was watched closely thanks to a signature campaign promise during his 2018 special election bid. He ran ads touting his opposition to Pelosi throughout the campaign.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

70. I remember Nina Turner (another candidate supported by Justice Democrats) polling results

Nina was also up a great deal

[Demsrule86]

80. Someone here said he has presidential aspirations...well he just lost a primary vote from me

forever.

[11 Bravo]

108. If you base your vote on "someone said", you might think about sitting out Election Day.

[Demsrule86]

113. Honey, I never sit out election day...never. And time will tell...I doubt we have to worry about it

anyway as Fetterman is likely to be the candidate.

[Celerity]

133. I think you misread the post

I am pretty sure Demsrule86 meant that these attacks on Fetterman by Lamb and his social media supporters (which have been going on from some on twitter etc for years) are the reason they probably will not consider voting for Lamb in a POTUS primary if (as someone said) he runs for POTUS.

[Celerity]

16. Mr. 10% in the polls is getting desperate. Lamb also left out that the man, Christopher Miyares

(now in prison for an unrelated event) has said he hopes Fetterman wins.

Man John Fetterman confronted with a shotgun says that should not stymie his Senate bid

https://archive.ph/dd339

CHRIS BRENNAN
Philadelphia Inquirer / / STAFF WRITER

A man confronted in 2013 by a shotgun-wielding John Fetterman — then mayor of Braddock, now lieutenant governor and running for the U.S. Senate — claims Mr. Fetterman has "lied about everything" that happened that day.

But Christopher Miyares, writing from a state prison in Somerset County, also told The Inquirer that incident should not stop Mr. Fetterman from becoming a senator.

"Even with everything I said, it is inhumane to believe one mistake should define a man's life," Miyares wrote in one of two letters sent to The Inquirer. "I hope he gets to be a Senator." (That last line was underlined three times.)

snip

“Telling the truth on an incident 10 years ago could cause him more harm than good,” Miyares wrote. “Mr. Fetterman and his family have done far more good than that one bad act or action and, as such, should not be defined by it.”

He signed that letter: “Gooo Fetterman.”

[PA Democrat]

17. FYI. Fetterman debated Lamb, Kenyatta and Khalil on March 20 in Pittsburgh.

https://www.alleghenyfront.org/democrats-spar-over-climate-crisis-at-senate-debate-in-pittsburgh-pennsylvania/

[gab13by13]

18. I'm still pissed,

I bet the people bashing Fetterman aren't even from Pa., which is fine, but not being from Pa. they don't know how popular Fetterman is here.

Run your Willie Horton ads, they aren't going to work.

[Budi]

46. Questioning an incident HE Created is not bashing.

But totally understandable that some would rather sweep it under the rug.

[Hoyt]

23. Not knowledgeable about PA politics. Is one more likely to win general election?

[Cosmocat]

61. IMO

I like Lamb, but Fetterman is an incredibly strong candidate and an UNABASHED, big throated progressive.

I've donated to him over the years and he has a very active campaign, been all over the state, even in smaller populated areas many times.

He has had open battles w Republicans over things like hanging pride flags off the balcony of the LT GOVs office.

He is the kind of full out progressive that we rarely see.

[Hoyt]

66. That's kind of the impression I get of Fetterman. I certainly like his persona. Thanks.

[msongs]

25. when you're behind.... nt

[PA Democrat]

27. John Fetterman addresses pulling gun on Black jogger in 2013

[peggysue2]

117. I think that pretty much answers the incident because . . .

it provides context to the moment--the violence he had already witnessed in the city and the fact that it occurred shortly after the Sandy Hook massacre. So, a runner dressed in black with a mask headed in the direction of the local elementary school after shots were fired? That's a reasonable explanation to intervene.

However, because it will come up not only during the primary but in a GE (with Republicans looking for any and all vulnerability), Fetterman will be required to answer this again and again in the strongest and most genuine way possible. Until voters are satisfied.

He certainly gives a credible explanation here, IMHO. But I'd also like to know if there are any poll breakdowns that give approval/nonapproval from the AA community. How do they view the event and Fetterman's explanation?

[SmallFry]

28. Ouch. Fair game.

I strongly dislike the act of someone grabbing their gun and chasing someone down.

[Elessar Zappa]

29. Good luck with that, Lamb.

Fetterman’s still gonna beat you.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

149. Time will tell

Link to tweet

[Budi]

30. Betting some wouldn't be as forgiving had Lamb done the dirty deed

Connor Lamb/US Senate
💙

Link to tweet

Link to tweet

Thanks for the endorsement!

[Cha]

55. Great Endorsement for Conor Lamb!

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Rt💕🤷‍♂️TY!

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[Polybius]

89. He doesn't look like a Democrat

He's Manchin 2 if he gets elected.

[Demsrule86]

95. That is it.

[JanMichael]

37. Dick move by lambchops. Maybe get him to 12% though.

Tactical genius.

[ZonkerHarris]

41. a down by 20 points in the poll hail mary that may actually help JohnF in the "T" parts of the state

that are Georgia-lite.
does not make me feel inspired about Lamb's choice making.

[bamagal62]

42. I love Fetterman

So I’m not sure what to think about this. but, to be honest, I know nothing about Conner Lamb. I also love Fetterman’s wife. Unfortunately, I no longer live in PA. If I did, I’d still vote for him.

[W_HAMILTON]

47. Not a good look for Lamb.

[uponit7771]

49. +1,

[uponit7771]

48. This is so fucked up, Fetterman is an ally and we can all see this. Jus, damn ...

[LetMyPeopleVote]

52. Connor Lamb is a far stronger candidate compared to Fetterman

[gab13by13]

58. Are you from Pa.?

I am, and I know who is the stronger candidate. John Fetterman would never run Willie Horton ads.

[Demsrule86]

115. I used to live in PA near Scanton. And I lived in Matamoras also.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

118. Has any African American or labor groups endorses Fetterman yet?

Link to tweet

[Demsrule86]

121. He was mayor of Braddock for two terms after the incident. And the guy involveded

supports his campaign. Fetterman is a progressive and has Black support. He always did. He can win the seat for us.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

132. You do realize that Fetterman got less than 600 votes in both races for mayor of this entity

See https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16551909

I do not know how big this village/town/entity is but, in my precinct, back before we had county wide voting we never had less that 1200 voters. I was the GOP election judge for a primary runoff (this was a favor to the election administrator) where there were 800 votes. just at this one precinct. I would not consider less than 600 general election votes to be strong endorsement.

I like the actual endorsement that Conor Lamb has

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[Demsrule86]

144. It was an off year municipal race...how about when he ran for Lieutenant governor...for

Wolf's second term...he beat a sitting lieutenant governor...never been done before. And Fetterman is progressive. Lamb is not. I am all for moderates by the way in red or purple districts. But I would always choose a progressive if he/she can win. Fetterman can win. We don't want a new maverick Democratic Senator who will vote against important policy. I am troubled by some of Lamb's votes which were mentioned on this thread. Of course, if Lamb is the candidate, he has my vote in the General...let me make that clear. I am talking about the primary. Sadly, I am in Ohio so I can't vote in PA, but I live within minutes of PA so I can and will work the primary for Fetterman as well as Tim Ryan in Ohio.

I am telling you, Lamb's smears won't work. Fetterman will be the candidate in the end. And Lamb should consider his political future. He wouldn't want to be seen as damaging the eventual Pennsylvania Senatorial candidate in a primary...might put a crimp in his future plans.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

146. It was a crowded field where the vote was split

Link to tweet

[Demsrule86]

96. Not in PA...I lived in PA and live very close in Ohio now...Lamb is more like Katie McGinty who

lost. He considers himself a maverick and will not be sure vote for us if elected. And Fetterman is way more likely to win.

[vercetti2021]

54. Fetterman is gonna win

Lamb just making himself look like a desperate man

[Samrob]

56. Please don't do this to each other, Dem candidates.

We really do not need to give anyone or any group an excuse to not vote. Fighting with each other does that if your primary candidate loses.
Just please talk about how your vision differs from others and what you will be offering in a positive way to voters. ENOUGH!

[gab13by13]

59. Tell that to the moderate Dems here,

they ran the Willie Horton ad, and brought the band to join in.

[betsuni]

60. Willie Horton ad was Republican and not real.

Did the Fetterman thing not happen? What has that got to do with "moderate Dems"?

[Demsrule86]

116. Yes he was real...the ad was of course sickening.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Horton

[gab13by13]

62. I just added to Big John's campaign, thanks for the reminder,

Fetterman has raised far and away the most money of any primary candidate on either side of the aisle, thanks to an online fundraising operation that has yielded robust small-dollar donations, primarily from within Pennsylvania.

Lamb, who entered the race after Fetterman, has been striving to catch up, leaning much more heavily on PACs and big donors to build a campaign war chest. Despite a list of high-profile endorsements from groups such as the American Federation of Teachers and SEIU Pa. State Council, Kenyatta lags far behind in fundraising.

2 liberals in the race and the moderate is getting blasted. Wife and I can't wait to vote for Fetterman. Fetterman brings enthusiasm to the ticket which is dearly needed in Pa. Can't wait to vote for Josh Shapiro either.

[Cosmocat]

63. I like Lamb but this party needs John Fetterman

I like Walker, too.

But Fetterman is a rare mix of super smart AND a progressive populist.

Whatever Lamb is trying gin up, and whatever happened in that incident, after Fetterman graduated from an ivy league school he set up a small non-profit working with troubled youth in the Hill district in Pittsburgh, which is an inpovershed,, majority black neighborhood.

Fetterman is a soft spoken but unabashed and relentless progressive dynamo. He pushed to get PA over the hump on Marijuana legalization and has many battles w Republicans in the general assembly including over his flying the pride flag from the balcony of the governor's office.

When he and his wife were elected they once again opened up the pool at the lt govs mansion to local children to use after that practice had long ago stopped.

He is the kind of bold, larger than life progressive figure that democrats DESPERATELY need.

[Deminpenn]

64. For younz non-Pennsylvanians,

you really have no idea about Braddock or how well Fetterman's choice to live there permanently, raise his family there and dedicate himself to helping revive the town plays here.

Havard graduate, left the comfortable life he could have had with the family business in York after deciding to focus on making a difference in people's lives. Lots of people talk that talk, but he's walking the walk.

Fetterman's a folk hero to everyone who lives in a similar town with similar problems.

And if Sean Meloy wins Lamb's old seat, we'll have two progressive Dems in Congress.

[PA Democrat]

65. This "younzer" agrees.

I've lived in SW PA my entire life and trace my roots to one of those decaying abandoned towns. I have a lot of respect and admiration for John Fetterman for the work he has done in Braddock.

In addition, Fetterman's wife Giselle has an impressive resume of her own.

As First Lady of Braddock, Pennsylvania, Fetterman founded The Braddock Free Store, a non-profit organization that provides local lower-income families with toys, diapers, baby formula, clothing, household items, and furniture.[4][6] The organization serves close to 1,600 families per month.[4][9] She started the Braddock Bench Project, focused on adding benches to local bus stops.[4]

In 2015 Fetterman co-founded 412 Food Rescue, a non-profit organization focused on eliminating food insecurity and providing nutritional resources to families in need.[4][10] The organization redistributed 2.5 million pounds of food in its first two years.[6] She launched the Positive Parking Signs Project, a local initiative installing signs around local communities with sayings like "Follow Your Dreams" and "More Hugs Needed".[4] Fetterman founded For Good PGH in 2017, a non-profit that advocates for diversity and inclusion, which brought the Free Store 15104 under its brand in 2019.[11][12] For Good's largest initiative, is The Hollander Project, a business incubator for women entrepreneurs.[13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gisele_Barreto_Fetterman

[Deminpenn]

71. Outsiders really have no idea how

Important initiatives like this are in W/SW Pa.

Went to Hillary's Pgh stop the day after she won the nomination in 2016. Fetterman spoke. So did Mark Cuban. He was great, called Trump a jagoff! 😄 On that scale Lamb's tweet is 5 jagoffs.

[Celerity]

72. Interesting regional slang, I had to Google it

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yinzer

Yinzer is a 20th-century term playing on the Pittsburghese second-person plural vernacular "yinz." The word is used among people who identify themselves with the city of Pittsburgh and its traditions.

History

"Yinzer" (or "Yunzer" ) was historically used to identify the typical blue-collar people from the Pittsburgh region who often spoke with a heavy Pittsburghese accent. The term stems from the word yinz (or yunz), a second-person plural pronoun, brought to the area by early Scots-Irish immigrants. Over time, yinzer has been used by many Pittsburgh residents to self-identify, even if they don't speak with a thick accent.

The concept and use of the word gained popularity in the 21st century as the area's population loss slowed, and the city became a hub for revitalization. As the city gained note as a desirable place to live, more outsiders have moved or returned to the Pittsburgh metropolitan area. The term has taken on a slight pejorative connotation to identify someone who, for better or worse, is either a lifelong Pittsburgher, or says a phrase or commits an act that could be identified as something a stereotypical Pittsburgher might do.

[Deminpenn]

74. Yunz is the original

It's what I heard growing up. Yinz is more recent and derogatory imo.

[Celerity]

85. My knowledge of Pittsburgh-specific linguistics could fit in a thimble, so I defer to you!

[Deminpenn]

105. First time I said

"gumband" to my co workers in SE Pa, they had no idea I was asking for rubber bands.

[Celerity]

106. I had the same thing happen at my US uni when I came running in late for class and said 'Damn I

almost fell down the apples running for class!'

Apples is London (East End Cockney in origin that is now nationalised) rhyming slang for stairs.

Apples and pears.

[blue neen]

67. "Going for the jugular"?

I don't think so. This may actually hurt Conor Lamb, rather than help him.

[Celerity]

136. yes but a less flowery title might not generate the same amount of eyeballs for max

[ananda]

68. If I were in PA I would vote for Fetterman.

Lamb sounds like a Joe Manchin wannabe type.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

69. Let's discuss Fetterman's electoral history

Fetterman has not really been tested in the real world

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Fetterman won in 2018 because Wolf was such a strong candidate.

[Deminpenn]

75. For context, Biden got 784 votes

total in Braddock's 3 wards in 2020, a high turnout presidential election year.

[lagomorph777]

91. One thing I'll give Lamb supporters.

They sure love to repeat stuff. Over and over and over and over and over again. Very odd and disturbing behavior.

[Demsrule86]

98. Fetterman beat a sitting Lieutenant governor to become Governors Wolf's Lieutenant

Governor during Wolf's second term...that was a first for PA...Lamb barely won his district. And he has voted against Democratic policy. Fetterman ran in a statewide race with Wolf and won.

[Cha]

102. Wow.. Tiff is really into it.. TY

for posting, LMPV.

Link to tweet

💙💛

[OnDoutside]

109. That's a ridiculous take. He was part of the Dem ticket in 2018 that won by 17 points statewide !

Looking over his electoral history, he's done really well in almost all of his races, including getting 20% in his first Senatorial run, with not a lot of money behind him.

If you want to go down that road, Lamb's numbers are getting worse in his congressional races, squeaking by Sean Parnell last time out, and he's never even participated in a statewide race, victory or otherwise.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

119. You do realize that voters vote mainly for the top of the ticket

[OnDoutside]

120. Of course, but they weren't so repulsed by the thought of Fetterman

that they stayed at home. That nonsense Twitter thread is insinuating that not only did he not contribute anything positive, he was a negative in the statewide election, and there's no evidence to show that. Meanwhile, Lamb has done nothing at a statewide level and barely won his last election.

[brooklynite]

129. There tends to be a difference in voter attitudes between Federal and State offices.

See North Carolina, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana.....

[AntivaxHunters]

73. I don't know about you all

but I don't think we need any pro-gun Democrats in the year 2022.
Just saying.
I can't get behind someone who's running in a Dem primary who made one of their campaign stops a gun show.
Yes, you read that correctly. A gun show for a campaign stop.

Also, "Lamb Said New Gun Laws Aren’t the Answer to Stopping Mass Shootings".
This is a "YIKES!" moment....

"Lamb was asked about his gun positions after the Florida High School shooting plunged the “gun conversation” right into the center of the nation’s public debate. On February 16, he told TribLive.com “that new gun laws aren’t the answer to preventing more mass shootings like the one at a Florida high school.” He made the comments the same week as the school shooting.

The newspaper further reported that “Lamb said changing individual laws — such as a proposed ban on high-capacity ammunition magazines — isn’t the place to start addressing gun violence.”

https://heavy.com/news/2018/03/conor-lamb-guns-gun-control-position/


Fetterman has my full support who's policies are pro-worker and pro-poor people.

[Demsrule86]

83. Lamb considers himself a 'maverick' IMHO and we very likely would end up with another

Sinema or Manchin like senator...and while we need both Sinema and Manchin, we don't need another one.
https://pittnews.com/article/166601/opinions/opinion-conor-lamb-cant-be-trusted-as-pas-next-senator/

"Rep. Conor Lamb is usually described in a way that alludes to his centrist chops — moderate, Blue Dog and, my favorite, “a fine young normal white fellow.”

He loves to live up to these descriptors, often making a scene out of his pragmatism and willingness to break with party orthodoxy. I mean, the guy “still loves to shoot,” like any ordinary red-blooded American.

"His brief tenure in the House of Representatives representing Pennsylvania’s 17th Congressional District has yielded indefensible votes — real gems such as voting to fund a border wall, prevent families with an undocumented parent from receiving stimulus checks and oppose marijuana decriminalization.

He loves to live up to these descriptors, often making a scene out of his pragmatism and willingness to break with party orthodoxy. I mean, the guy “still loves to shoot,” like any ordinary red-blooded American."

[Happy Hoosier]

77. Lamb won't win... this just damages the winner.

More circular firing squad nonsense.

[Celerity]

79. +1

[onetexan]

123. +1 K&R. I'm all for a good race but Dems smearing Dems is not cool. Save the smearing for the GOP

who deserve smearing - with their own crap. Lamb's smearing of Fetterman isn't OK w me, Biden endorsement or not. Fetterman has been an excellent Lieut Gov'r for PA and a good leader. We need more like him.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

148. Time will tell

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[Polybius]

86. Easy to act tough from a distance to a guy who's 6'9

He wouldn't talk like that alone in a room with Fetterman.

[brooklynite]

88. Seriously? Anyone would be "afraid" of Fetterman because he's taller and "looks tough"?

Do you think we should cancel all upcoming debates because his Democratic opponents will be "afraid" to challenge him?

(nb: I'm 6'2" and I wasn't afraid to question him when we met).

Honestly, this is one reason I'm not thrilled with Fetterman: a lot of his support seems to come from the idea that he "looks" tough.

[Polybius]

90. Of course you weren't afraid

There was no way that Fetterman would hit someone who asked him a tough question. Nor will be ever do it on debate night, because it would be an instant loss (and arrest) for him.

That doesn't take away the fact though that "Lamb" is acting tough.

[Demsrule86]

99. He that is not a bad thing in PA....PA is not New York as I am sure you know.

I lived in PA for a number of years. Now I am in nearby Ohio.

[alphafemale]

122. Smells like Jill Stein and Putin

Trying to mortally wound the strongest candidate?

What could the motivation possibly be?

[BradAllison]

124. The motivation is almost always for the guy/gal doing it to win.

There are exceptions like Stein who never had a fucking chance and only wanted to sow chaos/discord by lying, but I'm sure Lamb wants to win and will do whatever he has to party be damned and what the end result is. Ego.

[alphafemale]

126. He may win the primary by doing this. And ensure the repug win.

Just as anyone promoting this nonsense is doing.

[Deminpenn]

127. No, jmho, but primary voters see through

this pitiful attempt at race-baiting. Not sure outsiders get that Fetterman is literally a legend in the state, first for performing same sex marriages before they were even legal in PA.

https://www.pittsburghmagazine.com/braddock-mayor-performs-first-gay-marriage-in-allegheny-county/

[BlueLucy]

125. I haven't paid too much attention to this race.

I'm glad I'm not voting in this race since I live in WA. I don't want another Manchin or another Ilhan Omar.

[Deminpenn]

128. Fetterman and Braddock

This is why Fetterman will win both the primary and the general election:

https://www.pittsburghmagazine.com/braddock-rising/

In western PA, we all know the story and have watched the ongoing revitalization of Braddock and the part Fetterman has played in it.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

134. You do realize that Fetterman got less than 600 votes in both races for mayor of this entity

See https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=16551909
I have been serving as an election judge when I am not in the voter protection war room. My youngest child has been an election jduge for over 12 years. In our precinct, we have had more 1600 election day voters and more than that number in vote by mail voters. This town is smaller than my precinct.

[Deminpenn]

138. As of 2019, Braddock pop was 1870

You can put your vote total talking point to bed .

FTR, Biden got 700something votes in Braddock in the high turnout 2020 election.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

139. So Biden got more votes in one election than Fetterman did in two elections

That amuses me

[Deminpenn]

140. Lol

Since you are a poll worker, you know the difference in turnout for presidential, midterms and odd year municipal elections.

[Rob H.]

130. Conservative Democrats punching left again, as usual

Glad to see people recognize it for what it is.

[Saboburns]

137. I'm for John Fetterman.

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Fettermen is the anti-racist. Educate yourself, he works for minorities and working folk who love him.

Fetterman has chops among all Pennsylvanians, who love the guy. John Fetterman is a top-notch Democrat, and a rising Democratic Party star.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

141. The debate is going on without Fetterman

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[Demsrule86]

143. He participated in the previoius debate...and Lamb can continue with this crap if he wants...but

it won't work. Thank God as Fetterman can win...has won statewide...Lamb is in the House...so who knows?

[LetMyPeopleVote]

145. I LOVE the SHADE of the 3rd podium!

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[LetMyPeopleVote]

142. Conor Lamb's Closing Statement...

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[LetMyPeopleVote]

150. Here are some interesting clips from the debate

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