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DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 12:36 AM Apr 2022

How Many Crimes Can Clarence Thomas Commit Before Something Is Done?

Judges are required by law to recuse themselves from anything they, or their spouses have a financial interest in.

That is the law.

Thomas has broken this law repeatedly.

Arrest him.

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How Many Crimes Can Clarence Thomas Commit Before Something Is Done? (Original Post) DanieRains Apr 2022 OP
alas, it's not considered criminal Skittles Apr 2022 #1
Failure to recuse qazplm135 Apr 2022 #2
no it's not the law for Supreme Court justices. drray23 Apr 2022 #3
What "something" would you suggest? The only remedy is... TreasonousBastard Apr 2022 #4
I Think The United State Can Sue Him For Not Recusing DanieRains Apr 2022 #5
Under what statute? Amishman Apr 2022 #9
No there isn't DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2022 #10
Again, MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #17
Think you are going to be disappointed. Plus it ain't just GOPers with financial conflicts. Hoyt Apr 2022 #6
Well... Mike Nelson Apr 2022 #7
67 votes DetroitLegalBeagle Apr 2022 #8
Thank you! Mike Nelson Apr 2022 #14
60? We don't even have 50. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2022 #19
You're advocating arresting someone who hasn't broken a law? Kaleva Apr 2022 #11
But we don't like him, see? That makes it okay. N/T Jedi Guy Apr 2022 #22
He got away with it before. Rincewind Apr 2022 #12
Because he didn't break any law. nt MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #18
So much disinformation in this thread. Theories of jurisprudence & law presented as if fact Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2022 #13
Another ? I have is how many has he committed already? Is every decision that he's participated in, SWBTATTReg Apr 2022 #15
What crime are you talking about? MarineCombatEngineer Apr 2022 #16
More than too many! 2naSalit Apr 2022 #20
Obstruction of justice is an actual crime. lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #23
From that perspective... 2naSalit Apr 2022 #24
This is not about recusal. This is about obstruction of justice. lagomorph777 Apr 2022 #21

drray23

(7,634 posts)
3. no it's not the law for Supreme Court justices.
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 12:48 AM
Apr 2022

It's up to them to decide to recuse . Even the chief Justice can't force them.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
4. What "something" would you suggest? The only remedy is...
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 12:57 AM
Apr 2022

impeachment, and we know how well that works.

Expanding the court would work eventually, as would term limits. But, neither is answering today's problem.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,924 posts)
10. No there isn't
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 05:23 AM
Apr 2022

SCOTUS Justices are not required to recuse themselves. They also have judicial immunity, which shields them from any lawsuit against them for any judicial actions or decisions they make.

Mike Nelson

(9,961 posts)
7. Well...
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 04:31 AM
Apr 2022

... we don't have the votes to impeach him. That's the consequence. We need 60 votes in the Senate. A good Judge would recuse if there was a question about conflict of interest... just the HINT of one! Clarence Thomas does not fall into that category.

Kaleva

(36,316 posts)
11. You're advocating arresting someone who hasn't broken a law?
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 05:24 AM
Apr 2022

Isn't that unlawful or at least morally and ethically bankrupt?

Rincewind

(1,203 posts)
12. He got away with it before.
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 05:38 AM
Apr 2022

2000, Bush v Gore. Ginny was was working for the W. Bush campaign, and was rumored to be under consideration for a position in any W. Bush administration. Bush being president = money for the Thomas'. He did not recuse, nothing happened to him.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,015 posts)
13. So much disinformation in this thread. Theories of jurisprudence & law presented as if fact
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 06:33 AM
Apr 2022

... and not as questions or with doubt. Including the OP.

As I understand it, refusal to recuse is not a criminal offense and there is no mechanism to enforce it.

Perhaps there is a mechanism within the judiciary itself. They are honor bound to adhere to their traditions, including recusal.

Can the judiciary eject one of their own? Eject a peer at any same level or below? I don't remember hearing of such a case. It'd be a gruesome precedent when politics are involved.

SWBTATTReg

(22,154 posts)
15. Another ? I have is how many has he committed already? Is every decision that he's participated in,
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 07:35 AM
Apr 2022

suspect? They do this when a rogue prosecutor or rogue police officer is ID'ed, and all of the cases they worked on, are subject to redo or being tossed out.

This is another reason why they should expand the Supreme Court, so if and when a situation like this very one occurs, the tainted 'vote' won't inadvertently affect what a normal, fully informed and not being unduly influenced Supreme Court would vote.

How many 4-5 or 5-4 votes have there been, where inappropriate influencing played a role?

2naSalit

(86,680 posts)
20. More than too many!
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 08:51 AM
Apr 2022

Although impropriety of one's conscience or lack of one is not an actual crime. Though I would argue that he is not acting in the best interests of the nation and there may be some crime involved in his indiscretion but I don't know what that would be at the moment.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
23. Obstruction of justice is an actual crime.
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 09:13 AM
Apr 2022

This is not some subtle matter of conscience. This is an attempted coverup.

2naSalit

(86,680 posts)
24. From that perspective...
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 09:30 AM
Apr 2022

I have to agree. And it is multi-faceted. Maybe that's how the deniability gains ground, there are so many moving parts.

(Check my time stamp, I get up too damned early and I can't always come up with a complete thought before coffee.)

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
21. This is not about recusal. This is about obstruction of justice.
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 08:57 AM
Apr 2022

Obstruction of justice is a felony, no matter who you are. Or we do not have the rule of law. Period.

Lots of posters talking about recusal being optional for SCROTUS - missing the point.
"Justice" Thomas committed the crime of obstruction of justice when he attempted to hide the evidence of his wife's crimes. He became an accessory after the fact (at a minimum).

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