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LetMyPeopleVote

(145,621 posts)
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 10:41 PM Apr 2022

Disney/DeSantis/Fox New fight over Don't Say Gay is going to backfire on DeSantis

This fight is going to backfire on DeSantis. I love Disney's position








Disney announced on Friday that it would pause all political donations in Florida in the wake of a controversial state bill that restricts discussion of LGBTQ issues in public schools. Over the last few weeks, the company had received criticism for remaining silent about what critics call the “don’t say gay” bill, which is expected to be signed into law by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R).

In a statement sent to employees on Friday, Disney CEO Bob Chapek also announced that the company would increase support for advocacy groups fighting similar laws elsewhere (such as one recently introduced in Georgia) and would reassess Disney’s political donation policies. Chapek apologized to the company’s workers for not making a statement sooner, writing, “You needed me to be a stronger ally in the fight for equal rights and I let you down.” In response, DeSantis criticized what he called the company’s “woke” ideology.......

“I’m glad that they have finally spoken up and I hope to see more of it in the future,” said GLAAD’s Ellis, adding that as a major company, Disney has a responsibility to stand against what she calls “corporate complacency” in the face of anti-LGBTQ legislation.

“Disney is one of the largest employers in Florida, so all eyes are on Disney to see what they are doing, and then others follow,” she said. Ellis also hopes that Disney will double down on LGBTQ storylines, which can enlighten viewers to the prejudices that allow bills like the one in Florida to pass. “People receive information differently through entertainment than they do when they’re reading a newspaper or hearing someone’s position. It has such unique power,” she said “That’s where you humanize us and use these stories to tell why this stuff is going on.”

DeSantis' feelings were hurt by this

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Disney/DeSantis/Fox New fight over Don't Say Gay is going to backfire on DeSantis (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 OP
Florida cannot afford to lose Disney. RandySF Apr 2022 #1
Their Governor said Tickle Apr 2022 #22
KUDOS TO DISNEY Skittles Apr 2022 #2
Let it be so. multigraincracker Apr 2022 #3
The right-wing's con culture comes for the Mouse LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #4
Boy Do I Wish Disney Would Buy Fox Me. Apr 2022 #6
I suspect they are about to buy Florida. hunter Apr 2022 #11
I Wish It Wasn't Either Me. Apr 2022 #16
Apple is quietly mobilizing its vast resources to lobby against anti-LGBTQ legislation proliferating LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #5
GOOD to Know! Rt💙TY! Cha Apr 2022 #21
DeathSantis has in effect declared war on Disney LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #7
he has declared war against any decent human being Skittles Apr 2022 #8
Don't fuck with the Mouse SledDriver Apr 2022 #9
I am not thrilled about Government by the Mouse, but if we... TreasonousBastard Apr 2022 #10
They are all on board for Citizens United until they're not. Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #12
OFFS sheshe2 Apr 2022 #13
I'm so happy Disney is standing up to the insanity of deathsantis Jetheels Apr 2022 #14
Disney and apple will bury deathsatan!! PortTack Apr 2022 #15
My wife and I North Shore Chicago Apr 2022 #17
Except the Keys are loyal DeSantis and Trump voters obamanut2012 Apr 2022 #24
What sense does it make to wage a war against Disney for opposing fascist policies? LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #18
The Rs must be confident that Disney will come back to the fold mcar Apr 2022 #19
Disney's definition of 'family friendly' isn't the same as Florida's LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #20
The Lincoln Project- The GOP as Disney villains: a thread LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #23

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,621 posts)
4. The right-wing's con culture comes for the Mouse
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 10:53 PM
Apr 2022

Fox and the RWNJ sites are backing DeSantis and are mad at Disney




Now, this right-wing apparatus has come for Disney. All this week, right-wing media outlets have overwhelmingly focused on the company as they try to extract a price for its call for the repeal of Florida’s “Don’t Say Gay” legislation. While conservatives dishonestly portray the law as enacting a narrow ban on teaching “sex-stuff” in kindergarten through third grade, its deliberately vague language could implicate a wide array of discussions about sexual orientation and gender identity across grades. Groups like the Trevor Project have criticized the bill for its potential to silence teachers and have a chilling effect on LGBTQ youth.

Fox mentioned “Disney” more than 350 times and in over 3 hours of coverage this week. Its commentators claimed the company is “grooming” and “sexualizing children” in order to push a “progressive LGBT agenda.” Neither the bigoted anti-LGBTQ animosity nor the strategy was particularly subtle:




The second shoe dropped Thursday when The Daily Wire, the right-wing digital, streaming, and podcasting empire fronted by Ben Shapiro, announced that it was investing $100 million over three years in animated and live-action children’s entertainment. The announcement had been moved up in response to Disney’s criticism of the “Don’t Say Gay” law, Daily Wire co-CEO Jeremy Boreing told an employee town hall.

This Shapiro idiot amuses me. He has NO produce anything yet and I remember him promising to destroy Disney+ due to that crazy Mandalorian bigoted actor.
Fox News is all in to attack Disney


The old people wo watch Fox News are not the Disney audience and so these attacks will be amuing but willn ot affect Disnye

hunter

(38,328 posts)
11. I suspect they are about to buy Florida.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 11:44 PM
Apr 2022

DeSantis will be told to move on in the nicest possible way at first, two months free rent, full return of the deposit, but he will move on. Or else.

Personally, I don't think that's the way the world should work, everything shouldn't be about the money, but when the big money says maximum expansion of the customer base including those queer folk only a tiny minority of bat shit crazy religious freaks actually hate, I say bring it on.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,621 posts)
5. Apple is quietly mobilizing its vast resources to lobby against anti-LGBTQ legislation proliferating
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 10:56 PM
Apr 2022

Apple is also getting involved on the side of Disney and the good guys



https://www.politico.com/news/2022/04/01/apple-lobbying-anti-lgbtq-laws-00022127

Apple is quietly mobilizing its vast resources to lobby against anti-LGBTQ legislation proliferating across the country — an unusual push by one of the world’s most valuable companies into a consequential political debate.

The company, whose CEO, Tim Cook, is the nation’s most visible gay executive, has deployed its lobbyists to oppose legislation that limits protections for trans and gay people or their families in Iowa, Florida, Texas and at least six other states.

Apple’s communications, government affairs and legal offices have also opposed some of the bills, working with policymakers and advocacy groups to plot out strategies and filing court briefs in cases involving LGBTQ rights. And the company is leading part of the broader corporate pushback against the bills — Apple executives have encouraged other large companies to publicly oppose the legislation, arguing that it promotes discrimination and threatens to harm LGBTQ youth.

“It’s not just states where they have a headquarters,” said Jay Brown, the senior vice president of programs, research and training at the LGBTQ rights organization Human Rights Campaign. “It’s states where their customers are, which is all across the country. It is significant in terms of staff time and resources.”

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,621 posts)
7. DeathSantis has in effect declared war on Disney
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 11:04 PM
Apr 2022





Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis on Thursday signaled support for stripping Disney of its 55-year-old special status that allows the entertainment company to operate as an independent government around its Orlando-area theme park.

It's the latest fallout in the feud between DeSantis, a Republican widely seen as a potential 2024 presidential contender, and Disney (DIS), Florida's largest private employer, over a measure that bans schools from teaching young children about sexual orientation or gender identity.

After DeSantis signed the bill into law earlier Monday, the Walt Disney Company wrote in a statement that its "goal" was to get the law repealed or defeated in the courts.

DeSantis previously said Disney "crossed the line" with that statement. On Thursday, DeSantis went further, suggesting Disney's "special privileges" could be lifted./div]
I have been to Walt Disney World a good number of times including this last December. I doubt that DeSantis will be able to do much against Disney once Disney turns the lobbying efforts on and start making donations to the right politicians. This is a fight that I doubt that DeSantis can win

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
10. I am not thrilled about Government by the Mouse, but if we...
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 11:44 PM
Apr 2022

have to have such battles, DeSantis should stand no chance.

(I hope...)

Phoenix61

(17,019 posts)
12. They are all on board for Citizens United until they're not.
Sat Apr 2, 2022, 11:51 PM
Apr 2022

DeSatan has made a huge tactical error. He has declared war on a company that employs the best marketing people in the world. I couldn’t be happier about this.

sheshe2

(83,933 posts)
13. OFFS
Sun Apr 3, 2022, 12:05 AM
Apr 2022

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Their bodies themselves. Their choice. No one and I mean no one has a right to tell you what their choice over their body should be. You can't tell them who to love and if they should raise children.

All this bullshit comes from 'the party of family values' the ones that idolize a man that loves to grab pussy and attack women.

North Shore Chicago

(3,329 posts)
17. My wife and I
Sun Apr 3, 2022, 09:41 AM
Apr 2022

will not step one foot in Florida due to their cruel republican policies. I have a dear friend who is 7th generation Key West, she really wants the Keys to break away.


Their state would be "The Conch Republic"

mcar

(42,380 posts)
19. The Rs must be confident that Disney will come back to the fold
Sun Apr 3, 2022, 01:08 PM
Apr 2022

campaign donation-wise, after this. I hope they are wrong.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,621 posts)
20. Disney's definition of 'family friendly' isn't the same as Florida's
Sun Apr 3, 2022, 07:28 PM
Apr 2022

DeSantis is a homophobic asshole who does not believe that LGBTQ children s should be consider part of a family. Luckily Disney has a very different view of what constitutes a family. The GOP are out to punish LGBTQ children to score political points with their base and Disney is not playing their game. I agree with Disney as to the definition of "family friendly"



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/30/disneys-definition-family-friendly-isnt-same-floridas/

But the title of the legislation is narrowly drawn; the empowerment it offers, focused solely on those parents worried about how interpersonal relationships and gender identity might come up in school curriculums. The bill makes the long-standing assumption that conversations about same-sex couples are necessarily conversations about sex, an assumption that doesn’t apply to non-gay couples. For that and other reasons, the bill has provoked an enormous backlash — including, now, from Disney.

One reason is simple. In part thanks to pressure from the company’s employees, Disney understands that American families don’t look the way they used to. Fox News — which has eagerly taken up DeSantis’s side in its feud with Mickey Mouse’s parent company — ran an entire story based on the complaints of two older people, one of whom said that “Walt [Disney] would be rolling over in his grave” at the company’s actions. In reality, what would probably have flummoxed the company’s founder is that the families who attend his park include parents of the same gender or different races and that more and more children these days are expressing themselves in ways that aren’t easy catalogued as “Dick” or “Jane.” That’s also not the world in which Fox’s men-on-the-street grew up......

That younger Americans are more liberal, particularly on issues related to race, gender and sexual identity, is one reason that corporations have been more willing to engage publicly on the subjects. It appears that the pressure Disney faced came from within, not from the public. But this has also increased awareness about corporate activism that often reflects positions that align with the political left, inspiring frustration and backlash from the right. A Republican governor attacking a prominent corporation in his state is also not in keeping with long-standing practice and would probably spur confusion for past Disney executives......

There’s a broader question here about why Republicans have suddenly reembraced rhetoric targeting gay Americans. The collapse of opposition to same-sex marriage a decade ago marked a shift in the national conversation about same-sex couples and gay people, but only on the surface. It seems clear that, as with the recent focus on the increased voice of non-White Americans, the rise in visibility for gay and transgender Americans has provoked a backlash. The perception is often that increased visibility for non-White or non-heterosexual people is a constraint on straight Whites or an encroachment on their power.
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