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Demovictory9

(32,465 posts)
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 02:45 AM Apr 2022

Signs of a housing bubble are brewing, prices rising to point of "exuberance

https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/30/homes/us-housing-market-bubble/index.html



"Our evidence points to abnormal US housing market behavior for the first time since the boom of the early 2000s," the researchers wrote. "Reasons for concern are clear in certain economic indicators ... which show signs that 2021 house prices appear increasingly out of step with fundamentals."


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But this time, the economists said they are worried about a different scenario.

Just because home prices are rising wildly does not always mean housing is in a bubble. And there are lots of reasons why home prices have risen steadily over the past decade -- and shot up even more significantly in the past two years -- including supply and demand imbalances in the market, rising labor and construction costs and how high or low the interest rates are for a mortgage, the researchers pointed out.

But they said prices may be rising to a point they call "exuberance," in which prices become increasingly out of sync with the economic fundamentals underpinning the market.


One possible reason, they suggested, is that buyers may believe prices will continue to climb and fear they will miss out on snagging a lower price on a home now and get stuck paying more later.
This fear of missing out, or FOMO, effect can drive up prices and heighten expectations of higher prices ahead. That can create a self-fulfilling prophecy, researchers said, in which price growth can become exponential.


https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/30/homes/us-housing-market-bubble/index.html
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Signs of a housing bubble are brewing, prices rising to point of "exuberance (Original Post) Demovictory9 Apr 2022 OP
Um, they overlook those "starter" $1 million 2-bedroom houses are getting all-cash buyers PSPS Apr 2022 #1
That would be the corporations doing that! PortTack Apr 2022 #3
+1, same as last time uponit7771 Apr 2022 #9
And if it happens I hope the GD corporations buying up houses and driving prices even higher PortTack Apr 2022 #2
zillow already got its ass handed to it Demovictory9 Apr 2022 #4
Whoa !!! Didn't know about this. Do you think Zillow has change anything we go off Zillow ... uponit7771 Apr 2022 #10
That part of Zillow is ok MissB Apr 2022 #16
+1, uponit7771 Apr 2022 #18
Zillow closed its house flipping unit Demovictory9 Apr 2022 #19
Yes they did! Althou Zillow was planning on the continued rise in values so they could flip PortTack Apr 2022 #20
They need to study the impact of foreign investment in housing in the US. Samrob Apr 2022 #5
+1, Russia would love to buy up US houses to push up prices and dump them on banks ... uponit7771 Apr 2022 #11
They should actually investigate how they can build affordable housing stock exboyfil Apr 2022 #13
My stepson bought a townhouse in San Francisco several years ago secondwind Apr 2022 #6
Crazy, $5500 a month for rent - that's SF for you :-) n/t iluvtennis Apr 2022 #7
+1, wow and that's only ONE FLOOR !!! uponit7771 Apr 2022 #12
My mom just listed her house exboyfil Apr 2022 #8
Cool. Your mom should cash out as she needs the funds. I did it iluvtennis Apr 2022 #15
One of my neighbors just sold her house at auction. leftyladyfrommo Apr 2022 #14
I've noticed several homes in the last month MissB Apr 2022 #17
There is no supply! mnhtnbb Apr 2022 #21
It's insanity, I get letters offering 600,000+ for my 900 sq. ft. dump Coventina Apr 2022 #22
Houses are not staying on the market even a day Raftergirl Apr 2022 #23

PSPS

(13,605 posts)
1. Um, they overlook those "starter" $1 million 2-bedroom houses are getting all-cash buyers
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 02:54 AM
Apr 2022

These aren't people who need a mortgage. And they still get bidding wars.

PortTack

(32,783 posts)
2. And if it happens I hope the GD corporations buying up houses and driving prices even higher
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 02:55 AM
Apr 2022

Get their due comeuppance!

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
10. Whoa !!! Didn't know about this. Do you think Zillow has change anything we go off Zillow ...
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 06:21 AM
Apr 2022

... estimates all the time on our house

MissB

(15,810 posts)
16. That part of Zillow is ok
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 06:49 AM
Apr 2022

It’s the part that was buying and flipping houses that is done. They’ve stopped buying and flipping. Which is good for actual home buyers. And folks that want to remodel. Zillow was sucking the available air out of some markets.

PortTack

(32,783 posts)
20. Yes they did! Althou Zillow was planning on the continued rise in values so they could flip
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 05:37 PM
Apr 2022

These evil corporate jerks are buying to permanently rent, that is until the property is destroyed from lack of upkeep dragging property values in neighborhoods down overall. It’s really ugly

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
5. They need to study the impact of foreign investment in housing in the US.
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 04:05 AM
Apr 2022

Every recent immigrant I know (8 to be exact) 1 Asian, 4 Russians, 3 Croatians, purchased homes within months of arriving. I know them from the special Ed school my grandsons attend. I do not know them well enough to know how their homes were financed. All but two speak pretty good English. And all are very friendly. Among them they have 19 children. The homes they purchased seem to be in zones where their ethnicities are prevalent. I live in an area close to DC but on the Maryland side. One of the Russian girls was the star basketball player for the high school last year. They seem to all have MONEY. I am just wondering if this is happening all over the US and contributing the rash of over-priced, paper thin town homes and mini mansions springing up all over?

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
11. +1, Russia would love to buy up US houses to push up prices and dump them on banks ...
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 06:24 AM
Apr 2022

... causing 2009 again

exboyfil

(17,864 posts)
13. They should actually investigate how they can build affordable housing stock
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 06:25 AM
Apr 2022

with accompanying better rail service into metropolitan areas.

As far as foreign investment. Let them invest. Just shift the tax burden a bit to increase the value of the homestead exemption.

Sounds like good immigrants to me especially if they are living in their own homes instead of just owning a bunch of rental properties. So long as we are not reaching fifth column numbers and intent (is that what you are implying?) then I don't see a problem.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
6. My stepson bought a townhouse in San Francisco several years ago
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 04:53 AM
Apr 2022

for 1.2 million, fireplaces on each floor, back yard with beautiful Japanese maple, etc

It’s worth several times over now, he has rented the first floor for $5,500 a month, can you imagine.

exboyfil

(17,864 posts)
8. My mom just listed her house
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 06:19 AM
Apr 2022

Her final cash out as she moves into a retirement community.

She also lives on the Daytona barrier pennisula/island. I really do think it is time to cash out before the big one shows up.

My sister in law wants her to keep the house as a vacation destination for the family. My mom needs the cash for the rest of her life.

iluvtennis

(19,864 posts)
15. Cool. Your mom should cash out as she needs the funds. I did it
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 06:31 AM
Apr 2022

couple of years ago and downsized as kids are grown and gone.

leftyladyfrommo

(18,869 posts)
14. One of my neighbors just sold her house at auction.
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 06:26 AM
Apr 2022

It was a really cute house all fixed up.

I haven't seen anyone sell their house that way but it might be a way to get a good price without all the fees.
It sold right away.

MissB

(15,810 posts)
17. I've noticed several homes in the last month
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 06:52 AM
Apr 2022

in our little neighborhood that have sold without being listed. Usually there are 3-5 homes for sale at any one time. To have three of those homes sell without hitting the market is very unusual.

It also means it would be easy to sell my home if I wanted to.

mnhtnbb

(31,397 posts)
21. There is no supply!
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 05:51 PM
Apr 2022

The realtor we used when we moved to Chapel Hill in 2000 has his own office. We continued to use him--after the fire--and I looked at property with him in 2019 when I was thinking about buying. He has quite a few agents in his office and his website normally would have multiple pages of listings with those agents at this time of year. He has a grand total of three (3) listings on his website right now which are all under contract. I imagine there were multiple offers for each of them.

This is being repeated in desirable communities all over the country, which is part of the reason prices are being bid up. Owning a home is beneficial for many reasons, not the least of which is the ability to build equity instead of tossing money at rent every month.

Coventina

(27,129 posts)
22. It's insanity, I get letters offering 600,000+ for my 900 sq. ft. dump
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 05:55 PM
Apr 2022

I definitely have the shabbiest place on the block, because I just don't have time or money to do a lot of cosmetic stuff.
Plus, I confess to liking the "lived in" look. I'm not interested in being featured in Architectural Digest.

Plus, I'm the only one on the block who hasn't suffered property crime. Protective camouflage, haha!

I am so glad I am not a young person starting out.

Raftergirl

(1,287 posts)
23. Houses are not staying on the market even a day
Fri Apr 1, 2022, 06:16 PM
Apr 2022

in my town and I’m in a suburb of Albany NY. It’s been like this since the pandemic. There is very little undeveloped land left in my town and because of our excellent school district a house in my town is very much in demand. If I put my house on the market tomorrow it would be sold before the afternoon. But, I’m not going anywhere, we’ve completely remodeled the house into the perfect home for us, our mortgage is dirt cheap and we can age in place as it’s a ranch.

Kid just bought a pied a terre (460 sq Ft 1 bedroom) in Boston last weekend - sight unseen. Asking price was $349k but he paid over ask. He just bought a townhome in Salem last year, which has appreciated significantly since then, and he paid over ask on that one, too.

He is only 28 but makes very good money and able to put down 20% on both places. He planned to pay off his townhouse mortgage in 5 years but is ahead of schedule.

I’m sure eventually he will rent both out, but for now that is several years away.

I did tell him to buy his next place on the Cape so I have somewhere to go in the summer. 😉

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