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Italy says it's ready to guarantee Ukraine's neutrality (Original Post) highplainsdem Apr 2022 OP
If that is what Ukraine wants left-of-center2012 Apr 2022 #1
IF russia gets out without taking any more territory. pays for the damage they caused. bullimiami Apr 2022 #2
Interesting msfiddlestix Apr 2022 #3
The lesson is to strengthen NATO because that is the only thing stop empire Russia WA-03 Democrat Apr 2022 #4
A totally neutral Ukraine between Europe and Russia.... kentuck Apr 2022 #5
A neutral INTACT Ukraine, with unhindered trading policies, that is DFW Apr 2022 #6

bullimiami

(13,104 posts)
2. IF russia gets out without taking any more territory. pays for the damage they caused.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 08:47 AM
Apr 2022

gives to the families of those they murdered.

and makes promises that ukraine will be left alone.

then neutral is fine.

otherwise. if russia takes any more territory, if they interfere, if they dont pay up.
Join NATO.

msfiddlestix

(7,286 posts)
3. Interesting
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 08:47 AM
Apr 2022


Italy rarely appears on my radar as a country throwing their weight on geopolitical issues on this scale. Not saying they never have, just that I can't recall Italy making a stand such as this. Could be our press doesn't take notice, therefore I missed any occasion before.

Or our press has and I missed it.

But bravo!




WA-03 Democrat

(3,054 posts)
4. The lesson is to strengthen NATO because that is the only thing stop empire Russia
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 09:09 AM
Apr 2022

Giving Putin this gift was his goal before the war. I would like them any country that is Democratic to join NATO.

Mario Chamberlain- sit down.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
5. A totally neutral Ukraine between Europe and Russia....
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 09:10 AM
Apr 2022

...would be very good for the future security of Europe, in my opinion. Especially if Ukraine is capable of defending itself from further Russian aggression.

DFW

(54,437 posts)
6. A neutral INTACT Ukraine, with unhindered trading policies, that is
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 09:48 AM
Apr 2022

Not one neutered, with its port of Sevastopol and it's major industrialized areas occupied by an aggressively imperialist neighbor. Ironically enough, Russia's economy would also profit immensely from a neutral, active trading center on its western border. Some of the most properous areas of France, Italy, Germany and Austria are the ones on the border with neutral Switzerland.

As for Italy, if they can somehow convince the Russians that a NATO member is willing to guarantee Ukraine's neutrality, that's fine with me. However, since if it were Russia, I wouldn't give their motives a whiff of sincerity, I don't think the Russians would see this as anything other than us trying to have NATO on the Ukrainian-Russian border under another name.

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