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TFG Rally is going to be nuts-here is opening prayer (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 OP
In Jesus name-- let him satisfy a woman this time... TreasonousBastard Apr 2022 #1
No words! nt Samrob Apr 2022 #2
Let us know if he does have a meltdown... Hekate Apr 2022 #3
Jeff Fortenberry was covicted of lying to the FBI and concealing info LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #20
I'm almost 70 and have attended church all my life. badhair77 Apr 2022 #4
The majority of Christian voters cast their ballots for Trump in 2016. nt. Mariana Apr 2022 #5
Depends how you define "Christian." I'm surrounded by trumpers badhair77 Apr 2022 #7
Christians define themselves. Mariana Apr 2022 #11
Political Christians rather than Christians of faith. keithbvadu2 Apr 2022 #14
I'm not in any position to judge the veracity of their faith. Mariana Apr 2022 #26
Interesting tavernier Apr 2022 #40
Christ's teachings aren't exactly simple and straightforward. Mariana Apr 2022 #41
That is not neccesarily true...I am a Christian and have gone to a progressive church all my life Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #8
The majority of Christian voters cast their ballots for Trump in 2016. Mariana Apr 2022 #12
You see that is where you are wrong...those who worship Trump and call themselves Christian Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #31
I didn't attack you in any way. Mariana Apr 2022 #47
I have done no such thing...I have said Trumpers do not follow the teachings of Christ and thus Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #48
Well...the majority of white men and white women cast their votes for Trump as well... Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author shrike3 Apr 2022 #42
Black church ladies are among the best friends we have. shrike3 Apr 2022 #45
They are amazing women....the ones I have been privileged to get to know... and hard workers for Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #49
So did s majority of white women Kaleva Apr 2022 #23
Yes. Mariana Apr 2022 #27
And a majority of the vote TFG got in MI was from counties classified as urban or mostly urban Kaleva Apr 2022 #37
+1000 Demsrule86 Apr 2022 #32
Evangelical voters. milestogo Apr 2022 #28
Christian voters. Mariana Apr 2022 #29
This message was self-deleted by its author shrike3 Apr 2022 #43
The church I attend is almost exactly like yours. shrike3 Apr 2022 #44
Totally f**king insane. smirkymonkey Apr 2022 #6
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #16
If Donnie was cheated, why were McConnell, Graham, Retrograde Apr 2022 #9
Omg, what a scary, crazy man!! secondwind Apr 2022 #10
Woman at Trump rally today is asked why she loves Trump LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #13
"He's definitely honest about pussy grabbing. That's just how he shows respect" dalton99a Apr 2022 #15
Yep LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #17
"I won't forget how Washington took over the airport in 1775" struggle4progress Apr 2022 #22
"drumpf is the current president" and "Biden destroyed the country" are two pretty Takket Apr 2022 #18
Is it tonight? Everybody in NC is watching the game! yardwork Apr 2022 #19
Marching to Shibboleth struggle4progress Apr 2022 #21
God I love Firesign Threater. BlueIdaho Apr 2022 #38
TFG is upset at Jen Psaki LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #24
He really is letting the inmates out of the asylum. Initech Apr 2022 #25
Here is Trump apparently not knowing Jen Psaki's name LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #30
Bunch of lunatics! bif Apr 2022 #34
The women behind him remind me of the manson girls at the Spahn ranch in the film Hotler Apr 2022 #35
It's 2022. Trump LOST in 2020! If you're still going to Trump rallies...... you might just be in a cult LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #36
Fact-checking the biggest lies from Trump's fake news rally in Michigan LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #39
And they said he killed bin Laden SCantiGOP Apr 2022 #46

Hekate

(90,794 posts)
3. Let us know if he does have a meltdown...
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 06:58 PM
Apr 2022

The only problem is: given his usual behavior, how would we know?

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,558 posts)
20. Jeff Fortenberry was covicted of lying to the FBI and concealing info
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 10:00 PM
Apr 2022

TFg cannot comprehend that lying can be a crime


badhair77

(4,221 posts)
4. I'm almost 70 and have attended church all my life.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 07:31 PM
Apr 2022

Always a small town mainstream one, not a looney one on the fringe. All three were welcoming and emphasized helping the community. With all that time investment between the three congregations I have never heard a minister involved politics like this guy. I lost track of how many commandments he broke there. Unbelievable.

badhair77

(4,221 posts)
7. Depends how you define "Christian." I'm surrounded by trumpers
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 08:01 PM
Apr 2022

but I would not call them true Christians even though they go to some kind of church. But you’re correct they call themselves that and they voted for the bastard. Some honestly think he’s a man of faith.

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
11. Christians define themselves.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 09:04 PM
Apr 2022

I'm certainly not in any position to determine the veracity of their faith, so I take them at their word.

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
26. I'm not in any position to judge the veracity of their faith.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 11:39 PM
Apr 2022

That job is way above my pay grade. If they identify as Christians, I take their word for it.

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
41. Christ's teachings aren't exactly simple and straightforward.
Sun Apr 3, 2022, 09:17 PM
Apr 2022

It's so complicated that there are hundreds of denominations of Christianity in the US alone, plus countless "nondenominational" and "independent" churches, and who knows how many individual practitioners following their own unique ideas of Christ's teachings. It's not for me to sort out who's doing Christianity right and who's doing it wrong.

Demsrule86

(68,675 posts)
8. That is not neccesarily true...I am a Christian and have gone to a progressive church all my life
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 08:13 PM
Apr 2022

We do much good in the community. Trump voters worship Trump not God...

Demsrule86

(68,675 posts)
31. You see that is where you are wrong...those who worship Trump and call themselves Christian
Sun Apr 3, 2022, 10:00 AM
Apr 2022

are not Christians... voted for Trump. You can't vote for Trump and follow the teachings of Christ. Everyone has the right to their opinions concerning religion. Mine is different than yours which is fine with me. However, I would appreciate it if you wouldn't attack me or anyone else on matters of religion.

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
47. I didn't attack you in any way.
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 11:30 AM
Apr 2022
I would appreciate it if you wouldn't attack me or anyone else on matters of religion.


You have declared that people who vote differently than you aren't Christians. Seems like you are attacking people on matters of religion in this thread, not me.

Demsrule86

(68,675 posts)
48. I have done no such thing...I have said Trumpers do not follow the teachings of Christ and thus
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 12:45 PM
Apr 2022

can not be considered Christian. And the idea that a certain percentage of Christians voted for Trump is tarring all Christians with the same brush. I have seen the same sort of thing done with white women...and my response was well more than a few voted for our side. But I must say I tire of these sort of threads. And it feels like an attack despite what you say here. In any case, I will simply trash such threads in the future.

Demsrule86

(68,675 posts)
33. Well...the majority of white men and white women cast their votes for Trump as well...
Sun Apr 3, 2022, 10:04 AM
Apr 2022

Think about that...and consider if we reach out and cut those numbers down just a bit in the midterms, we could win. We might not win every district but lowering the GOP numbers will help us win statewide elections...what won't help is attacking all Christians or anyone else.

And you should stop...it is divisive and won't encourage people to vote for us. I would add that here in Cleveland big part of GOTV are Black church ladies and their husbands and/or boyfriends. They would be enraged by your post. They are true allies and without them, we will lose multiple elections.

Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #33)

Demsrule86

(68,675 posts)
49. They are amazing women....the ones I have been privileged to get to know... and hard workers for
Mon Apr 4, 2022, 12:48 PM
Apr 2022

our party.

Kaleva

(36,343 posts)
23. So did s majority of white women
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 10:25 PM
Apr 2022

And to a greater extent, white men. A majority of Christian Blacks voted for Biden

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
27. Yes.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 11:46 PM
Apr 2022

The majority of men voted for Trump.
The majority of white people voted for Trump.
The majority of old people voted for Trump.
The majority of Southerners voted for Trump.
The majority of rural residents voted for Trump.
The majority of Christians voted for Trump.

And?

Kaleva

(36,343 posts)
37. And a majority of the vote TFG got in MI was from counties classified as urban or mostly urban
Sun Apr 3, 2022, 07:45 PM
Apr 2022

Just 25% of the vote he got in Mi came from counties classified as rural or mostly rural.

Christianity itself doesn't seem to be a key factor as it's quite clear that the great majority of Black Christians voted for Biden in 2020 and for Hillary in 2016.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
28. Evangelical voters.
Sun Apr 3, 2022, 12:21 AM
Apr 2022

Which is a subset of Christian voters. Not everyone who goes to church goes to a church that has been politicized by the right.

Mariana

(14,860 posts)
29. Christian voters.
Sun Apr 3, 2022, 12:44 AM
Apr 2022

He got 58% of Protestants, 52% of Catholics, and 61% of Mormons (if you consider them to be Christian) in 2016.

Not everyone who goes to church goes to a church that has been politicized by the right.

"The majority" literally means not everyone.



https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/11/09/how-the-faithful-voted-a-preliminary-2016-analysis/ft_16-11-09_relig_exitpoll_religrace/

Response to badhair77 (Reply #4)

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
6. Totally f**king insane.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 07:51 PM
Apr 2022

I really can't deal with this shit anymore. It's honestly feeling like The Twilight Zone these days. And the madness seems to be spreading, while nobody seems to be terribly alarmed.

Retrograde

(10,156 posts)
9. If Donnie was cheated, why were McConnell, Graham,
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 08:18 PM
Apr 2022

MT Greene, Cawford, Mattie Gaetz, and the rest of the crowd of clowns elected? They were on the same ballot as Dear Leader, so how come only he didn't get crowned?

Yeah, I know - logic doesn't enter into it.

Takket

(21,625 posts)
18. "drumpf is the current president" and "Biden destroyed the country" are two pretty
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 09:59 PM
Apr 2022

amazing things to believe at the same time.

struggle4progress

(118,345 posts)
21. Marching to Shibboleth
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 10:03 PM
Apr 2022


Men: Oh, we'll go marching, marching to Omaha,
With the Buckram and the Cord!
Women: You'll hear us "boom" our State!
Men: Ha, ha! As we cross the final ford!
Women: The flaming Ford!
Choir: Zion! Oh mighty Zion!
Your bison now are dust!
As your cornflakes rise
'Gainst the rust-red skies,
Then our blood requires us must
Go ...
Men: Marching, marching to Shibboleth,
With the Eagle and the ...
Women: The Buckram and the Cord!
Men: Sword! Praising Zion 'til her death!
Women: Ha, ha!
Men: Until we eat our last reward!
Women: The flaming Ford!
Choir: Zion! Oh righteous Zion!
There is no one to blame!
For the homespun pies
'Neath the cracking skies
Shall release the fulsome rain!

Initech

(100,102 posts)
25. He really is letting the inmates out of the asylum.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 11:32 PM
Apr 2022

Seriously, if he got reelected, it would be like when Bane took over Gotham at the end of The Dark Knight Rises.

Hotler

(11,445 posts)
35. The women behind him remind me of the manson girls at the Spahn ranch in the film
Sun Apr 3, 2022, 11:22 AM
Apr 2022

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. Not a cult at all.

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