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RANT ON! Seriously, some days I do wonder if the US would be better regionalized. There is so much (Original Post) RKP5637 Apr 2022 OP
It can't be done geographically, though, very complicated Walleye Apr 2022 #1
If all we did was to cut Mississippi loose, every measure of national progress would leap upward. Aristus Apr 2022 #2
Every region has division. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #3
West llashram Apr 2022 #4
I think we all know this is needed newdayneeded Apr 2022 #5
I vote for city states Sympthsical Apr 2022 #6
It's very hard to do because there is democrats everywhere and there is republicans everywhere. Claustrum Apr 2022 #7
We're not coming together, IMO. CrispyQ Apr 2022 #8
The problem is I_UndergroundPanther Apr 2022 #9
That was excellent! CrispyQ Apr 2022 #10
Perfect!!! n/t RKP5637 Apr 2022 #12
They tried that once. Wednesdays Apr 2022 #11
It's baked into our Constitution. hunter Apr 2022 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Apr 2022 #14
I'd like to see the NW become Cascadia. If we included a part of Canada we could get a better jalan48 Apr 2022 #15

Walleye

(31,022 posts)
1. It can't be done geographically, though, very complicated
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:58 PM
Apr 2022

I really think it would be a lot easier if we could figure someway just to agree to get along with each other

Aristus

(66,369 posts)
2. If all we did was to cut Mississippi loose, every measure of national progress would leap upward.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 12:59 PM
Apr 2022

I'm tired of dragging the substandard states around the dance floor. Let's call it a night.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
3. Every region has division.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:04 PM
Apr 2022

Because it is an Urban/Rural split.

Liberals cluster in the cities, Cons have the exurbs and rural areas. Sure, there are exceptions but that's the general pattern.

Where I live, Washington State, everywhere east of the Cascades is blood red.

newdayneeded

(1,955 posts)
5. I think we all know this is needed
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:13 PM
Apr 2022

But, would be impossible to make happen. I'm sure putin (I mean trump) who would be their leader, would invade our side of the nation within weeks of the split.

Sympthsical

(9,073 posts)
6. I vote for city states
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:13 PM
Apr 2022

With intense rivalries that go to war against each other for slights real and imagined. Newark will hold the pass as Boston burns New York to the ground.

Imagine all the Twitter content that could be generated! We could pretend we're contributing something for days.

But seriously. This regional/split stuff is so stupid. It's not so much one region vs any other. It's predominantly urban vs. rural. I live about 45 minutes outside San Francisco, and I see giant Trump signs on my way to the produce market where suburban turns rural. Go a bit deeper and farther north, and you might as well be in Appalachia.

The problem in America is the Senate which gives disproportionate weight to that urban/rural divide. That isn't changing any time soon, so. Best find ways to deal with it.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
7. It's very hard to do because there is democrats everywhere and there is republicans everywhere.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:15 PM
Apr 2022

And if we are like countries in Europe, I am sure some red states will invade nearby blue states.

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
8. We're not coming together, IMO.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 01:20 PM
Apr 2022

We're too fractured & have too little time. In 10-20 years people from the southwest will be moving north to escape draught & heat & those along the coast will have to move inland. For all the pride we take in our big brain, we seem unable to visualize the dramatic & devastating changes coming to our planet & unwilling to do anything about it. As a collective, I think we're insane.

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
10. That was excellent!
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 02:05 PM
Apr 2022

They really are more dangerous. I know some college educated people who believe the most incredible bullshit. A couple are in my family. WTF?

hunter

(38,312 posts)
13. It's baked into our Constitution.
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 02:36 PM
Apr 2022

Rural voters have disproportionately greater political clout per vote than urban voters.

It was set up this way to appease the slave states, where it's actually declared a slave is 3/5 of a person and their owner represents them.

If I was switching things up I'd change the U.S. Senate so that they served a twelve year term and their vote was proportional to the population of the state they represented.

The "founding fathers" imagined the Senate would be composed of wise older men, accomplished politicians who would put the brakes on a fickle and populist house as necessary.

What we have now is a bunch of Republican assholes who behave much like the mean girls on a middle school playground.

I don't know we could regionalize the U.S.A.. Even within California, the state I'm most familiar with, there are little islands of Blue within Red seas of "Let's Go Brandon!" flag flying coal rolling idiots, and a few islands of Red within the Blue, although these Red folks tend to vote for what they perceive as their own self-interest, be it tax cuts for the wealthy or reduced regulation of their industries.


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jalan48

(13,865 posts)
15. I'd like to see the NW become Cascadia. If we included a part of Canada we could get a better
Fri Apr 8, 2022, 03:08 PM
Apr 2022

health program as well.

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