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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe media needs to show the actual videos of slaughtered civilians
not hide behind the bullshit argument "we made the editorial decision not to show it because it's horrible " as I heard on Nicole Wallace show. It's true across the media. Yet you can find the video Zelensky showed at the UN on YouTube.
Everybody needs to see that, no matter how horrible. Sanitizing the war by censoring the horrible stuff is what led to apathy about the wars in Afghanistan and elsewhere. It's repeating again.
madaboutharry
(40,220 posts)I dont know what is going on at MSNBC, but they have been showing dead bodies on CNN since early this morning.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,750 posts)Also yesterday, the Washington Post had a photo essay of Bucha.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)If the public can see the actual horrors of war, it will be massively opposed.
Censoring the media coverage worked so well for Pappy Bush's Iraq invasion, they will probably never change now.
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)They won't show the carnage from the daily MASS SHOOTINGS in this country, so why would they show the carnage from Ukraine?
Wouldn't want to damage the delicate sensitivities of squeamish Americans.
2naSalit
(86,794 posts)Images on MSNBC and CNN.
The video that was shown at the UNSC meeting today showed nothing but.
drray23
(7,637 posts)but as I watch msnbc now all images of dead bodies are blurred. They are censoring it because it's horrible and I don't think they should.
RockRaven
(15,003 posts)media never properly shows the facts of the subject they are discussing...
stopdiggin
(11,370 posts)we (and they) might disagree somewhat on just how graphic (or close up shots) things need to be. But the 'coverage' is certainly there. (and the world is appropriately sickened and appalled)
Any blurring "fakes" the news.
People react badly?
They should.
In which case "blurring" keeps them from their true, real, authentic reactions--and lets them continue to say, "Eh, not really that bad."
stopdiggin
(11,370 posts)And I'm not sure if others - both in the general public, but more specifically in print and media executives - agree. It might be possible to argue that you lose a certain amount of 'audience' - by 'pushing' toward either end of the spectrum. I guess that why we have discussions.
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And the percentage of people saying "Eh .. not that bad" - in reaction to what we're seeing today?
Awfully low - my opinion.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,438 posts)rgbecker
(4,834 posts)[link:https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5009587/user-clip-president-zelensky-ukraine-presents-video-war-crimes-security-council|
Will the delegates to the UN vote to remove Russia from the Human rights commission? From the Security Council?
Don't hold your breath.
Witness history of how these things go:
]https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/13/obituaries/ernest-medina-dies-my-lai-massacre.html
Hekate
(90,826 posts)
finding them and posting (with suitable warnings of their graphic nature) the photos, the links, the sources.
What more do you want? Whats missing, in your opinion? Lotsa gore with your dinner? The skeletal buildings and bodies scattered in the street arent enough? Are close-ups needed?
I agree with both Nicolle Wallace and Katy Tur, by the way. They both have young children, and both of them send the kids out of the room during the evening news.
Yet they are reporting honestly, interviewing war correspondents on-site who are themselves interviewing civilian victims. They show enough and they use their words to describe whats going on.
If you think thats sanitizing rather than using a certain amount of judgment, well
drray23
(7,637 posts)What I object to is the fact that on live TV it is sanitized. War is ugly and horrible. There is no way around it. Making it less shocking for people sitting in their living room is what leads to apathy. At least, that is my opinion.
bhikkhu
(10,724 posts)I'd be fine with my gruesome remains being aired publicly as long and as often as it took for something to be done about it. Being dead. of course I wouldn't care about my privacy or whatever being respected. Just absolutely whatever it took for the same to not happen to someone else.
Preventing more of that requires eyes wide open, which is going to make some people uncomfortable. So it goes.