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(17,598 posts)Ohio Joe
(21,756 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,073 posts)Kudos to her for doing the right thing.
Beetwasher.
(2,977 posts)We may disagree deeply on many issues, but at her core, she does care about the country apparently.
Irish_Dem
(47,073 posts)But maybe I am wrong. She could certainly be as you describe.
2naSalit
(86,620 posts)I have loathed her from across the state line for a loooong time. But I have to give her her due, she's true to her country first and I admire and thank her for showing it now when it really matters.
I am not so small that I condemn every R that I encounter because they're everywhere around these parts and if one is to survive, it comes down to helping each other first, then argue about politics. When I was up in the mountains, I lived in a high elevation town of about 1200 souls with up to 6 months of winter each year. We had to rely on our neighbors when the power for the town went out while it's -40F, those with wood stoves took in those without, or to pull your car out of the snowbank you just slid into, or loan you some fire wood. Hell, my car mechanic and I had some serious arguments about wildlife at the bar but I still relied on him to keep my car running and safe and could feel confident he wasn't screwing me over.
Cooperation, it's a necessary component of life.
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)But I have to say that Liz Cheney (who politically I have very little in common with) has earned my respect as a public servant. These and other comments she has made underscores her understanding of what being a 'servant' to the public actually means. She's put everything on the line to push back against the tidal wave of unAmerican actions and words spewing from her own party.
Country over party.
That's easy to say but bucking the wave is far more difficult.
So, to both Raskin and Cheney for doing the work and representing American values and democratic principles.
We need more like them on both sides of the aisle.
Poiuyt
(18,123 posts)Just the opposite of what Mitch McConnell said yesterday
patphil
(6,176 posts)Two people from different parties, with different ideologies, both publicly stating their understanding that duty to the Constitution, the nation, the rule of law, should transcend party ideology and be a minimum requirement to fill a seat in Congress.
The implication is that almost all Republicans just want to "fill the seat"'; to get a paycheck as a Senator or Congressman without the courage to actually fulfill their oath of office.
If they are willing to surrender their honor an dignity because they fear Trump's wrath, then there is no reason for them to be in the Congress.
Unfortunately, they don't even have the ethics to resign, or not seek reelection.
This is how a Democracy fails; when those who represent the will of the people surrender their will to a would-be tyrant.
CaptainTruth
(6,591 posts)KS Toronado
(17,235 posts)But instead they'd rather run her out of Congress because her Loyalty is to the Constitution
not IQ4.5. Rs prove again where their loyalty is..........FASCISM
dchill
(38,493 posts)3catwoman3
(23,987 posts)Rep Cheney just described most of the House members on her side of the aisle.
dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)3catwoman3
(23,987 posts)I watch it when I need cheering up.
dixiechiken1
(2,113 posts)I always cry when he storms into the presser and gives his speech. Always. And by the time he walks in to the House chamber to give his SOTU address and gets a standing ovation, I'm ugly crying. LOL * sigh* Great movie.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Never would I vote for her, because I don't agree with her policy positions.
However --- the above video more than enables me to see her as an honorable person. I don't see her doing the standard GOP sticht of calling Dems to be pedophiles and other vile names. She is a serious person.
I am so with you on that. Can't stand her father but a person doesn't always have to be just like their parents. She is clearly someone whose politics do not align with mine, but she is respectful and clearly cares about this country and not just her own personal self-interests.
Hotler
(11,421 posts)Stuart G
(38,427 posts)NoMoreRepugs
(9,425 posts)Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)Haven't we learned as much over the last 20 years?
I applaud him for saying it, but it falls on deaf ears.
ShazzieB
(16,399 posts)If some, or even most, of the ears they fall on don't hear them, that's unfortunate. It is NOT a reason to leave vitally important words unsaid.
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)Awesome post by Steve Schmidt also.
Jamie Raskin, it goes without saying, is one of the greatest Constitutional scholars in the House today and he has respect and friendship for Rep. Cheney.
I'm reading Jamie Raskin's book "Unthinkable" right now, and it is really a thoughtful exploration into the attempted coup of Chump and the Repukes. It is also a sincere eulogy to his son who died by suicide just before the Jan 6th. coup attempt. Sad and moving, but enlightening in many ways. Highly recommended!
dalton99a
(81,488 posts)Roc2020
(1,616 posts)To hold office as a Republican or have a chance in an election they must bow to Trump. So either they don't believe in a soul to sell, or they gladly sell it to get elected. Dark days.
spanone
(135,833 posts)PufPuf23
(8,776 posts)Still would never vote for her despite respecting and agreeing with what she has to say here.
dhol82
(9,353 posts)At least not in this current manifestation of the Grand Old Party.
Shell be lucky not to be tried for treason when they get back into power.
PufPuf23
(8,776 posts)there may be a time when there is a closer to sane GOP.
In some ways our existence (or existence of USA as we know it), may depend on a viable GOP at some point in future.
dhol82
(9,353 posts)I am a cynic. I foresee a Gilead.
PufPuf23
(8,776 posts)Had to look up Gilead. Been probably 20 years since read Handmaiden.
JI7
(89,249 posts)This RepubliQan state of affairs is not something which appeared with Trump and might not outlast him. It goes all the way back to Nixon, then Reagan, was nutrured and developed by Gingrich, and is now part of RepubliQan DNA. The hasn't the chance of the proverbial snowball in hell.
DinahMoeHum
(21,788 posts)cilla4progress
(24,733 posts)nowadays.
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,242 posts)MyMission
(1,850 posts)That's the level of trust many of us (at DU) have.
I trust them to be untrustworthy.
Public trust? They abdicated that effort long ago, but since tfg was elected they really lost whatever remained.
And the fact that now, many of us are "forced" to admire or respect Liz Cheney is a a kick in the gut. Displaying principles when that's so rare in her party has become admirable when it should be commonplace. Still, she spoke eloquently and from the heart. Surprised to find out she has one, and a spine when others in her party are spineless.
I met a tfg supporter yesterday, with t-shirt and hat and a rude loud mouth proclaiming her attitude.
Dilligaf was her favorite word. I asked what it meant, she replied "do I look like a give a fuck?" If rethug representatives are hearing from constituents like her, and say that themselves, then they really aren't public servants. They're self serving, and represent the self serving. Liz makes a good point.
Excellent input from Steve Schmidt, as usual.
Cha
(297,240 posts)Trueblue1968
(17,218 posts)SergeStorms
(19,201 posts)That right there will tell you all you'll ever need to know about the vast majority of the GOP's thoughts on god and the Constitution.
99% are liars and hypocrites, but to their gullible "base" they're as honest and trustworthy as Abe Lincoln. These people should never be allowed to hold any public office.
leftyladyfrommo
(18,868 posts)Didn't like her father. Don't agree with her politics. But I admire her guts. You know she's been under a huge amount of pressure from those old, white assholes and she is standing firm.
Go Liz
Skittles
(153,160 posts)very well stated and absolutely correct.....you must put country above party
XacerbatedDem
(511 posts)and the part I liked most, it's your "duty" once you make that pledge, which is not unlike the pledge I made when I joined the Army, to protect and defend the United States of America. It was a duty I always respected and adhered to as long as I wore the uniform, and still do to this day.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)yes indeed
niyad
(113,306 posts)Faux pas
(14,681 posts)kentuck
(111,095 posts)A rare species nowadays, especially in the Republican Party.
DeeDeeNY
(3,355 posts)Just doing her job and being true to her oath of office earns Liz Cheney our high praise and admiration.